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2010 Minnesota Twins

In each of the last two seasons, the American League Central was decided by one run in the 163rd game of the year. I don’t expect things will be quite so close this year. The Twins, who lost 1-0 to the White Sox in a one-game playoff in 2008 then beat the Tigers 6-5 in the 12th inning of Game 163 last year, are the clear class of the division, as much because of the backward steps taken by Chicago and Detroit (the Yankees’ just-completed series loss to the Tigers notwithstanding), as because of the slight improvements to the Minnesota squad.

In conjunction with their move into their new outdoor ballpark, Target Field, the Twins finally healed some of the wounds from the horribly-botched Johan Santana trade by ridding themselves of out-machine Carlos Gomez (who came over from the Mets in that deal and posted a .293 OBP in 963 plate appearances over the last two seasons) just in time for Santana’s supposed successor, lefty Francisco Liriano, to finally return to something resembling his his 2006 All-Star form three years after Tommy John surgery.

Liriano’s reemergence as the staff ace has been a key to Twins early success this year as the Twins have been the second stingiest team in the AL (albeit well behind the Rays and only slightly ahead of the Yankees[!]). While you’re still in a good mood from the mention of the Yankees right there I’ll add that another reason for that success has been Carl Pavano, who (brace yourself) leads the Twins in innings and K/BB (thanks to just seven walks in as many starts) and is second to Liriano with a 3.30 ERA.

The Twins also rival the Tigers for the junior circuit’s best bullpen. No Joe Nathan? No problem. Jon Rauch thrived as a closer for the Nationals in 2008 before being traded to Arizona, and he’s thriving in the role again for the Twins, posting a 1.93 ERA making like Pavano by posting a stellar K/BB largely due to a dearth of walks (just two in 13 appearances). That on top of typically fine work from Matt Guerrier and strong early showings from sophomore lefty Brian Duensing and veteran LOOGY Ron Mahay give the Twins an excellent end game.

At the plate, the Twins trail only the Yankees in all of baseball in on-base percentage with a team mark of .358. Credit defending AL MVP Joe Mauer (.413), major league OBP leader Justin Morneau (.486), center fielder Denard Span (.379), free agent second baseman Orlando Hudson (.369), and the man who eliminated the Twins with a solo homer in 2008 and has recently eliminated a struggling Jason Kubel from the lineup, 39-year-old Jim Thome (.384).

Unfortunately, despite finally going out and getting a qualified middle infield duo this winter, the Twins still have Nick Punto and Brendan Harris in the lineup. Harris because J.J. Hardy, the shortstop acquired from the Brewers for Gomez, was hit in the write with a pitch and is on the DL. Punto, because while they got Hudson and Hardy to fill the middle infield, they forgot to get a third baseman. Punto is now in his sixth (sixth!) season as a starter or replacement starter for the Twins. In that time, he has hit .250/.323/.328 yet the Twins still haven’t figured out that they win despite him, not because of him.

Nonetheless, with their pitchers keeping runs off the board and the bulk of their lineup keeping outs off the board, the Twins are on pace to post the second best record in franchise history and best since the original Senators went to the World Series in 1933. I don’t expect the Twins to keep up their 105-win pace (they haven’t faced the Yankees, Rays, or Rangers yet), but I do expect them to win the AL Central with ease.

Scott Baker starts tonight for the Twinks. The team’s best pitcher a year ago, he’s third in line this year despite little change in his own performance save some BABIP correction (from .277 to .311). In his last two starts, against the Tigers and Orioles, Baker has put up this line: 15 IP, 10 H, 4 R, 2 BB, 14 K. He faced the Yankees once last year and gave up five runs on eight singles, a double, and two walks in just three innings. He faces A.J. Burnett, who looks to get back on the ball after his failure at Fenway.

Francisco Cervelli starts for Jorge Posada, who gets a routine day off after two days on, which might be a pattern going forward. Brett Gardner continues to bat second (though I’m waiting for the Yankees to swap him and Jeter in the order). The lineup behind Robinson Cano is Nick Swisher, back from biceps tightness, Marcus Thames, in left against a righty, Juan Miranda at DH, and Cervelli.

Minnesota Twins

2010 Record: 22-12 (.647)
2010 Pythagorean Record: 22-12 (.647)

2009 Record: 87-76 (.534)
2009 Pythagorean Record: 86-77 (.528)

Manager: Ron Gardenhire
General Manager: Bill Smith

Home Ballpark: Target Field
Baseball-Reference Park Factors: 103/102

Who Has Replaced Whom:

  • J.J. Hardy replaces Orlando Cabrera and a lot of Brendan Harris (though Harris is filling in for the injured Hardy right now)
  • Orlando Hudson replaces Joe Crede and Carlos Gomez
  • Jim Thome is switching roles with Jason Kubel, who thus replaces Mike Redmond and Brian Buscher
  • Drew Butera is filling in for Jose Morales (DL)
  • Kevin Slowey is taking over the starts of Glen Perkins (minors)
  • Carl Pavano is taking over the starts of Anthony Swarzak, Jeff Manship (both minors) and two others
  • Francisco Liriano is reclaiming Brian Duensing’s starts
  • Jon Rauch is replacing Joe Nathan (DL)
  • Ron Mahay is replacing Bobby Keppel, Craig Breslow, and Sean Henn
  • Alex Burnett is replacing R.A. Dickey
  • Brian Duensing is taking over Luis Ayala’s innings

25-man Roster:

1B – Justin Morneau (L)
2B – Orlando Hudson (S)
SS – Brendan Harris (R)
3B – Nick Punto (S)
C – Joe Mauer (L)
RF – Michael Cuddyer (R)
CF – Denard Span (L)
LF – Delmon Young (R)
DH – Jim Thome (L)

Bench:

L – Jason Kubel (OF)
S – Matt Tolbert (IF)
S – Alexi Casilla (IF)
R – Drew Butera (C)

Rotation:

L – Francisco Liriano
R – Scott Baker
R – Nick Blackburn
R – Kevin Slowey
R – Carl Pavano

Bullpen:

R – Jon Rauch
R – Matt Guerrier
L – Jose Mijares
R – Jesse Crain
L – Ron Mahay
L – Brian Deunsing
R – Alex Burnett

15-day DL:

SS – J.J. Hardy (wrist contusion)
C – Jose Morales (wrist surgery)
RHP – Pat Neshek (right middle finger inflammation)
RHP – Clay Condrey (elbow strain)

60-day DL:

RHP – Joe Nathan (Tommy John surgery)

Typical Lineup:

L – Denard Span (CF)
S – Orlando Hudson (2B)
L – Joe Mauer (C)
L – Justin Morneau (1B)
R – Michael Cuddyer (RF)
L – Jim Thome (DH)
R – Delmon Young (LF)
R – Brendan Harris (SS)
S – Nick Punto (3B)

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1 a.O   ~  May 14, 2010 6:55 pm

Agree it makes more sense to hit Gardner first and Jeter second.

2 OldYanksFan   ~  May 14, 2010 7:05 pm

I thought so too, but thinking of the double-play situation, it may.... might.... could be right now.
Very fast man on first... Jeter up. How many DPs?
Brett up, POSADA on first. How many DPs?

Granted, having the stolen base guy bat lead off is always fun.

The way Jeter is pounding the ball into the ground, I'd rather have him lead off, until he gets his stroke back.

3 OldYanksFan   ~  May 14, 2010 7:18 pm

Quiet night on the Banter.
Pray for our Offense.

4 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 7:27 pm

AJ had better have *it* tonite ...

5 randym77   ~  May 14, 2010 7:29 pm

Looking like "not very good" AJ tonight.

6 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 7:30 pm

Not-very-good-A-Rod.

7 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 7:31 pm

good lord turn the game on and it is bases loaded no outs

8 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 7:32 pm

Urge. To. Kill. Rising.

9 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 7:32 pm

Good night, folks. I guess I'll go watch hockey. This is not going to be a fun night for baseball.

10 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 7:33 pm

So, when Meat-Tray is forced to come in and pick up the AJ disaster tonite, at least it means I get to see an Ivan Nova start on Sunday ... silver lining, right?

right???

11 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 7:34 pm

EVening, Team. Looks like we're in a tight spot.
And mk gets to say, "derisive cheer."

Pfew!

Saved the game right there.

12 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 7:34 pm

[9] haha - good for you. i was just thinking it sucks that the nba western conference don't start til monday!?! cause this doesn't look promising.

though that was a huge dp..

13 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 7:36 pm

Bravo, AJ.
Bravo.

14 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 7:37 pm

wow, pretty damn good to get out of that mess with just 1 run.

15 randym77   ~  May 14, 2010 7:37 pm

Well, that could have been a lot worse.

16 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 7:37 pm

Phew.

17 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 7:40 pm

Jesus, that was *so* exciting.
What an amazing postseason we had.

18 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 7:41 pm

That's not a fucking strike, dickwad! That was a ball for AJ!

19 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 7:43 pm

Evening folks!

20 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 7:44 pm

Cano has no sense of balance these last three weeks.

21 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 7:45 pm

God, our hitters all look aenemic.

22 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 7:46 pm

[20] And this was supposed to be The Year.

23 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 7:46 pm

Why do I think of "torn bicep" all of a sudden?

24 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 7:47 pm

Ugh.

UGLY swing by Swisher there.

This could be more problematic than originally thought.

25 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 7:47 pm

[22]

He started reading his clippings, and began overswinging .... sigh.

26 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 7:48 pm

Goddammit, Joe!

take. him. out.

27 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 7:48 pm

If I'm the Twins .... I run on Swisher every chance I get.

28 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 7:49 pm

[25] Sigh.
Oh My God, did Thames just make that play?

29 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 7:49 pm

hallelujah thames caught it.

30 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 7:49 pm

[25] Or, he does what he has always done most years ... hit well, hit poorly, hit well, hit poorly ...

31 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 7:50 pm

Nice.

32 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 7:51 pm

Nicely turned, boys.
It's really nice to have such a great infield.

33 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 7:56 pm

BoSox up 5-1 in second on Tigers ....

34 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 7:57 pm

Baker throwing quality pitches right now ..

35 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 7:59 pm

Like that one to Frankie Brains.

Damn, that was Maddux like ... and I don't mean Mike.

36 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 8:00 pm

Can't anyone here play this game?

37 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 8:01 pm

Jesus, Jeter couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat right now ...

38 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 8:03 pm

Buh bye, Swish.

39 randym77   ~  May 14, 2010 8:03 pm

Good. Swisher had no business playing tonight.

40 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 8:05 pm

[38] Sigh.

It's for the best, but ... sigh.

I have a feeling we're gonna need some 40 man roster space here soon ...

41 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 8:07 pm

[40] It's just ridiculous already. But the truth is, we have the offense to ride it out, if only they'd actually hit.

It's time for Alex to carry the team on his back for a little bit.

42 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 8:14 pm

Brett Gardner has more homers and more SBs than Grady Sizemore.

43 randym77   ~  May 14, 2010 8:15 pm

Holy crap. Brett Gardner has been positively unreal.

44 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 8:15 pm

my god where would this team be without gritner?!?!?

45 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 8:15 pm

That was kind of Damonesque ....that Gardner swing ...

46 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 8:15 pm

Jebus. He might not hit many, but that's 2 no-doubt-at-all homeruns from Gritner.

47 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 8:19 pm

i think baker is shell-shocked after gritner took him yard.

48 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 8:20 pm

C'mon Robbie!

49 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 8:21 pm

nicely done robbie
(thought the grd sucks)

50 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 8:23 pm

So I jumped in the car just in time to hear, "Gardy! Goes yardy!"

51 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 8:23 pm

I really hope they're getting an MRI on Swisher's bicep right now.

52 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 8:24 pm

[50] how lucky of you.

[51] i would think they have to.

53 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 8:26 pm

Yes, mk, the catcher is going to come out and taunt, "Dude, man, he fucking owns your ass! Remember that last homerun he hit? Fucking jacked that sucker! You better watch out, chief, cause you're in the soup with this one!"

54 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 8:27 pm

[53] he is such a clod - and someone who clearly never really played sports.

55 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 8:27 pm

[52] And then the shout out to Sweeny Murty's fiancee, who apparently came up with that gem.

56 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 8:28 pm

Jebus ... we're not going to score again here, are we?

Help me Juan Miranda, you're my only hope!

57 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 8:29 pm

[54] It's funny, too, 'cause he's the hulkiest guy in the booth. Put him next to Leiter and if you didn't know, you'd never guess which was the athlete.

58 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 8:29 pm

[56]

A holographic image of Juan Miranda is projected on the Yankee Stadium videoboard ....

(from the screenplay)

59 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 8:31 pm

nice pitch - but the triumvirate of winn, thames, and miranda doesn't bode too well.

60 OldYanksFan   ~  May 14, 2010 8:31 pm

I just want it known that on May 14th, 2010 at 8:15 pm, ms october has proclaimed the statement official.

"my god where would this team be without gritner?!?!?"

61 OldYanksFan   ~  May 14, 2010 8:32 pm

Papi and the Gnat... ouch,

62 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 8:32 pm

[58] Looks like some mid-level bureaucrat kicked in the extra 47 Million to armor plate that exhaust port, doesn't it?

63 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 8:32 pm

[57] yeah he is the hulikiest dude in the booth (i could just never get over how tiny coney looked in the booth compared with mk, singelton, leiter, o'neill) - but i bet mk was a fatty as a kid.

64 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 8:33 pm

[51] Confirmed.

65 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 8:33 pm

[51] We have a winner!

Can I take you to Vegas??????

66 OldYanksFan   ~  May 14, 2010 8:34 pm

Swish may be out now. Our OF isn't even ML level without Swish.
OK.... Salary dump for St. Louis so they can afford Albert.
Joba for Holiday... straight up.

67 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 8:35 pm

[63] I know, Coney looked like the incredible shrinking man next to mk.

68 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 8:35 pm

[60] hey, i can give him all the credit in the world. everyone else has had extended periods of shitiness - he is the only one (if you don't count frankie b) who has not had an extended slump. thank goodness.

69 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 8:36 pm

[65]

Heh ... the way things are going, I think they should have gotten one PRIOR to the game ...

In fact, considering the $1.5 billion spent on the Stadium, they should have an MRI machine (AND STAFF) in the stadium available on game days.

70 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 8:36 pm

Holy fuck.
FUck.

Did you see that?
Goddamn.

71 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 8:37 pm

Well-splayed Mauer!

72 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 8:37 pm

fucko - that mauer has such a beautiful swing.

73 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 8:38 pm

The head stays so still through the swing ..... beautiful.

74 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 8:39 pm

hmm team - with the injuries and lack of production from the big hitters - that fast start we have been waiting years for just might be headed down the toilet in may.

75 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 8:39 pm

[72] [73] Indeed. Something to behold.

How 'bout that Gardner?

76 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 8:41 pm

[74] I know. We went 11-3 and since, 11-9. Damned good thing we got off to that start. But we've still only lost two series and split one, is that right?

77 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 8:41 pm

[66] my interpretation of Mozeliak taking *that* call from Cashman.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

CLICK.

78 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 8:42 pm

[77] Ugh ... John Mozeliak has made a mess of things!

79 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 8:43 pm

Oh, Derek.
Brutal.
Just brutal.

80 OldYanksFan   ~  May 14, 2010 8:43 pm

[68] Simply set your Way-Back machine a mere 4 months. Ready? It's January. You log on to the Banter. Now imagine someone says that one day, these words.... these very words would be uttered.

“my god where would this team be without gritner?!?!?”

There goes Mr. Don't let me bat win a man on first.

81 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 8:43 pm

[78]

I fixed it

(I have that power) :-)

82 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 8:44 pm

There's another one.

83 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 8:45 pm

HOly fuck.

Wow!

84 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 8:45 pm

Speed kills.

Speed kills.

Lovely.

85 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 8:46 pm

[81] thanks!

86 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 8:46 pm

Fastest white guy in Yankee history? Faster than Dave Collins?

87 OldYanksFan   ~  May 14, 2010 8:46 pm

Gritner sets this team on fire.
I'll bet any other regular is thrown out at home on that play.

88 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 8:46 pm

Come on, Alex, settle down.

89 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 8:47 pm

End of the 3rd inning: Blue Jays 11, Rangers 9.

90 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 8:47 pm

Nice hit, anyway.

91 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 8:47 pm

Well ... lack of speed sometimes kills as well ...

92 randym77   ~  May 14, 2010 8:48 pm

Teixeira is no Gardner.

93 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 8:48 pm

Hmmm ..... Teix didn't red-ass Mauer.

94 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 8:48 pm

[87] I don't think anyone else even tries.

95 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 8:49 pm

[86] Dave Collins. God, I vaguely remember that guy. Wasn't he from Cincinnati?

96 Alex Belth   ~  May 14, 2010 8:49 pm

Don't send him, no, don't, no----

oh.

Drat.

97 OldYanksFan   ~  May 14, 2010 8:49 pm

Somehow, Seattle is up on TB, 3-1, after 5.

98 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 8:49 pm

still in sss territory, but derek's #s against rhp is stark:
ld/gb/fb:
rhp-10.3/77.0/12.6
lhp-16.3/55.8/27.9

his babip is 310 vs lhp and 262 vs rhp; woba is 341 vs lhp and 310 vs rhp.

he is just chopping the shit out of everything and mostly to the ss.

99 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 8:52 pm

[95]

Yes .... Boss George got it in his head that he wanted his own Rickey Henderson ... that the Yanks needed speed .... they got Collins from Cincy, and he bombed out in his only season with NY.

100 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 8:53 pm

That right there is why current defensive metrics are the mixed bag they are.

Bad defensive alignment, that's a hit, or a *very* hard play.

Proper defensive alignment, Cano didn't even move.

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101 Alex Belth   ~  May 14, 2010 8:53 pm

C'mon AJ one more here...

102 Alex Belth   ~  May 14, 2010 8:54 pm

Fuck Nick Punto...

103 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 8:54 pm

[102] ya mean little nicky punto :}

104 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 8:55 pm

[99] Was that '83?

105 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 8:56 pm

nicely done frankie b.

106 OldYanksFan   ~  May 14, 2010 8:56 pm

NICE THROW!

107 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 8:56 pm

Wow. That was just a gorgeous throw!

108 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 8:56 pm

BRains is awesome.
I'm sorry, but Jorgie has no business being behind the dish.
I love him and all, but it's time to start transitioning.

109 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 8:57 pm

FRANKIE!

(hey everyone)

110 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 8:58 pm
111 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 8:58 pm

Oh, bullshit, that's not a strike!

112 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 9:00 pm

oh good, maybe robbie is hitting well again

113 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:00 pm

[110] He stole 79 bases two years prior to being with the Yanks and then just 13 with us? Man, did someone bust his kneecaps?

Nice hit, Robbie.

114 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 9:01 pm

oh no, is the pu pu platter part of the lineup already?

115 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 9:02 pm

Ugh ... another awful fucking at bat for Winn.

Winn and Thames in a race to the bottom ...

116 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:04 pm

Ugh.

117 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 9:04 pm

u-g-l-y

118 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:04 pm

[115] Hehe heh ehhe. Well put.

119 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:05 pm

Oh, Christ.
Brutal.
Bru-tal!

120 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 9:05 pm

jesus christ - po couldn't have dh'd tonight?

121 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:06 pm

[120] Mystifying, no?

122 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 9:07 pm

[121] Not at all.

The result may suck, but the logic is merely unfortunate in its consequences ...

123 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:09 pm

[122] The logic being?

124 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 9:10 pm

[121] really the only way to maximize this roster right now is to catch frankie b, dh po and live with winn and thames in the corners until swish is okay.
weren't there a few minor league outfileders that had good springs - i know that means shit but see if there is a flash in the pan - cause it really isn't happening with winn or thames, and the thought of both - my god.

125 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:12 pm

[124] Where's Mary Shelley Frankenstein's Duncan these days, speaking of flashes in the pan? Or Shane Spencer, for that matter.

126 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 9:12 pm

[122] i don't think the concern of losing the dh if frankie b gets hurt and po has to cathc is strong enough to not dh po consistently right now.

127 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 9:14 pm

End of the 4th inning in Toronto:

Blue Jays 15, Rangers 10

(no lie!)

128 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:14 pm

Nice work, AJ.

129 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 9:14 pm

[123] The stated belief is that when JoPo gets tired, he's more susceptible to injury. They're just be cautious with Jorge given that he's coming off an injury.

This ain't game 163 ...

130 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 9:15 pm

[126] True, but that isn't the logic tonite.

131 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:16 pm

[126] Oh, is that all it is? Of course it's a risk worth taking, considering the alternative. I mean, if you lose the DH because Brains has to come out, you just suck it up. Doesn't seem like a reason to play all our scrubs instead.

132 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 9:17 pm

[129] [130] okay - i can definitely understand giving him some rest - and he does need it - but given the roster and injuries right now, it seems getting po in as dh and frankie b at catcher, especially while he is hitting makes sense.

133 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:17 pm

[129] Ah, is that it? Jorgie's tired? He's an old man and needs his rest? I thought DH'ing *was* rest.

Oh, fuck me.

Fuck me.

134 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 9:18 pm

oh fro fuck's sake - marte.

135 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 9:19 pm

After catching the past two days, Jorge Posada has a precautionary day off tonight. Posada said he feels fine and Joe Girardi indicated no physical problem with his regular catcher, but the Yankees are moving with caution after Posada missed a few games last week because of a calf injury.

“Last time we played him three days he had the calf issue,” Girardi said. “I just thought, until we get completely by this and I know we’re completely by this, with the travel day, I thought I’d go with Cervi.”

Cervelli has played well in Posada’s place, but Girardi gave no indication that Cervelli’s hot bat factored into the decision. Instead, he’s simply making sure his catcher doesn’t fall back onto the growing list of injured Yankees.

From Jennings at LoHud.

136 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 9:20 pm

[135] thanks - hard to argue with that.
especially after seeing swish leave a game that he perhaps should not have been in.

137 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 9:20 pm

shoulda went with Logan...

138 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:21 pm

[135] Yeah, fair enough. Still, I'd think DH'ing would be all right.

Somebody shoot me.

139 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 9:21 pm

fuckkkkkkkk

140 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 9:21 pm

christ alive - i really only like playoff marte.

141 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 9:22 pm

he's only the goddamn best fucking hitting first baseman in THE LEAGUE!

142 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 9:22 pm

;Wow ... well, *that* just upped the SUCK quotient ...

143 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:22 pm

Even mk's wondering wtf.

144 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 9:22 pm

hopefully they make up these runs - otherwise it's gonna be a tough one to lose.

145 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 9:23 pm

girardi with that 'i'm gonna get clobbered on the banter tonight' look on his mug.

146 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:23 pm

I'm glad william's not here to see this.
Unless, of course, he's at the game.

147 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:23 pm

[145] hehe heh eh eh eh eh.

148 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 9:23 pm

[146] haha - he might be. i think last year he had a friday night package.

149 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 9:24 pm

Marte continues to be, I think. my LEAST favorite Cashman decision, year-over-year.

150 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:25 pm

Why does it feel like Girardi just gift-wrapped this game away?

151 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 9:26 pm

[146] i think he's there.

fuck marte. cocksucker.

152 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 9:27 pm

fuck, bard got out of a bases loaded jam that laptop handed him...

153 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:27 pm

[151] Poor bastard. I can only imagine what he's feeling.

154 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 9:28 pm

[153] what about AJ? he's gonna load explosives in Marte's cloves..

155 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 9:29 pm

FWIW ... I would have pinch hit Posada here.

156 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:29 pm

Way to go, Brains!

157 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 9:30 pm

Bunt, Jeter, bunt!

Or hit-n-run.

158 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 9:30 pm

[154] what is the opposite of pieing someone?

159 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:30 pm

3-32, is Derek.
Damn, that's beyond abysmal.

160 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 9:30 pm

why isn't he bunting?

161 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 9:30 pm

[158] peeing in their Sunday shoes?

162 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:31 pm

Ah, thank God.

163 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 9:31 pm

haha derek needed that luck

164 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 9:31 pm

[158]

3.14ing them?

165 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 9:31 pm

OFFA THE KNEECAP. OWWWWWWWie

166 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 9:31 pm

Well, that was a "HIT" and run, can I call it or what?!?!?!

167 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 9:31 pm

[161] ha that'll work.

168 randym77   ~  May 14, 2010 9:32 pm

Why bring in a lefty to face Gardner? He hits lefties, and he always has.

169 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 9:33 pm

[164] wouldn't that be the equivalent of pieing someone?

[168] clearly gardenhire doesn't have a binder.

170 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 9:34 pm

c'mon Grit! Fuck this shit up.

171 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:34 pm

Remember when Chad Curtis got pissed at Derek for fraternizing with the enemy?

172 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 9:35 pm

damnit

173 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:35 pm

Shit. Played him perfectly.

174 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 9:36 pm

FUCK.

How about a pull bunt to the right side?

Too much to ask?

Dammit.

175 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:36 pm

Come on, Alex.
Do this thing.

176 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 9:37 pm

here comma 1-1 grady salami. On the 3rd pitch.

177 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 9:38 pm

[169]

yes .... my bad!

178 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 9:38 pm

Hey, that was a great hockey game!
I'm not a big fan, but Game 7 in the playoffs, wow.

Anyway.

Marte, huh?

179 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:39 pm

[178] Marte.

180 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 9:39 pm

[169] You're right!

181 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 9:39 pm

Maybe Gardenhire thinks this is not your father's A-Rod?

182 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:40 pm

YYAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!

183 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 9:40 pm

I meant 0-1 pitch. :)

184 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 9:40 pm

hell fucking yes - clearly gardenhire doesn't have a binder!!!!

185 randym77   ~  May 14, 2010 9:40 pm

Holy cow!

186 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 9:41 pm

Well, looks like we're not the only ones who can come up empty in bullpen roulette ...

187 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 9:41 pm

I came back just in time.

188 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 9:41 pm

[178] since you gave ZERO info, i checked it out. that is wonderful that a boston team lost a 7-game series after being up 3-0. that just rules! and i'm glad it was philly, since i have a few college friends that are flyers fans. do they advance to the stanley cup now or are there more rounds?

189 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 9:41 pm

pfft. who needs Kate Hudson?

190 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 9:42 pm

Damn, NYYfan22, that was pretty fucking good. Holy shit.

191 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 9:42 pm

[178] What's the who now?

Oh, yeah, couldn't have happened to a nicer city ...

192 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 9:42 pm

FUCK YEAH!!!

nyyfan22 - nice work! but don't steal my thunder [ya know, i am Nostralarmis 'round these parts! ; ) ]

193 Eirias   ~  May 14, 2010 9:43 pm

I know the US hasn't ratified the CTBT, but we've still signed it. We can keep testing these A-Bombs.

194 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 9:43 pm

Delmon Young is gonna get in trouble with the unwritten rules police. CF should get the ball.

195 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 9:43 pm

[189] me.

196 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 9:43 pm

[188] There's another round.
Sorry, dude, I didn't know you'd be interested.

I don't hate the Bruins like I hate the Sox (and I hate the Celtics even more). But you always like to see an epic comeback, and it's nice that now Boston fans know what it feels like...

197 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 9:43 pm

[189] ha - for all the kate hudson lovers (i'm looking at you thelarmis) she filmed a movie at my job last week - they were in the office right next to mine - but there was so much commotion the day they filmed we worked on a different floor that day - so i didn't see her.

198 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 9:44 pm

Hail Mary, full of grace.
Let it be good Joba comin into this place...

199 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:44 pm

[198] :)

200 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 9:45 pm

[196] this post season has really not gone well for us celtic haters.

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201 randym77   ~  May 14, 2010 9:46 pm

Miguel Cairo got ejected from the game tonight for griping about strike calls. Only he didn't know it, and sat down in the dugout for another half inning. Until the umpire noticed, and stopped the game until he left.

202 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 9:46 pm

[200] Argh.
Ugh.

The NBA has been nothing but pain for my entire adult life. Well, there were those nice Junes when the Lakers beat the Celtics. That was okay.

203 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 9:47 pm

[196] wait... so now people can no longer cite the '04 ALCS as the only time a professional team was up 3-0 and lost a best-of-7 series?

I like that.

204 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 9:47 pm

[197] wanna switch jobs?! ; )

[196] i do hate the celtics.

205 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 9:48 pm

[201] his BFOG+ is now league leading!

206 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 9:48 pm

Joba! Stop trying to break the catcher!

207 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 9:48 pm

[203] I believe that there were already 2 previous series in which an NHL team came back from a 3-0 series deficit to win a best-of-seven series.

208 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 9:48 pm

rays coming back. it's 4-3 M's.

209 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 9:48 pm

[203] Actually, it's happened in the NHL before.
But yes, that's the spirit of the thing. Epic.

210 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 9:49 pm

[207] you're right. i was just about to post that. have both been since '04? ah, whatever, who cares...

good for the flyers!

211 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 9:50 pm

[203]

Actually, it did happen one prior time in the NHL.

The Islanders overcame a 3-0 deficit against the Penguins,

http://www.hockey-reference.com/playoffs/NHL_1975.html

212 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:50 pm

[209] But I thought I kept hearing that it had never happened before in professional sports?

213 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 9:50 pm

[202] yeah. i don't really like the lakers much either - so the nba has not been much fun rooting wise my entire life.
i tolerated the bulls and pistons so that was about it.
i have been "cheating" on the knicks with the suns and then the cavs the last few seasons - so more disappointment.

214 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 9:50 pm

better yet, the hawkey game was in beantown! oh good.

suck it boston!

215 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 9:50 pm

Well, it ain't Joba 1.0, but Joba 3.0 is fun to watch pitch.

216 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 9:51 pm
217 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 9:51 pm

[212] I thought that too. Something about an olympic series, but never in pro sports. Guess whomever said that wasn't a hockey fan. Like me.

218 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 9:52 pm

jesus christ joba looks like a pink pig.

219 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 9:52 pm

[212]

Hockey isn't a professional sport, perhaps? :-)

220 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 9:52 pm

[212] 2x

221 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 9:52 pm

nice work sir chamberlain.

222 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:53 pm

Nasty.
Just nasty.

223 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 9:53 pm

[218] That'll do pig, that'll do!

224 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 9:53 pm

Fuck yes.
Damn, Joba.

225 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 9:53 pm

[218] sweatin like a fish!

226 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 9:53 pm

wow!

i remember this Joba. love it!

3 K's, all swinging

227 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 9:53 pm

[221] Does he promise "peace in our time"?

228 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:54 pm

[217] [219] Hehehh. Indeed.

229 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:54 pm

[223] Hah ah ah aha a hah ahh ah ah ah ah ah ah ah !!!!!!!

230 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 9:55 pm

[213] I would not like the Lakers at all, except that they were preventing the Celtics from winning championships in the 80s. So, now I love Magic, James, and even Kareem.

231 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 9:55 pm

FUCK OFF KAY. what is this, american gotdamned idol?

232 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 9:55 pm

i had forgotten that alex's hr would move him past frank robinson (as per chad at lohud).
pretty cool that he is continuing to pass so many names.

233 OldYanksFan   ~  May 14, 2010 9:55 pm

Joba: 16.2 IP, 5 BB, 21 K, 1.02, 2.16 ERA

234 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 9:56 pm

old man moyer in line for yet another win.

i hope braden gets destroyed by the halos later tonight...

235 randym77   ~  May 14, 2010 9:57 pm

[223] Comment of the night!

236 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 9:57 pm

[232] yes! that''s 587 homers. i hope he passes Sosa this season, too...

237 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 9:57 pm

[227] he does with that slider.

[230] yeah - it's one of those lesser of 2 evils things - and they were a fun team to watch.

238 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:58 pm

He was safe.

239 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 9:58 pm

ding dong... you're out.

240 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 9:58 pm

From ESPN News:

Stat of the night: No NHL team has ever come back from a 3-0 series deficit AND a 3-0 deficit in a Game 7. #sportshistory

241 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 9:59 pm

Ye Olde Fallacy of the Predetermined Outcome!

242 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 9:59 pm

oh yes - we got a "fallacy of the pre-determined outcome"

243 patrick b   ~  May 14, 2010 9:59 pm

I'm guessing Alex confused Orlando for Kate. Just another "me-first, selfish" grand-slam.

244 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 9:59 pm

[240] wait... you mean they were down 3 goals to none in tonight's game??

245 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 10:00 pm

[244]

yes!

246 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 10:01 pm

[244] [245] I told you, it was a hell of a game.
Its not like baseball. EVERY PLAYER IN THE GAME HAS A STICK.

247 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 10:01 pm

[245] holy chit!

btw, I don't dislike hockey... I LOVE going to hockey games. I just lose the puck too much when I try to watch it on TV. Course, now I have an HDTV, so it might be easier.

248 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 10:03 pm

that was weird - seeing "A Burnett" pitching to Frankie Brains!

249 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 10:03 pm

[247] It is!
I know, I always used to have that problem. But my big screen and HD makes it much easier.

250 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 10:04 pm

braves finally got through to ipk here in the atl. ian out after 6.1 innings of 1-run (so far) ball...

251 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 10:04 pm

Someone make them stop that nonsense.

252 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 10:05 pm

more asshats doing the wave.

253 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 10:05 pm

Doing the Wave in the Legends Seats should be cause for ejection from the Stadium.

254 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 10:05 pm

wow, another triple for frankie b.

255 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 10:05 pm

Brains, baby, Brains.

256 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 10:06 pm

TRIPLE!

HE WILL EAT YOUR CHILDREN!

257 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 10:06 pm

We have the two best little guys ever. Grittner and the BRains. What'd we do without them?

258 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 10:06 pm

Let's not trade Frankie after all.

259 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 10:06 pm

BRAINS!!!

i love that kid. his 2nd triple!

260 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 10:07 pm

[253] Agreed. Deportation, even, back to midwest or whencesoe'r they're in town from.

261 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 10:07 pm

[253] Shouldn't those Miller High Life guys come and take something away from those dingbats?

262 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 10:07 pm

i hope i get to see a highlight of this one. i couldn't find the other triple online...

263 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 10:08 pm

That was one of the best swings I've seen from Derek in a long time.

264 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 10:08 pm

Just in case you are wondering ...

Most triples by a Yankee catcher in a season (10) ... Bill Dickey 1931

265 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 10:09 pm

So, no Mo?

266 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 10:09 pm

damn - his foul ball swings were much better than the one he connected on.

267 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 10:09 pm

[261]

Well-played Mauer!

268 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 10:09 pm

[265] mk is trying to make sense of it all now.

269 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 10:10 pm

[265] naaa, he'll bring out Robbie Robertson.

270 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 10:11 pm

looks like Fuckett will be healthy enough to start against us on Tuesday. i hope we feast off him again...

271 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 10:11 pm

Don't you dry hump Mo now, Coffee Joe, you hear me?

272 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 10:12 pm

rays lost

273 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 10:12 pm

Rays lost to Mariners

274 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 10:12 pm

[272] YAY!

275 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 10:12 pm

Can someone tell me how many pitches Gardner's seeing per ab?

276 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 10:12 pm

[270] Yeah. I don't believe it. I think whatever's wrong with him is worse than they're letting on.

[269] Oh, for the Last Waltz, huh?

277 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 10:13 pm

that dorky kid doesn't go with that mom in the pre-owned bmw commercial.

278 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 10:14 pm

[277]

GMTA

I think he is too old, also.

279 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 10:14 pm

it's Mo...

280 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 10:15 pm

[278] yeah - also way too old

281 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 10:15 pm

[271] Damn straight you'd best be bringing him in for this inning after getting him up twice!

282 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 10:16 pm

nicely done robbie

283 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 10:16 pm

Fucking hell.
Jesus.
My God.

284 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 10:16 pm

I wonder ... could Cano handle shortstop if/when ...

285 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 10:16 pm

mo is looking sharp as hell.

286 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 10:17 pm

Weeping [275], it's 4.60 pitches per plate appearance this year.

287 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 10:18 pm

[284] cano will be 67 years old when you know who finally concedes shortstop.

288 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 10:18 pm

my son just lost his Yankee-watching privileges tamara. day game, too. That hurts.

289 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 10:19 pm

Mariano Rivera, ladies and gentlemen.

It's nice to win a baseball game.

290 cult of basebaal   ~  May 14, 2010 10:19 pm

Praise be to Mo.

291 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 10:19 pm

the best ever vs. the best. best ever wins!

11 pitches!

praise. all of it. to MO!!!

292 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 10:20 pm

easy peasy 1,2,3

way to go alex, frankie, gritner, cano - nice to see some score trucking

293 Diane Firstman   ~  May 14, 2010 10:20 pm

Off to Phillies/Brewers on MLBN.

294 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 10:20 pm

Thanks be to Mo.

At around 7:30 it was shaping up to be a crappy sports night.
Worked out real nice.

295 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 10:20 pm

[286] Cheers!

296 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 10:20 pm

gardenhire'll be wandering around EWR with a fistfull of slim jims after walking Tex to get to Arod. dope.

297 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 10:21 pm

[294] funny how that shapes up - now we need the magic to keep steamrolling come sunday.

298 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 10:21 pm

boBBy!!!! double with 2 outs in the 1st - fuck you braden, haha!!!

299 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 10:22 pm

[296] That was awesome.
I guess the idea was to set up the DP, huh? (I returned just after that.) I hate that IBB when we do it.
Gardenhire will convince himself it was the right move and just didn't pan out. He's terrible. He's a terrible, horribly over-rated manager.

300 ms october   ~  May 14, 2010 10:23 pm

texas and toronto aren't interested in run prevention tonight.

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301 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 10:24 pm

[286] And NJ's at 4.37. If he can keep this up, he belongs permanently in the #2 hole. I love his ability to foul off pitch after pitch after pitch. It's good to be able to do that before Teix and Alex. I really hope he can stay like this all year. With his speed and his short swing, there's no apparent reason he shouldn't be able to.

302 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 10:27 pm

[301] Yeah, and that kind of thing kills me when other teams do it to Phil Hughes. That's how I know it must be a great talent that NJ has. (And Brett, too.)

303 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 10:28 pm

And speaking of Phil Hughes, we all do know that eventually he's going to have a bad start, right? And nobody's going to be crushed, right?

I am. I know it happens to everyone, and I can handle it when CC has a lousy start. But it's going to make me very unhappy when Phil has his first crappy start of the season. I know it's going to happen, and I'm going to be miserable.

304 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 10:30 pm

[303] :)
We'll be here for you when it does.

305 Hank Waddles   ~  May 14, 2010 10:32 pm

How exactly did Marte get the win here? Wasn't he the pitcher of record? If he finished the top of the 7th and the Yanks took the lead in the bottom half, that makes him the winner. Unless they've changed the rule, the official scorer doesn't get to choose, no matter what Michael Kay might think. Am I wrong?

306 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 10:33 pm

[303] yeah, but you went to the 1978 tie-breaker game! DEEP TO LEFT!

307 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 10:35 pm

[305] dude, I'm right there with you. I don't get it!

308 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 10:37 pm

[305] You are indeed wrong.
The official scorer may always rule that the reliever who was of record when the winning run was scored, was "ineffective". Then he doesn't get the W.
That's what the scorer did, and so Joba gets the win.

309 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 10:38 pm

[306] Yes, and I'll always have Paris.

But I'll still be upset when Hughes gives up five runs in four innings and Mitre has to take over.

310 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 10:39 pm

[305] Well f me sideways. Found this on wikipedia:

The decisions are awarded by the official scorer of the game in accordance with the league's rules.

source

311 Hank Waddles   ~  May 14, 2010 10:41 pm

[308] Thanks for the explanation. I know I've heard MK say just that on the air, but I always just assumed he didn't know what he was talking about.

312 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 10:43 pm

For the record, it's Rule 10.17:

(b) If the pitcher whose team assumes a lead while such pitcher is in the game, or during the inning on offense in which such pitcher is removed from the game, and does not relinquish such lead, is a starting pitcher who has not completed

(1) five innings of a game that lasts six or more innings on defense, or
(2) four innings of a game that lasts five innings on defense,

then the official scorer shall credit as the winning pitcher the relief pitcher, if there is only one relief pitcher, or the relief pitcher who, in the official scorer’s judgment was the most effective, if there is more than one relief pitcher.

(c) The official scorer shall not credit as the winning pitcher a relief pitcher who is ineffective in a brief appearance, when at least one succeeding relief pitcher pitches effectively in helping his team maintain its lead. In such a case, the official scorer shall credit as the winning pitcher the succeeding relief pitcher who was most effective, in the judgment of the official scorer.

313 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 14, 2010 10:44 pm

[311] A perfectly understandable assumption, to be sure.

314 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 10:44 pm

[311] Yes, I can see how MK saying something would make you think the opposite is likely to be true! Good general principle, just happened to fail in this case. Blind squirrel, etc.

315 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 10:50 pm

braden w/ 3 more shutout, no walk innings. boBBy hit a double, so there's a hit...

316 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 10:55 pm

[315] Hey, look, boBBy took a dump on the mound right behind Braden!

317 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 10:58 pm

[316] behind the mound is fine. dump. behind. P.U.

hinske doing well for the bravos.

melky w/ a chance to tie/win the game here. he's below the mendoza line. nope, walking him. bases now loaded...

braden still throwing a shutout. 3.2 innings

318 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 11:02 pm

exciting walkoff win for the bravos. good for them!

the IBB to load the bases comes back to strike the opposing manager in the tuchus once again...

319 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 11:03 pm

good news via LoHud:

Swish is OK! mri is negative. he's day to day, w/ a slight strain of the left bicep.

me - my biceps are the same size as my wrists and i can easily overlap my thumb and index finger around my wrist! ; )

320 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 11:04 pm

[318] Yep. I feel vindicated.
Why walk Melk to get to Prado, anyway? Again, just to set up the DP or force at home, I guess. But it puts so much pressure on the pitcher not to walk in the tying run.

321 NYYfan22   ~  May 14, 2010 11:04 pm

in Joba's postgame interview with Kim Jones, he said "you don't want to sleep a waking dog..."

Also, he might be on speed.

322 Chyll Will   ~  May 14, 2010 11:04 pm

[316] "How he loves the little birdies that he gives them this to perch on..."

323 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 11:05 pm

[319] We must be related. I'm not exactly a power hitter, either.

But it's "biceps". There is no such word as "bicep".

324 Chyll Will   ~  May 14, 2010 11:07 pm

[321] Sounds like sage advice!

325 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 11:09 pm

[322] "Dallas, you can go ahead and step right over my mound, if you want to."

326 Chyll Will   ~  May 14, 2010 11:10 pm

[323] If you look in the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, you'll note that the word "bicep" was just recently added to the lexicon as late as five minutes ago, followed by the footnote "Brett Gardner was here"...

327 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 11:13 pm

[321] i would screw up my idioms if i were talking to kim jones, too!

no speed for me, but i'm about to get into a 6-pack of sierra! : )

dallas gives up a 2nd hit. and now a 3rd! the runs can't be far off...

[323] skinny, huh? right on. i have a small frame. hopefully you're tanner than me. it wouldn't be hard. i'm about a half-step above albino... : ~

328 RIYank   ~  May 14, 2010 11:14 pm

[326] Wow! He darted in, scribbled it, and then took the subway home, all before the eyes of observers could focus.

Chad Jennings says, by the way, that although Brett looks tiny and gritty in pinstriped context, if you saw him on the subway you'd think, "Dude is ripped."

329 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 11:19 pm

[326] well, you're partially right...

- AND -

[323] you're partially wrong - if you go to dictionary.com and press in "bicep", it comes up. it's a word. i guess...

- BUT -

in my hard copy dictionary, it's only "biceps" or even "bicepses", which seems weird.

word press, says bicep is indeed a word, but bicepses is not.

hmm...

330 Chyll Will   ~  May 14, 2010 11:19 pm

[325] Plant some tradescantia fluminensis around that mound and we'll have a sparkler of a ballgame there...

331 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 11:22 pm

[320] exactly - set up a dp and force at every base. but melky has been awful and so has qualls. he shoulda pitched to melk.

[328] yeah, gritner would prolly dwarf me. we're the same height, but he's got 40 lbs on me. then again, i have A LOT more hair than he does! : )

332 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 11:26 pm

old man moyer wins again! that's 262 in his career...

333 Chyll Will   ~  May 14, 2010 11:27 pm

[328] Actually, the new editions came out about two minutes later...

[329] One says that bicep is not a word, but bicepses is. Another says bicep is a word, but bicepses isn't. Does that mean the root is contingent on a biceptual relationship?

334 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 11:32 pm

and braden finally gives up a freaking walk. it took boBBy, of course, to draw it. now...SCORE of this chump! will ya, please?!

(i hate rooting for the halos, i just really don't like braden...)

335 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 11:38 pm

wahoo!!! kendry komes thru. 1-0.

336 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 11:40 pm

MATSUI!!! 3-run job. 4-0. now, that's more like it.

stick it, dallas!

337 patrick b   ~  May 14, 2010 11:49 pm

I'm glad I'm not the only sick hater who is staying up to watch old Dallas suck it. God, he really has nothing, he makes Jon Lieber look like Nolan Ryan. But he's not afraid of contact and he doesn't walk anybody and against certain teams in certain parks that can be enough. I was really hoping that Hunter would fly out and run across the mound but a Matsui homer is pretty great too.

338 thelarmis   ~  May 14, 2010 11:52 pm

[337] and a leadoff double in the 7th! i hope another run gets scratched across right now...

yeah, but lieber was, by all accounts, a really good guy! dallas is a fucking cocksucker. i think it'd be great if every runner started running across "his mound". that would rock!

ah damn, runner out at home. oh well. hopefully dallas will be saddled with a big, fat LOSS!

but, i'm out...

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