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Boston Red Sox IV: Kick ‘Em While They’re Down

The Yankees and Red Sox last met for a two-game set in the Bronx in mid-May. At the time, the big story surrounding the Red Sox was their poor start. In splitting those two games, the Sox held tight at .500. Almost immediately after, they finally found their groove. Including that last win against the Yankees, the Red Sox went 30-12 coming out of that series. That’s a blistering .714 pace that brought them within a half-game of the first place Bombers on July 3. Since then, however . . . meh, not so much. The Sox have gone 13-15 since that high-water mark, and seem to be rotating through the disabled list more often than they’re rotating through their lineup.

You might have heard that the Red Sox have been dealing with some injuries this season. Prior to returning Wednesday night, Jacoby Ellsbury had played just nine games all year due to various problems related to broken ribs suffered in an April collision with Adrian Beltre. He’s back, but he might have been the worst hitter in their opening day lineup and was moved to left field this spring because the Red Sox had major concerns about his defense in center. However, Mike Cameron, his intended replacement in center, is back on the DL for the second time this season with an abdominal strain, making Ellsbury the team’s center fielder and leadoff hitter, which may or may not be any better than having Ellsbury back on the DL. That also leaves J.D. Drew, who routinely misses games with a strained this and a sore that, as the only Boston outfielder having a “healthy” season.

Among those who have joined Ellsbury on the DL this season were Dustin Pedroia and Jason Varitek (both still out with broken feet), Victor Martinez (recently returned), Kevin Youkilis (more than countering Martinez’s return by hitting the DL the day before Cameron with a thumb injury that will require season-ending surgery), Daisuke Matsuzaka (of course), Josh Beckett and Clay Buchholz (both recently returned), and Manny Delcarmen (returned, but to low-leverage innings). Did I miss anyone? Boof Bonser doesn’t count, and I’m not sure Mike Lowell does either, though he’s suddenly become a very important player in the wake of Youkilis’s injury.

The good news for Boston fans is that, assuming Jon Lester’s Wednesday night leg cramp isn’t anything, the rotation is back at full strength. Buchholz and Beckett, who start tonight and Sunday, respectively, each enter this series coming off a pair of quality starts. Less encouraging has been the fact that Lester, who pitches Monday, has been off his game for four straight outings, and John Lackey, who faces CC Sabathia on Saturday, has been little more than a league-average-innings eater in his first season with the team. The Sox’s bullpen has been as problematic as the Yankees’, and the pitching staff as a whole, which has surely been undermined by the drop in the quality of team defense resulting from the many injuries to the starting lineup, something unlikely to be helped by Ellsbury’s return, has been below average in keeping runs off the board.

Whatever winning the Red Sox have been doing this season has been due to a few stretches of sharp starting pitching and their lineup, which has been buoyed by David Ortiz’s rejuvination and by a fantastic season by Adrian Beltre, but Youkilis has been the team’s best hitter, and Pedroia was in the top four, and without those two bats, this is a very different ballclub.

The best-case scenario for the Red Sox this weekend is to sweep a four game set in the Bronx and pull within two games of the Yankees for the Wild Card. I don’t see that happening, though the Yankees would be advised to win at least one of the first two as the pitching matchups become more favorable for Boston as the series progresses. The Sox will have 50 games left after this series, enough to overcome any deficit, but if the Yankees simply split, they will have robbed the Sox of a prime opportunity to make up ground and will take control of their rival’s fate by having a six-game lead over the Sox with just six head-to-head games left to play. All of that may take the edge of this series, but it’s worth noting that beating the Rays does the Yankees little good as both teams are likely to make the postseason. It’s burying the second place team in the Wild Card chase that will secure the Yankees’ playoff berth, and that second-place team is the Boston Red Sox.

Boston Red Sox

2010 Record: 61-47 (.565)
2010 Pythagorean Record: 60-48 (.556)

Manager: Terry Francona
General Manager: Theo Epstein

Home Ballpark: Fenway Park

Bill James Park Indexes (2007-2009):
LH Avg-108, LH HR-85
RH Avg-107, RH HR-95

Who has replaced whom:

  • Ryan Kalish (minors) has replaced Kevin Youkilis (DL)
  • Jed Lowrie (DL) has replaced Dustin Pedroia (DL)
  • Jacoby Ellsbury (DL) has replaced Jeremy Hermida
  • Eric Patterson has replaced Jonathan Van Every (minors)
  • Kevin Cash has replaced Jason Varitek (DL)
  • Scott Atchison and Dustin Richardson (both minors) have replaced Ramon S. Ramirez and Scott Schoeneweis

25-man Roster:

1B – Mike Lowell (R)
2B – Jed Lowrie (S)
SS – Marco Scutaro (R)
3B – Adrian Beltre (R)
C – Victor Martinez (S)
RF – J.D. Drew (L)
CF – Jacoby Ellsbury (L)
LF – Ryan Kalish (L)
DH – David Ortiz (L)

Bench:

R – Bill Hall (UT)
R – Darnell McDonald (CF)
L – Eric Patterson (OF)
R – Kevin Cash (C)

Rotation:

R – Josh Beckett
L – Jon Lester
R – Daisuke Matsuzaka
R – Clay Buchholz
R – John Lackey

Bullpen:

R – Jon Papelbon
R – Daniel Bard
L – Hideki Okajima
R – Manny Delcarmen
L- Dustin Richardson
R – Scott Atchison
R – Tim Wakefield

15-day DL:

1B – Kevin Youkilis (right thumb)
2B – Dustin Pedroia (broken left foot)
CF – Mike Cameron (abdominal strain)
C – Jason Varitek (broken right foot)

60-day DL:

RHP – Junichi Tazawa (Tommy John surgery)

Typical Lineup:

L – Jacoby Ellsbury (CF)
R – Marco Scutaro (SS)
S – Victor Martinez (C)
L – David Ortiz (DH)
R – Adrian Beltre (3B)
L – J.D. Drew (RF)
R – Mike Lowell (1B)
L – Ryan Kalish (LF)
S – Jed Lowrie (S)

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1 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 6:48 pm

Wow, the game is on TV here again tonight. I'm living the high life.

2 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 6:50 pm

It's a real shame how bad the Sox have been banged up this year.
Wa-waaaaa. This series just does not have the juice as last year. For better or for worse. But if Javy spits the bit and AJ does his bedshitting I'll be yellin' down a well. Go Yankees!

3 Evil Empire   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:10 pm

This is the 31st anniversary of the night Bobby Murcer drove in 5 runs to beat the Orioles after Thurman Munson's funeral, still my favorite game ever played.

Let's go Yank-ees, for Thurman!

4 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:12 pm

[1] Keep an eye out for any beer delivery guys who may take away your high life.

5 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:14 pm

Unfuckingbelievable. not.

6 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:15 pm

Papi's back.

7 OldYanksFan   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:18 pm

[2] Actually, looking at the matchups, tomorrow is the only day we have an advantage. A split would be just dandy with me, which probably means winning the first 2.

Considering their injuries, the Sox have played VERY well... whereas I think the Yankees have played below their talent, mainly due to ARod, Jeter, AJ, and early Teix.

Waddayasay? Is a split the best we can reasonable expect?

8 OldYanksFan   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:21 pm

The strategy here MUST be to look for walks. Patience is the keyword for tonight.

Jeter getting a second wind?

9 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:21 pm

[7] I'm down with a split.
If they ever make a movie and they need to cast a tall, laptop stealing hobbit, Bucholz is their man.

10 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:21 pm

Nice liner for Jeter

11 Evil Empire   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:22 pm

The captain!

Wow I love these mlb announcers -- costas and kaat.

12 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:23 pm

Surprised Jeter isn't standing on 2nd by now

13 OldYanksFan   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:24 pm

Nice. A cheapie.

14 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:24 pm

Whoo-hooo. Another 2 run job. Ya' just can't predict.. : )

15 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:24 pm

A Teix message to the bleachers... :P

16 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:24 pm

Teix > Papi.

17 OldYanksFan   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:25 pm

4th game in a row with a 2 run HR inthe first, Bad omen?

18 Evil Empire   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:25 pm

No splits. We need 3 out of 4 to keep Tampa at bay (pun intended). Boston has pitching and some good hitters but they're a shadow. Hell this is a home series after all. Take 3 of 4. Fuck splitting.

19 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:25 pm

[11] We have Singleton, Leiter and Kay on commentary here...

And another game where the Yanks score in the 1st inning.

20 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:25 pm

Oh, and Teixeira asked me to apologize to OYF [8] for his impatience.

21 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:26 pm

[18] If you're going to say fuck splitting at least ask for a sweep. : )

22 Alex Belth   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:31 pm

Christ, Javy is a fucking chump.

23 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:31 pm

17) first inning HR jinx is over...first inning HR jinx is over...I believe...first inning HR jinx is over...

24 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:31 pm

Spluck fitting.
Spuck flitting.
Fluck spitting.

25 Alex Belth   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:32 pm

I'm in just no mood and I've got a bad feeling about this stupid weekend so I'm not in my right mind right now.

How do you throw a cookie to Ortiz? And did you see how long it took that fat bastid to round the bases?

26 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:32 pm

19) I'm getting the NESN feed. Whatever...at least they're not too bad, especially with no Eck.

27 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:33 pm

6) What a testament to hard work, determination and a positive outlook on life. God bless him.

28 Evil Empire   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:34 pm

[21] sweeps in 4 game sets are rare. I won't mind winning 3 of 4.

29 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:34 pm

boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

30 Alex Belth   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:34 pm

Man, it's amazing Lowell is just a few months older than Jeter. He looks older than George Clooney. (I actually saw Lowell in person once and he is exceedingly handsome and looks more like Clooney in real life than he does on TV with a helmet and uniform on...

31 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:34 pm

Saw that play developing soon as both of them congregated...

32 Alex Belth   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:34 pm

FUCKING CHRIST. Javy, you are a fucking idiot.

33 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:35 pm

WE WANT POSADA...

34 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:35 pm

Cervelli just dropped that on his own, without help from Vasquez. Now, imagine if that had been Po...

35 Alex Belth   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:36 pm

Now, get out of this, you dipshit.

36 Alex Belth   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:37 pm

3-0, genius.

37 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:38 pm

[34] Still, it would've been nice if Vazquez either called for the ball, or spun away.

38 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:39 pm

36) remember, it's all a chess match, and Javy is four moves ahead of the likes of you and me.

39 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:40 pm

Lowrie getting some good swings

40 Alex Belth   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:40 pm

Jed Lowrie, ladies and gentlemen.

41 Alex Belth   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:41 pm

This. Does. Not. Feel. Good...

42 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:41 pm

I called used to call off my catchers all the time to catch pop ups when I pitched. I use to tell my coaches I trusted myself more than the catcher. So why the hell shouldn't I catch it. This whole nonsense of the pitcher being specator on those is fucking infuritating.

43 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:43 pm

Fucking Javy.

44 Alex Belth   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:43 pm

fucking piece of shit.

45 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:43 pm

This is gonna be a long one tonight.

46 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:43 pm

Atta boy, Javy! You the man. Ozzie is smiling somewhere.

47 Evil Empire   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:43 pm

Fucking cervilli

48 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:43 pm

[42] I let the catcher catch it, unless it was like a humpbacked liner to the mound. I'm exerting myself enough on the mound :)

49 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:43 pm

That's the first time Jacoby has been on base since... well, for months.

50 Alex Belth   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:44 pm

Getting late early for Jav.

51 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:45 pm

49) remember, in chess sometimes you sacrifice a piece to make a big move. Javy is just toyomg with them now.

52 Alex Belth   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:45 pm

bases clearing double...

53 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:45 pm

Eat shit, Javy.

54 Evil Empire   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:45 pm

How do you walk lowrie And the grossly overrated jacoby Ellsbury

55 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:45 pm

[51] I don't know, the queen sacrifice may not be called for here.

56 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:45 pm

You have got to be kidding me.

57 Alex Belth   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:45 pm

fucking jagoff

58 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:46 pm

Javy keeps missing his spots, and now this is shaping up to be one of "those" games

59 Alex Belth   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:46 pm

I guess I was wrong.

60 OldYanksFan   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:46 pm

I'm sick to my stomach

61 Alex Belth   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:46 pm

So? To make this shit sammich complete, whadda ya say a grand slam?

62 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:47 pm

Martinez is going to hit a granny.

63 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:47 pm

Oh, brilliant. A pitcher who can't throw strikes, so let's load the bases to face V-Mart.

64 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:47 pm

Seriously, someone explain that IBB to me. It's just fucking stupid.

65 patrick b   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:48 pm

I really feel like taking a two-hour walk right now. I'd probably get back just in time for the top othe 6th. This is just crap baseball right now -- giving the Redsox an error and two walks.

66 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:48 pm

(I"m watching NESN, by the way.)

67 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:48 pm

[63] Understandable, since Ortiz is liable to park one again

68 Evil Empire   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:49 pm

This inning is a Fucking abortion.

Maybe laptop boy won't be sharp after sitting for an hour.
Javy will wall Vmart.

69 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:49 pm

[64] Announcers mentioned that V-Mart has struggled against Vazquez. Who is now getting squeezed

70 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:49 pm

[67] And Martinez is chopped liver?

71 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:50 pm

66) they've been fairly tolerable, all things considered.

72 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:50 pm

Whew.

73 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:50 pm

Fuck you, Javy. Oy and Bollocks!
Love your Tim Redding impression.

74 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:51 pm

Girardi is a genius.

[71] They're fine. I like them. It's not Remy and Orsillo that I'm having a problem with in this game...

75 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:51 pm

Javy is crapping the bed for sure...but am I the only one who is fed up with the Frankie Cervelli experience?

76 Alex Belth   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:54 pm

Hey, Curtis, you are cute and all, and I like you just fine, but how about not being a useless automatic fucking out, huh?

77 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:54 pm

[70] Compared to Ortiz? Certainly.

78 Alex Belth   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:55 pm

Hey Curtis, you running?

79 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:56 pm

Come on Frankie, make me dislike you less.

80 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:56 pm

Hurray. The pony sticks around to cheerlead. What a guy!

81 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:56 pm

79) OK, that's a start!

82 Alex Belth   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:56 pm

Luis Sojo cheap shit motherfucker.

83 Evil Empire   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:57 pm

How bout we pinch run for Frankie here?

84 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:57 pm

83) with Posada? Hahahahahah...

85 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:57 pm

[77] Okay, if you say so.
I think that move backfires a lot more often than it succeeds. You trust Vazquez not to walk V-Mart there? If he goes to 3-1, Martinez knows the pitch has to be a strike.
Terrible choice; it worked out okay this time.

86 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:58 pm

[78] Hopefully, Frankie is

87 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:59 pm

Larry David's there. I wonder if he's with a prostitute.

88 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:59 pm

Gardner had bettern be fucking running.

89 Evil Empire   ~  Aug 6, 2010 7:59 pm

[84] I'm kinda kidding but kinda not.

90 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:00 pm

[85] You trust Ortiz not to go deep, or hit one hard somewhere?

91 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:00 pm

I'd send Brett on the 1-0 pitch.

92 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:01 pm

[90] I think a walk is much, much more likely than a home run, yeah. Much.

93 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:01 pm

Good thing Brett stole. God fucking bless.

94 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:03 pm

I don't know. When I was younger, it was pretty much automatic that if the nine hitter got on with two outs and had any speed, he would run...it probably didn't make a difference there, but I don't know why Gardner was not running on first move, or at least at 1-0.

95 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:04 pm

Nice.

96 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:04 pm

Giambiesque.

97 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:05 pm

How bad are those folks to miss the the ball by that much? boooooooo : )

98 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:06 pm

[92] Vs RHP

VM: .232/.297/.343(.640)
DO: .279/.407/.642(1.049)

Add in that Martinez is a couple of weeks removed from injury

99 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:07 pm

[98] Hm, those are pretty big spilts. That does make it more reasonable, I admit.

100 OldYanksFan   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:08 pm

[74] I think they are the best in the game.... except Vin and Uecker of course.

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101 Evil Empire   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:09 pm

[94] agreed. Victor Martinez is a lousy catcher and couldn't throw out Gardy.

102 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:10 pm

I think the 3B ump rang him up just to speed the damn game up.

103 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:10 pm

Okay, better Javy.
Now we need a run. Crooked inning better, but a run will satisfy me.

104 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:12 pm

[94] Yep, at the very least, if he's thrown out, Jeter leads off the next inning.

105 Alex Belth   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:15 pm

Now, Buch settling in...great.

106 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:15 pm

Quickly and quietly...

107 Alex Belth   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:15 pm

Oooh, the meat of the order looking scary there.

108 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:16 pm

[105] You think? Two balls hit pretty hard there. He looks shaky to me.

109 OldYanksFan   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:16 pm

The truth is this team needs ARod to hit. Jeter and our DH could help, but I always felt in the game when ARod was hitting. Now, I have little faith in our O.

110 OldYanksFan   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:20 pm

Wow... Eucker has a career batting average of .200
Defensive specialist I guess.
The game has changed just bit.
Brains was born 40 years too late.

111 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:20 pm

109) they could use someone to hit. Cervelli and Granderson have been a toilet combined, Jeter's recently been hot, but Gardner has been scuffling. ARod has been slumping. Berkman has yet to hit. That's a lot of gaps in the lineup.

112 OldYanksFan   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:21 pm

JV sucked that inning, but all 3 runs were unearned.... REALLY Unearned.

113 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:22 pm

[111] As Cliff pointed out today, it wouldn't be wise to hold your breath waiting for Berkman to hit.

114 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:24 pm

113) hey, i'm just waiting for someone not named Robbie (and Mark) to start hitting ( or start hitting again).

115 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:24 pm

Rocket Robbie. Get back on track, brother.

116 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:25 pm

[114] Swisher.

117 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:26 pm

Nice play, douche.

118 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:26 pm

RUN PREVENTION, BABY!

119 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:26 pm

That was ugly.

120 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:27 pm

Jesus christ, slide you lazy fuck.

121 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:27 pm

Granderson is fucking useless right now.

122 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:28 pm

[121] He hit it hard, but right at Lowell

123 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:29 pm

116) yes, i forgot, add Nick to the list of names.

124 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:30 pm

122) i didn't see. I looked down for a moment, looked up and the Yankees had two outs. OK he hit it hard.

125 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:31 pm

Yeah, it was a very hard grounder.
I can't get over Berkman walking into the tag at second.

126 Sliced Bread   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:31 pm

soft cerv

127 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:33 pm

Turns out this wasn't a good day to rest Posada.

128 Sliced Bread   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:34 pm

[127] yeah, but it's a night game after a day off, so it had to be...

129 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:38 pm

Vazquez been hanging out with Padilla?

130 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:39 pm

JV goes at least 7 if not for the Charle Brown antics of Cervelli.
Sit down, Beltre. Nice Reggie swing. Let's score some friggin runs.

131 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:39 pm

It's pissing me off a lot that our battery puked up those three runs. JV is pitching extremely well now. It would have been so easy to be on top of this game.

132 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:40 pm

Javy hasn't looked too bad outside of that one disastrous inning (yeah, I know, unearnerd runs...but seriously).

Let's go offense!

133 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:43 pm

[130] - [132] I'd say we have a consensus.

134 Sliced Bread   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:43 pm

shut the fuck up. Michael.
not in the mood

135 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:44 pm

Make him pay, Nick.

136 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:44 pm

NOW can we start running?

137 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:45 pm

There ya go.
Hit someone else, Laptop.

138 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:46 pm

Swish is a goddamn goofball. That much I know.

139 Sliced Bread   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:46 pm

fuck em up, Tex...

140 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:46 pm

133) the Banter, bringing folks together.

141 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:47 pm

Oh for...

142 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:47 pm

And Teix goes down after a long, tough at bat.

143 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:47 pm

Ok, Rodriguez

144 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:48 pm

Remy says Buchholz "really jammed him" (Teixeira), but isn't that right in Mark's wheelhouse? Low and inside?

145 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:48 pm

Double steal or something. This is torture.

146 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:48 pm

[142] It was epic

147 Sliced Bread   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:48 pm

whaddaya say, Centaur?

148 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:48 pm

They should probably walk Mr 600 to get to the middle infielder.

149 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:48 pm

Specially Marked Balls!!

150 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:48 pm

Maddon would've squeezed

151 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:49 pm

Attaboy.

[148] Toldya.

152 Sliced Bread   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:49 pm

thank you

153 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:49 pm

Good. Hit one in the gap, Robbie. 3fer3.

154 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:49 pm

[150] No doubt in my mind.
Maddon would actually have squeezed the specially marked balls.

155 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:50 pm

149) he would have squeezed specially marked balls??

156 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:50 pm

154) damn you!

157 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:51 pm

Somewhat disappointing. One run was the bare minimum in that situation (corners, one out).

158 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:51 pm

[129] Father Padilla Meets The Perfect Gnat!

159 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:51 pm

You know what, monkeypants: just don't bother. What's the point?

160 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:52 pm

Hey, it's the specially marked drummer! Wazzup.

161 Alex Belth   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:53 pm

Welp, if Jav can get three more outs without giving up a run, he'll have done a decent job.

162 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:53 pm

Who's up in the bullpen? The NESN guys aren't saying.

163 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:53 pm

159) Grit means never giving up. I'm gritty.

164 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:55 pm

By the lunching shortstop.

165 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:55 pm

If JV confounded the Yanks with his slop while with another team I'd go bonkers. Is Joba the new 6 and 2/3 inning guy?

166 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:55 pm

Ah, Joba is the one up in the pen.

167 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:56 pm

[161] I blame you, Alex.

168 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:56 pm

You are f ucking terrible.

169 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:56 pm

162) interesting...it looks like Girardi is planning on playing the eighth inning very early tonight.

170 Sliced Bread   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:56 pm

go away, Javy.

171 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:57 pm

[160] hey man! trying to catch up on the game, yankee news of the day, and baseball in general.

of course. same fucking no-name asshole that wrecked santana's knee. i hate every last inch of the entire shit sox organization. i wish they were contracted...

172 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:58 pm

Every low pitch, middle of the plate by Javy has beem pounded tonight. Not that this should be a surprise.

173 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 8:59 pm

Eaay to second guess, but I guess he should have pulled Javy after Lowell's hit.

174 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:00 pm

b double o. Papi's homer and the rookie bullshit homer. Not good. Not good at all. My hightlight was JV's 63 mph changeup to Martinez. Fucking Bollocks!

175 randym77   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:00 pm

Kalish...he's the one who mangled Carlos Santana's knee, isn't he? (Er, the catcher, not the musician.)

176 Alex Belth   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:00 pm

I was asking too much. Just good enough to lose.

177 Alex Belth   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:01 pm

167) I'll take the heat.

Now, here comes the gasoline.

178 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:02 pm

[175] yup. see [171] : )

179 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:03 pm

[175] Santana takes more blame than Kalish methinks. He had his leg stuck straight out over the plate. Terrible outcome all around but his technique really screwed him.

180 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:03 pm

Remy notes that Rob has a very strawng throwing ahm.

181 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:03 pm

speaking of music...

my [158] Padilla post, was an obscure reference to an old Kansas tune. someone mentioned Padilla (vicente, i presume), earlier. i haven't gone thru the whole thread...

182 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:05 pm

[175] "Hope Your Feeling Better"...

183 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:06 pm

180) my wife was laughing at him diwcussing Gardner during his first ab: Gahdnah batting two nahnty in the nahn hole...

184 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:06 pm

[181] Whoa.
Mine [182] is much less obscure!

I had one Kansas album as a kid. I wore it down pretty good.

185 Sliced Bread   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:06 pm

nice Zhaba.

Score Truck time.

186 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:09 pm

Berkman = Groundzilla.

187 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:09 pm

[184] yeah, decent prog rock in the 70's. Leftoverture, from 1976. last track - Magnum Opus, 6 parts. the one i referenced was the first 'movement'... the lead track on that record is "Carry On My Wayward Son", which everyone knows. forget the fact that it was a big hit single, it's a tremendous song. really great writing and playing.

188 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:10 pm

[186] Would be nice if he worked the count

189 Sliced Bread   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:10 pm

fuggin Ingrid Berkman

190 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:10 pm

[187] Wayward Son I know, of course. The album I had was the eponymous one.

191 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:11 pm

...sigh...

192 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:12 pm

2-1 Jays over Rays in the eighth.

193 Alex Belth   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:13 pm

Hi, my name is Curtis Granderson: I used to be worth a shit.

194 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:14 pm

I hate to say it, but Kerry Wood would be my call here, too.
Wood would.

195 Alex Belth   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:14 pm

189) That's GREAT! LOL. Let's just hope the Jays can hold it together but with that chump Gregg closing, I ain't holding my breath. And now Kerry on to serve up a dinger or two....

196 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:15 pm

Monkeypants, how do you like Heidi Watney?

197 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:15 pm

Big Fat ass looks like he dropped about 50 lbs.

198 tocho   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:15 pm

what a frustrating game... 1-0 (sucks), then they get the lead 1-2 (high fives all around, here we go!), stupid error 4-2 (turn the TV off), 4-3 (yes!, we're back in business, Javy settled down!), 6-3 (TV off... for good).

the only hope is TB losing

199 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:17 pm

booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

200 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:17 pm

Clank.

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201 Alex Belth   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:18 pm

Nick Swisher. Not a good outfielder.

202 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:18 pm

How in the fuck in any world can that be ruled a hit. Gimme a break.

203 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:18 pm

196) to be honest, i dislike each and every one of what I refer to, offensively, as the "useless sideline bimbos." I don't really have an opinion beyond that, except she looks a little less manly than the one YES employs...what's her name?

204 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:18 pm

Kerry Wood my wayward son
There'll be peace when you are done

205 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:18 pm

[190] ah, the "John Brown" album, their debut. good stuff!

i once got called to possibly record a Steve Walsh solo album. it never came to pass and they ended up hiring an international drum star. oh well...

206 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:19 pm

I like Wood's make-'em-hit-line-drives pitching style.

207 Alex Belth   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:19 pm

Jesus, they sure are squaring it up against Kerry, ain't they?

208 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:20 pm

[203] Kim Jones.

But Heidi isn't really a bimbo. She does look like one, I admit.

209 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:20 pm

[196] i think you know how i feel about her...

take a wild guess!

210 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:20 pm

Where the hell was that pitch?

211 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:20 pm

[205] Wait, you don't have an international reputation???

212 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:21 pm

[209] I wasn't going to ask you. But you aren't watching her now, are you? You have NESN on?

213 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:22 pm

I really hope this doesn't encourage Girardi to use Wood in important situations. It won't right? Joe saw that there were four deep liners from four batters.

214 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:23 pm

Longoria lead off single in the ninth.

215 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:26 pm

Gregg goes 0-2 to Aybar, then Aybar works the count full.
Strike three looking!
One down.

216 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:26 pm

214) i'm tempted to switch over to rogers sportsnet ontario and watch that game, but i figure i would just jinx the jays.

217 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:28 pm

Zobrist flies out, two away. Runner still on first. Here comes Bartlett...

218 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:28 pm

This game S.U.C.K.S. Maybe laptop can get a complete game in under 100 pitches.

219 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:29 pm

Perhaps Jeter's doing some sort of tribute to Wang?

220 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:30 pm

[212] neh. i've looked her up before...

221 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:30 pm

fuck Laptop Buttholz. assfuk.

222 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:31 pm

Jays win.

223 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:31 pm

Break his ankle.

224 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:33 pm

Oh Mark, take one for the freaking team there!

225 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:34 pm

Teix was clearly looking for something else

226 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:34 pm

Not one of those four pitches was in the strike zone.

227 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:43 pm

i could very well be wrong, but i could swear i girardi said kerry would not pitch more than 1 inning at a time. 1.2 innings, 30+ pitches. i mean, i don't give a shit, i'll take it...

228 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:44 pm

Bologna One!

229 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:45 pm

NYC -> Scranton is not a long ride.

230 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:48 pm

[229] Dunder Mifflin execs do it a lot.

231 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:50 pm

Rem-dog really is impressed by Robbie.

Bawl hit very hahd.

232 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:51 pm

His arm is a rocket. And he hits rockets. Rocket Robbie.

233 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:51 pm

time to earn your stripes, puma!

234 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:52 pm

Heah's Dan Bahd.

235 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:54 pm

Oh, you're kidding.
Well, hats off. Jeez.

236 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:54 pm

[234] spearshaker

237 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:54 pm

Finally hits the ball hard, but right at a fielder

238 randym77   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:55 pm

Poor Berkman.

Ellsbury must have grass stuck in his teeth after that one.

239 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:55 pm

[236] RIght, that guy. One ER in his last 17 innings.

240 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:56 pm

[237] Not even "right at".

241 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 9:57 pm

I blame Seamus for not being here to ward off the first inning two run home run jinx.

242 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:00 pm

Don't like this Ortiz - Gaudin matchup

243 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:01 pm

[242] that's the feeling i had with kerry...

244 randym77   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:01 pm

Ye gods. And only one base on all that.

245 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:02 pm

[242] You just knew he'd leg out an infield hit!

246 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:02 pm

What constitutes an error nowadays? Am I the only one who gets annoyed over errors that are not ruled thusly? : )

247 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:03 pm

245) speed kills.

248 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:03 pm

So Posada PH in the ninth, right?

249 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:03 pm

[245] Better outcome than I had in mind

250 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:04 pm

[246] I would've given him a base hit on that.

251 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:04 pm

That pitch was a strike to Teix...

252 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:05 pm

Lowell needs to retire and get back on that evolution poster where he belongs.

253 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:05 pm

[251] Joe West texted the home plate ump.

254 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:05 pm

246) i used to be, but i've fiven up. My new position is that there should be no errors at all...just eliminate the E dorm scoring. If a batter hits the ball and he ends up on basewhether the ball was dielded or nor, it should just fo as a hit. It's a much more elegant system than relying on the home team's scorer to determine which batted ball should be a hit or not. And it would also encourage the adoption of more advanced defensive metrics by the media and general public.

255 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:07 pm

[254] Autocorrect, FTW

256 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:09 pm

I remember doing a certain amount of E dorm scoring in college.

257 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:10 pm

Well, there's hope. It's Papelbon.

258 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:10 pm

255) be nice.

Anyway, i would just get rid of errors.

259 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:11 pm

Hello All,
This game should be tied right now, Brains failed himself early.
Why does Berkman remind me of Nick Johnson without the walks? I know he's had a great career, and A Professional Hitter (tm) but not everyone can thrive in the pressure cooker here.
And Granderson looks lost at bat, in the field, and on the bases the few times he's on base.

We have to at least split this series with the Sox. At least the Rays lost alread tonight.

And...Kim Jones is not a Bimbo, She is a sporting girl who paid dues since she was Penn State. Now, Heide...

Now, let's get to spincter face.

260 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:12 pm

[254] fiven and dielded. you rock, monkeypants! : )

261 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:13 pm

It's important to make Papelbon work, even if we can't mount a comeback. He pitched yesterday, so we can take him out of tomorrow's game.

262 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:13 pm

[259] yes, kim jones is a hottie and Penn State RULES!!! : )

i got my lion pride!!!!!!!!!

263 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:13 pm

260) i aim to please.

264 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:13 pm

[258] Starting in the booth, no doubt

265 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:14 pm

Not exactly making him work.

Come on, Jetes!

266 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:14 pm

bases empty. if anyone can hit a grand slam now, it jeter!

267 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:14 pm

[259] "Pressure" isn't the problem with Berkman

268 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:15 pm

[254] I am not a fan of that, unfortunately. I just want to become the offical scorer of all time. : )
My dad thinks golf should simply get rid of par. What's the point really? Low score should win. End of story.
This game was an epic failure.

269 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:17 pm

268) maybe MLB could get interactive: fans could text in and vote their ruling, error or hit, for a small fee of course.

270 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:19 pm

[269] FIrst 50 entries win specially marked balls.

271 OldYanksFan   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:20 pm

This game has left a mark on my balls.

272 Mattpat11   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:20 pm

I mean this in the most heterosexual way possible.

Brett Gardner has very blue eyes

273 OldYanksFan   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:21 pm

[272] Brett says you have nice hair.

274 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:22 pm

That looked like a pretty good pitch.

275 Mattpat11   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:22 pm

Wow. Hell of an AB from Derek. He's been looking pretty good since the break.

276 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:22 pm

Awesome.
That should do it, Papelbon unavailable tomorrow.

277 Mattpat11   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:22 pm

[273] I thank him.

278 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:22 pm

[265] jetes made him a work a good bit. there's that...

279 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:22 pm

273) and specially marked balls.

280 Raf   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:23 pm

Git your ass back behind the plate, blue

281 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:23 pm

Might have been low, but Paps kind of has a point.
But Jetes earned it.

282 OldYanksFan   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:23 pm

Teix will need another HR as ARod is ADud

283 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:23 pm

[272/3] i have both nice hair and very blue eyes (if i may say)! : )

284 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:23 pm

Jeter being gritty! (looked like a strike to me).

285 OldYanksFan   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:24 pm

20 pitches for Papsmear

286 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:24 pm

Hm, if Swish gets on, the game gets really interesting all of a sudden.

287 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:24 pm

I would also eliminate defensive indifference. You move up on the bases, you get a stolen base.

288 OldYanksFan   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:24 pm

[283] and specially marked balls?

289 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:25 pm

[268] i vote you official scorer of all-time. can you now go back to a-rod's last "defensive indifference" and give him a "stolen fucking base", so he can have 300?

it's the only way he's getting there... thanks, man!

290 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:26 pm

When Collin Curtis goes for a milestone hit sometime in the future, will he have specially marked ball?

(sorry for that)

291 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:26 pm

[287] I would eliminate the fly out. Any batter must be thrown out at first base or it's a safety.

292 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:26 pm

[287] yes, agreed. thank you. i think jeter feels the same way. i remember reading him say that. i think it was a kirkjian piece at espn on stolen bases. coulda been over this past offseason...

FUCK!!!

we best at least split this series...

293 Just Fair   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:26 pm

3 1/2 hours of garbage.

294 Mattpat11   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:27 pm

Oh well. This one is on Javy.

At least the Rays lost. Lets go out and beat the Sox tomorrow.

295 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:27 pm

[291] i would eliminate the shit sox. period, end of.

[i'm dead fucking serious. i loathe them.]

296 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:28 pm

291) now you're just being silly.

297 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:28 pm

[295] I would eliminate the hemiola.

298 kenboyer made me cry   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:30 pm

Spincter stretched, but did not yield. We'll get them tomorrow.

299 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:30 pm

Yeah, that was awful. I'll have to detox with some west coast canadian football. See y'all tomorrow.

300 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:31 pm

[297] NEVAH!!!

3:2 forevah!!!

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301 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:32 pm

[299] and a labatt's blue ribbon!

302 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:34 pm

[300] Okay, okay.
Love me some Brahms, anyway!

303 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:36 pm

[302] nice, me too. brahms is very very good.

i LOVE me some shostakovish. shosty is *amazing*. mahler, too.

debussy/ravel = french impressionism.

but now, it's all about KANSAS!!!

304 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:38 pm

[303] No kidding. Huh. Yeah, you're kind of into the Romantics, huh? Shostakovich is too sarcastic for me. (Not really, I just like to say that.)

Wagner? (Not his, you know, politics.)

305 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:38 pm

huh, that was granderson's 1st double play this year. i wouldn't have guessed that. rather inopportune time for it... : /

306 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:40 pm

Hey, you would like Messiaen. If you haven't listened to him, do it.
Not Romantic, and not Impressionistic, but if you like Debussy and Ravel and Mahler and Shostakovich, and of course cool rhythms, then this is your guy. Olivier Messiaen.

307 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:42 pm

[304] well, i do talk in my sleep! no, jus' kiddin'. that drummer sang. i stopped that in 8th grade, during a live performance and my voice cracked. everyone made fun of me. i mean, they already did, but now they had even more fuel. like they needed it... weh.

that's ironic about Shosty. he actually *was* sarcastic! i have musical comedy he composed - cheryomushki - and his maniacal smile on the cover is quite sarcastic. if i were more of a book reader, i'd read his biography. but it's a MASSIVE book - simply titled Dmitri.

308 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:46 pm

[306] hilarious, i thought you meant the band The Romantics. hahaha!!! that rocks.

i'm actually a Baroque guy. Bach is my biggest Classical hero. i LOVE him. if i had a son, i'd name him Sebastian. or Jacob Sebastian, for the J.S. i'm not kidding. (i kinda need a girlfriend before that can even become a possibility...)

of course, i know - and dig - Messiaen. i don't have much though, if any. screaming headless torsos and bill stewart both reference ol' oliver. he's excellent and i do need to check out more. cool you know of him!

i'd like for you to hear my 20th century nocturne. i orchestrated it for a symphony. it's under 3 minutes, but quite episodic. it has a ton of influences from all different periods/genres...

309 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:50 pm

Oh, I'm more of a Baroque guy too. Well, I'm eclectic, but if I had to choose, then Baroque. Bach first. Handel and Scarlatti next.

Cool, I'm impressed that you know Messiaen. I know, Shostakovich was sarcastic, and his music too. The only "kidding" is that nothing could really be too sarcastic for me!

310 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:52 pm

Oh, wait, you have a nocturne?? You don't seem like the praying type :-)

Has anyone ever heard it?

311 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:53 pm

[309] well, i do have two degrees in classical music.

yes, i'm the same. baroque/bach first. and very sarcastic (and silly).

i'm also a penderecki fan. so, yeah, eclectic!

312 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:53 pm

And that reminds me, Monteverdi is also a favorite of mine, esp. the Vespers. (The counterpart of a Nocturne, is why I thought of it.)

313 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:55 pm

[311] Oh, uh, hm. He's American, right? And is he alive?
(Penderecki, not Bach.)
I don't think I know any of his work.

314 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:55 pm

[310 well, i'm vampire boy, so night music suits me well!

yeah, lotsa folks have heard it. the official cd should be out this fall. got my copyrights, waiting on the publishing to come through...

i actually played it to diane the other night. she mentioned film scoring, which lotsa folks have...

i hope to have a choreographer write a dance part to it. if so, i'll have it filmed and put it up on the eventual website. i can think of nothing cooler for a composer. i hope that happens...

315 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 10:57 pm

[314] Oh, how did that go, with Diane?? I really want to hear her side of the food part!
Wow, so you got a symphony orchestra to play your nocturne. That's impressive.

316 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 11:02 pm

[312] monteverdi - that's old school! i do like regular verdi. you know, giuseppe verdi. = joe green! : )

[313] no, penderecki is polish. i think he's still alive, yeah. born in 1933. he's taught here in america. krzysztof penderecki = pronounced Christ-Off Pender-etski. as weird as he is! crazy ass, unique avant-garde. not for the weak-stomached! his main piece is "Threnody to the Victims of Hiroshima". it's out as fuk.

317 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 11:04 pm

[315] you'd be disappointed. i ate every last bit of my excellent dish! even had the house salad. no problems ordering, no special requests, no hassles. i was easy-peasy and ate very well, thank you very much! : )

nocturne = separate post. on its way...

318 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 11:06 pm

[316] Yeah, it is kind of old school. Very early Baroque. I once sang in the Vespers, and it really ripped me up. The Duo Seraphim. (That's the source of my love of sackbuts!)

319 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 11:08 pm

[315] nocturne:

i composed it on piano. heard a symphony in my head. i recorded it on a digital piano. then i hired a MIDI engineer for the library of symphonic sounds. i assigned every note i played to an orchestral instrument and...voila - a symphony!

or...a - symphony. but, what's a poor boy ta do? i can't hire a 'real' orchestra. most of it sounds very authentic. in a few spots, it sounds like a fake symphony, 'coz it's, well...a fake symphony.

but i'm very very proud of it. moreso than any of the drumset, mallet or percussion playing on the album. 'coz it's... not percussion. there's a little percussion in the piece, but very little. it's more about the composition, performance (piano) and orchestration.

in the libretto, there'll be a 3-stanza poem i wrote to go with it...

320 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 11:12 pm

[318] dude, if we were in-person pals, (which would be cool), i'd call you "sackubut(t)" from here unto eternity!

speaking of sackbuts... just a few comments ago, impressed with your musical knowledge, i was thinking you'd be a trombone player. i can't remember if that's what you played growing up, or it just popped in my head. either way, that's really ironic!

i dated a trombone player in college. frueling posaunens, was the festival. i even had a t-shirt. man, she was amazing... : (

321 monkeypants   ~  Aug 6, 2010 11:13 pm

Sorry to interrupt the music symposium...new thread up for those interested. Maybe I'll take my unique brand of typographical humor up there. Meanwhile it's Toronto 12 Edmonton 4. Gotta love the CFL.

322 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 11:14 pm

i mean, "sackbutt" with 2 t's. like, "tutti". : )

323 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 11:15 pm

Oh, cool. Sure, that makes sense. And if it sounds "fake" in some spots, the real point is that you get to hear it, and so do other people. (Trombones always sound a little 'fake' to us sackbut aficionados, you know.)

I know some composers, and they are always incredibly excited when they can get an orchestra to perform their work. (Even the really successful ones are excited.)

Hm.
Okay, I know two composers. ('Some' is technically accurate but rather misleading.)

324 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 11:15 pm

[321] ha! i was just about to write - "i was channeling my inner monkeypants, when i spelled the misspelling of "sackbut" wrong!"

thanks for the heads up. i'll stick around here for a minute, see if the sackbutt from rhode island is still around! : )

325 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 11:17 pm

Oh, no, I never played trombone. I have no chops at all. (My sons do play horns of various sorts.) I only sang and played the piano.

You can call me "Cosi fan two-Ts" if you want.

326 RIYank   ~  Aug 6, 2010 11:19 pm

Okay, off to the new thread (and probably not for too long, in my case).

327 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 11:20 pm

[323] well, now you know a third! : )

yes, the point is to get the damn thing out of my mind and inner ear and onto disc. what an amazing feeling!

the spots that sound the fakest (not a word, but you follow me...), are indeed the chords that are a brass quintet. it sounds very "organ"-like. this bothers me, but there's nothing i can do. we messed with the velocity in there to take out any waves that an organ couldn't make, so it's authentic in that regard, but it still sounds more like an organ than a brass quintet. i know in my heart, it's all brass instruments. you can hear it in there, but it does blanket like an organ.

overall, i'm really happy with how it came out and the engineer is too. he's a genius and i'm honored to work with him. he's recording my eight new pieces next month. all drums/mallets/percussion. there's tributes to my grandpa in there, as well as "shadow games" for todd drew...

328 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 11:21 pm

[325] trombone is a really difficult instrument. so's the french horn. but, it's french, so... it has strings, ya know! (really, it does.)

329 thelarmis   ~  Aug 6, 2010 11:33 pm

break up the oreo's! fightin' showalter's 4-0 under the buck!

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