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Get Away Day

It’s overcast and with the odd drop of drizzle here at Yankee Stadium, but the teams are taking batting practice and baseball is a go.

I’m in the press box today, so I’ll be liveblogging the action. Here are the lineups. Back with more in a bit:

A’s

L – Ryan Sweeney (CF)
R – Orlando Cabrera (SS)
L – Jason Giambi (DH)
R – Matt Holliday (LF)
L – Jack Cust (RF)
R – Kurt Suzuki (C)
R – Mark Ellis (2B)
S – Landon Powell (1B)
R – Bobby Crosby (3B)

LHP – Brett Anderson

Yankees:

R – Derek Jeter (SS)
L – Johnny Damon (LF)
S – Mark Teixeira (1B)
S – Jorge Posada (C)
L – Robinson Cano (2B)
S – Nick Swisher (RF)
L – Hideki Matsui (DH)
S – Melky Cabrera (CF)
R – Cody Ransom (3B)

LHP – CC Sabathia

Melky is making just his second start in center of the season. Robinson Cano stays in the fifth spot despite the opposing lefty on the mound. He’s hit .301/.347/.431 against lefties on the season thus far. With the rainout on Monday and the off-day tomorrow, Posada is starting the day game after the night game. Save for Melky, this is the same lineup Joe Girardi posted last night.

The A’s are sitting lefties Eric Chavez and Travis Buck against Sabathia.

Big Texan Brett Anderson is emerging as the key player the A’s received from the Diamondbacks in the Dan Haren trade. The 21-year-old rookie lefty got hit around a bit by the Mariners in his major league debut, but turned in a great outing against the Red Sox his last time out (7 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 2 BB, 5 K), only to have his bullpen blow the game in the eighth.

Update: There’s a steady drizzle now, but the groundskeepers are tending the field as if it was 70 degrees and sunny. Look below the jump for further updates.

Surely the rain is playing a part, but the stands are nearly empty at 1:00. There are some folks clustered under the overhangs, but since the decks don’t hang over each other as much as they used to, that doesn’t leave many folks in their seats. The umbellas are out, but the Yanks are playing catch in front of their dugout (Jeter with Cano, Ransom with Ramiro Peña). Mark Teixeira is running sprints in the outfield.

Just before the Yankees took the field, there was a huge burst of white noise from the P.A. system. I’ve had that happen at a gig, and it’s loud and embarrassing. Never heard it in a venue this large, however.

Top 1st:

Sabathia’s first pitch to lefty-swinging Ryan Sweeney is low and outside. His second is fouled straight back into the net. His third is also low, 2-1.  Low and outside again, 3-1.  Sabathia throws a strike and Sweeney flies out to left.

It was just announced that Monday’s rainout has been rescheduled for Thursday July 23 at 7:05.

Orlando Cabrera hits one well toward the right-field gap, but it hangs up for Melky. Jason Giambi comes up again to a good hand mixed with a few boos. He fouls a 0-1 pitch back to fall into a quick 0-2 hole. Sabathia comes up and a bit inside for ball one, then goes low and away for ball two. J-Bombs don’t play that. Low and away again, full count. CC throws a strike and Giambi rips it foul hard past first base. Sabathia then gets called strike three on a pitch that catches the corner up and in.

Bottom 1st:

SNY’s seat in the press box is choice, top row almost directly behind home, but it’s hard to see the location of pitches from up here, so I’m caught between watching the action and the monitors. I think I’ll lean toward the field, which may mean less pitch info here in the blog.

After Jeter taps back to the pitcher, Johnny Damon reaches on what amounts to a swinging bunt down the first base line.

On 1-2, Teixeira pops one straight up. Landon Powell, a backup catcher playing first base, drops it in fair territory. Damon had to hold and is forced out at second on what amounts to a fielder’s choice. It’s actually a worse result for the Yankees than if Landon had made the catch because they lose Damon’s speed on the bases. Rookie mistake: I let out a big “oh” when Landon dropped the ball. No cheering in the press box, Corcoran!

Posada follows with a bouncer up the middle that Cabrera fields, but is unable to do anything with as Tex was running on contact with two outs. That’s two infield singles. Men on first and second, two outs for Cano.

On 1-2, Cano hits a slighly faster bouncer up the middle that Mark Ellis gets to and flips to Cabrera, just beating Posada at second for the final out.

0-0 after one.

Top 2nd:

Holliday fouls the first pitch right off Posada’s mask. It hit him flush between the eyes, but Jorge’s okay. He didn’t even take much extra time between pitches. CC then throws three straight balls. He’s already been in a lot of three-ball counts. this after walking five men in two of his first three starts. And there he walks Holliday to start the inning. Sabathia typically has outstanding control, but he’s not the same pitcher in April that he is the rest of the year. Don’t get worried quite yet.

As I write that Jack Cust serves a first-pitch single into right. First and second, none out. Fortunatley the bottom of the order is up for Oakland.

Checking his career splits, Sabathia’s K/BB is 1.94 in April and 2.65 or better every other month save for July (when it’s 2.26). His career BB/9 in April is 3.65 vs. 2.9 career overall.

Kurt Suzuki just hit a 2-2 pitch to the wall in left field that was caught by a fan reaching over the wall. It was called a home run, but the umpires are going in to review it. Watching the replay, the fan caught it a good two to three feet above the top of the wall, so it likely would have reached the seats if untouched. Damon was at the wall and lept for it, but he certainly wouldn’t have caught it as his glove hit hte wall on his way up and the ball was way over his head. I say this will remain a home run, but we’ll see what the umps say. If they say homer, it’s 3-0 A’s.

That didn’t take long. Home run Suzuki (his first of the year and just the fourth by an Athletic all season). 3-0 A’s.

Mark Ellis follows by hitting a sinking liner to Robinson Cano’s right, but Cano makes a nice diving catch for the first out.

Sabathia goes full on Landon Powell. He’s at 35 pitches and has gotten just four outs. Two more tosses award Powell first base via Sabathia’s second walk. Dave Eiland and Posada visit the mound.

Bobby Crosby pops foul to Cano on Sabathia’s first pitch after the mound visit. The YES Network gun has Sabathia at 95 miles per hour, so there’s no problem there. Two more pitches and Ryan Sweeney grounds out to end the inning. Good work, Eiland!

Bottom 2nd:

Swisher leads off with a hard groundout to third. Matsui follows with a home run into the right-field bleachers. That was no cheapie. Melky then hits Anderson’s next pitch into the visiting bullpen. A right-handed homer for Melky! Anything is possible in this ballpark. 3-2 A’s.

Ransom follows the two homers by striking out looking on three pitches.

Jeter hits a very hard grounder to first which Powell boots. Mark Ellis gets to it, but by then there’s no one on first but Jeter. It’s ruled an error on Powell.

The rain has been constant thus far and looks like it’s really starting to bug some of the players. Damon was fussing and wiping his helmet brim in that at-bat before popping up to Powell. The crowd “oooo”s as they see Powell attempting to make another play, but Powell fights the raindrops to squeeze the last out.

Top 3rd:

Sabathia starts the third inning at 40 pitches. He gets Cabrera to ground to second. Robinson Cano is getting a lot of work in this game, he’s been involved in the last four outs (his great diving catch, a foul pop-up, and two grounders).

Sabathia falls behind Giambi, 3-1. Giambi them pops up to shallow left, but Damon Calls off Jeter only to realize he’s overrun the ball. It tips off his glove for a two-base error. CC didnt’ need that.

Holliday rips the next pitch toward left field. Leapin’ Cody Ransom manages to get his glove on it, but he can’t squeeze it and it falls for an infield single with Giambi reaching third. Runners on the corners, one out for Jack Cust, who singled his last time up.

Cust hits a chopper back to CC. He checks Giambi and throws to second to get Holliday. Giambi then takes off for home. Jeter steps on second for the force, then fires home to get Giambi, but there’s no one covering home. Posada had run up the line to back up first, Sabathia, having made the play, didn’t have time to cover, and Ransom was holding Giambi in place. The ball bounces off the backstop as Giambi scores.

Suzuki then flies out. 4-2 A’s.

Bottom 3rd:

Tex leads off with a single to left. Posada follows with a double into the left-field corner. The Yanks are set up with the tying runs in scoring position and no outs. Cano, Swisher, and Matsui due up.

Cano takes ball one. Fouls one away to even the count. The next pitch is up and in and Cano fouls it off in the process of dodging it. Low and away, even at 2-2. Up and in, Cano hits a chopper to second that plates Teixeira and moves Posada to third. Cano swung at a bad pitch, but got the job done. Swisher’s turn . . .

Swish takes low and in, then a strike on the outside corner, 1-1. He then rips what looks like a double off the bat to the left-field gap, but Sweeney cuts it off and throws Swisher out at second. Again, a bad decision (trying for second), but Swisher got the job done. Tie game, 4-4.

Matsui grounds out to first to end the inning.

Top 4th:

We’ve got a new ballgame here with a 4-4 score. Sabathia is at 54 pitches after three frames.

Ellis grounds out to third. CC has just one strikeout thus far, and that was Giambi looking on a full count in the first.

It’s downright chilly in the Bronx, but the rain appears to have stopped. I don’t doubt that the cold, rainy weather has adversely affected both pitchers.

Sabathia goes full on Powell, who flies out to left. The crowd gives Damon the business as the ball is in the air, but he makes the catch and gets a long hand for doing so.

Looking at the batter’s eye, I think I still see some drizzle, but my eyes could be playing tricks on me.

Sabathia gets ahead of Crosby1-2, then wastes one up and away. Crosby fouls off a slider down and in, then hits a looper to Jeter for the final out. That was the first 1-2-3 inning in the game since the top of the first.

Bottom 4th:

The Yanks tied up the game and CC held the A’s. The offense can really swing the feel of this game with a go-ahead run here. Unfortunately, the bottom of the order is up.

Melky leads off with a hard grounder to third, but Bobby Crosby makes a nice spining catch and throw to get him at first.

Ransom falls into a quick 0-2 hole, after which Anderson throws an outside pitch right past his catcher, then one well inside and in the dirt to even it at 2-2. Ransom grounds out to shortstop. That’s the first time in the game Anderson has retired the first two batters of an inning in order.

Boom goes the dynamite, Jeter homers to the right-field side of Monument Park, 5-4 Yankees. That’s a great inning-and-a-half turnaround for the Yanks.

That’s four homers in this game through four innings, by the way. Only Matsui’s cleared the wall by more than a few feet.

Damon flies out to right to end the inning.

Top 5th:

Sweeney grounds to second, Cabrera hits a broken-bat liner to Ransom, and Giambi strikes out swinging on a 2-2 slider. That’s seven-straight retired by Sabathia and finally his second K. Lock-down time.

(Incidentally, it was hard not to start clapping with the crowd with two strikes on Giambi.)

Bottom 5th:

I quite enjoyed this exchange in comments:

  1. 63. OaktownYankeeFan

    What is with all of the solo homers? I am happy that the Yanks are hitting, but this year it seems like most of the Yanks’ homers are solo shots.

  2. 64. RIYank

    Yeah, [63], that’s weird, huh? It must be because base runners disrupt the infamous wind tunnel effect.

Mark Teixeira grounds out to third on the first pitch, a rare bad at-bat by Tex, though it wasn’t in a particularly big spot (which isn’t to say the Yankees couldn’t use some insurance runs here). Anderson then gets Posada swinging on a breaking ball, that’s just his second K of the game; the first was Ransom looking.

Cano hits a ground ball into left field, just beyond Cabrera’s range, for a two-out single, but Swisher flies out to strand him.

Top 6th:

CC’s at 84 pitches. The Yankees will let him throw 120 with regularlity, so he could go seven full or even beyond if he’s able to keep the A’s at bay (no pun, or rhyme, intended).

Holliday grounds out to Jeter. That’s a good start and eight-in-a-row for CC.

Cust works the count full as the rain begins to come down again. He then walks. CC’s only other two walks in this game were in that ugly second inning.

Kurt Suzuki almost beheads the ball boy with a foul the other way. He then grounds to third. Ransom makes a nice play, looping around the ball to get in position to throw and Teixeira makes a nice scoop on the throw. Cust moves to second. Two outs for Ellis.

Ellis almost beheads Sabathia with a single up the middle that plates Cust. He goes to second on Melky’s throw home, which misses the cutoff man and is too far up the third-base line for Posada to have a play. Tie game, 5-5. I wonder if it’s the rain that’s bugging CC.

Powell breaks his bat on an inning-ending groundout, but the damage is done. Yanks have the bottom of the order due up, though that starts with Matsui, who homered in the second.

Bottom 6th:

Matsui pops up Anderson’s 1-1 offering. Suzuki and Crosby nearly collide in pursuit of it, but Crosby makes the play on the fading Opening Day logo in foul territory.

Melky draws a four-pitch walk and Bob Geren pops out of the dugout to pull Anderson at 97 pitches. His line (pending Melky): 5 1/3 IP, 9 H, 5 R, 3 HR, 1 BB, 2 K.

Righty Michael Wuertz, formerly of the Cubs, is in to face Cody Ransom with the go-ahead run on first and one out.

Melky runs on the 1-1 pitch and is thrown out by Suzuki. He had a good jump, but Suzuki’s throw was perfect. That caught stealing hurts immediately as Ransom doubles into the left-field corner on 3-1. Jeter is up with the go-ahead run on second and two out.

Jeter quickly falls behind 0-2, the second strike coming on a pitch he drives into the dirt in front of home that mercifully rolls foul. Jeter then lifts an apparent RBI single over Cabrera’s leap, then stretches the hit into a double, despite the fact that Sweeney’s throw appeared to beat him to second (it did, but Ellis’s tag was high and the ump didn’t give it to him). 6-5 Yanks. That’s two huge clutch hits for the captain in his last two at-bats.

Damon follows with another swinging bunt single, this one up the third base line. Runners on the corners, two out, for Teixeira. I bet he’ll have a better at-bat here.

Tex takes the first three pitches to go up 2-1 then singles home Jeter. I told you so.

Posada grounds out to end the inning, but the Yankees did it again and lead 7-5.

Top 7th:

Anderson’s line above is final (all his runs were earned).

Sabathia is back on the mound at 100 pitches with Coke warming in the pen, likely for Giambi if CC gets  in trouble.

Crosby hits a grounder in the shortstop hole. Jeter makes his pattented jump-throw, but can’t get enough on it to get Crosby, who reaches with a leadoff single.

Sabathia then walks Sweeney on a full count. Barring a double-play, Cabrera should be CC’s last batter. He’s at 109 pitches. Albaladejo is also warming.

Cabrera bunts the runners up. Girardi stays put. Well, I guess CC is a lefty too, and Cabrera only used one pitch.

Giambi gets the first run in on a broken-bat grounder. Girardi visits the mound and leaves CC in, likely telling him this is his last batter.

That was one too many as Holliday hits Sabathia’s last pitch back up the middle for an RBI single to tie the game at 7-7.

Phil Coke is in to face Cust with a man on first and two out. the grounds keepers are applying a ton of drying agent to the area around home.

Sabathia’s line pending Holliday: 6 2/3 IP, 6 H, 7 R (6 ER), 1 HR, 4 BB, 2 K.

The rain seems to have stopped again, but too late for CC (though he could still get the win if Coke holds it and the Yanks rally again).

Coke falls behind Cust 2-0, but gets a grounder to second to end the inning and keep the game tied.

Bottom 7th:

Ex-Yankee Russ Springer, who is old enough to have been trade with J.T. Snow for Jim Abbott in 1834, is in for the A’s.

Cano, Swisher, Matsui due up.

Today’s paid attendance: 43,342.

Cano takes a ball and shoots a single to left.

Swisher just misses a home run down the right-field line, it tails into the front row right at the corner. On 2-2, he rips another foul down the first base line. Good thing there’s nobody in those seats to get hit.

Sabathia threw just 58 percent of his 112 pitches for strikes. His line above is final.

Swisher goes full.

. . . and takes a walk to put the go-ahead run on second for Matsui with none out.

Matsui is coming to the plate to vintage Billy Joel tunes this year, it seems: “Big Shot,” “You May Be Right.” At least they played Blue Öyster Cult when he hit his dinger.

Springer (who is actually only 40 years old) misses badly with his first two pitches, bringing pitching coach (and another ex-Yankee) Curt Young to the mound. Springer then misses again to go 3-0 on Matsui. A pitch inside and low gets called strike one.

Matsui lifts a ball into the middle of the shallow right-center-field triangle and it drops in just beyond Mark Ellis’s reach. Bases loaded for Melky with none out.

Melky hacks at the first pitch and misses. Then fouls of the second to get behind 0-2 with a quickness.

The A’s have their closer, Brad Ziegler, warming furiously in the bullpen in the seventh inning of a tie game on the road.

Springer comes inside at Melky’s waist, forcing him to jump back, then Melky hacks at a pitch way high. Terrible AB for Melky.

Gardner’s hitting for Ransom against the righty Springer despite Ransom’s double in his last at-bat. Do you look squeeze here?

Nope, Brett’s swinging.

Springer comes up and in on Gardner on 0-1. This is some old-fashioned hardball from the grizzled old vet. Gardner fouls the next pitch off, 1-2.

Gardner lifts a shallow pop up to third. No dice.

Here’s Jeter looking to go 3-for-3 in clutch two-out hits.

Bases loaded, two out. Tie game. Bottom 7. Jeter vs. Springer.

First pitch is in the dirt, but Suzuki keeps it in front of him and the runners hold.

Jeter successfully checks his swing on a high ball two (he never took the bat of his shoulder, but turned his body).

Springer throws a perfect pitch on the low outside corner for strike 1, 2-1.

Jeter fouls the next back, 2-2.

He fouls off another.

The Captain can’t come through a third time, popping out to Ellis. Don’t blame him, blame Cabrera for a particularly awful at-bat.

Still tied, 7-7 heading into the eighth with Albaladejo coming on for the Yanks.

Top 8th:

Ramiro Peña is in for Ransom/Gardner at third base, which improves the defense if nothing else, though Gardner’s been lost as a pinch-runner, defensive replacement. I don’t agree with Girardi’s decision to pinch-hit for Ransom, though it’s easy to say that now. I just didn’t have quite enough time to say it before.

Albaladejo is facing Suzuki, Ellis, Powell.

Suzuki doesn’t hit it past a diving Jeter. Rather he hits one up the middle that Jeter gloves, but too deep to do anything with, including throw out a catcher. Infield single.

Ellis shows bunt, but Albaladejo’s pitch is high and inside, ball one.

Ellis gets his second attempt down to put Suzuki on second with the go-ahead run. One out and Landon Powell up (he’s 0-for-2 with a walk).

Powell works the count full (Albaladejo’s 2-2 pitch just missed outside), then grounds to second. Suzuki moves to third, but there are two out for ninth-place hitter Bobby Crosby (1-for-3, run scored).

Albaladejo quickly gets ahead 0-2.

The 0-2 is inside at Crosby’s shoetops, 1-2. Albaladejo then gets Crosby swinging over a pretty pitch on the inside corner. He’s demonstrably psyched about that, as well he should be.

Still tied, 7-7.

Bottom 8:

Rookie right-hander Andrew Bailey, who dominated in last night’s game and has been simply awesome in the early going thus far, is in for the A’s. Mo’s warming for the Yanks.

Bailey on the season: 10 1/3 IP, 2 H, 1 R (on a homer), 2 BB, 13 K.

Damon and the heart of the order up.

Damon, who hit that homer off Bailey last night, draws a walk to lead of the inning. Tex up.

Tex takes the first three pitches to go up 2-1, then fouls one away to run it even.

He pops the 2-2 up behind third and Cabrera comes over to squeeze it, though not without some difficulty. Posada up, one out, Damon still on first.

Posada takes to 1-1, then fouls one away into the first row down the left-field line, 1-2.

Bailey misses way outside, bringing Suzuki to the mound for a chat.

Jorge flies out to shallow left center. Damon’s still stuck on first. Cano up.

Cano swings at the first pitch and bounces it foul to the right side. He then takes a strike low and inside to fall behind 0-2.

Bailey throws strike three, but Suzuki’s target was outside and has to reach back to get it, so the A’s don’t ge thte call. No matter, cano grounds out to strand Damon.

Top 9th:

Rivera’s in for the Yankees, as he should be. “Enter Sandman” doesn’t have the same impact in a tie game, however.

Top of the order for Oakland.

Sweeney pops Mo’s second pitch to Ransom just across the foul line. One out.

Mo gets ahead of Cabrera 0-2, then buzzes him up and in, 1-2.

Cabrera responds with a line-drive single into left field. Giambi up.

Giambi hits a slow grounder to short. Jeter and Cano try to turn the double play, but it was hit too slow to double up even Giambi, and Cano’s throw is a bit off the mark due to his trying to rush it. Nonetheless, two out and a much slower runner on first.

Matt Holliday, who tied the game against Sabathia, quickly falls behind 0-2.

After a foul and a ball, Holliday hits a grounder through where Teixeira would have been playing had he not been holding Giambi on. Nonetheless, Cano makes a far-ranging play into shallow right and a nifty spin throw to first for the final out. Hang a star on that one.

Still tied, 7-7.

Bottom 9th:

Tie game on the road and the A’s go to their closer in the ninth, as well they should. Submarining righty Brad Ziegler is in for Oakland to face three lefties in Swisher, Matsui, and Melky.

Swisher checks his swing on 2-2 to run the count full, then takes inside for a leadoff walk. This is where they should have used Gardner, as a pinch-runner for Swisher here in a walk-off situation (and a defensive replacement for Swish if the run doesn’t score).

Groundzilla strikes with a rally destroying double play. Ouch.

Melky up with two out and none on.

Cabrera Ks on four pitches, another ugly at-bat.

Extra innings . . .

At this point I must warn you that I need to shut this liveblog down at 5pm regardless of the state of the game. That said, Damaso Marte is in the game, so the end might be near.

Top 10th:

Marte is in against Cust with Edwar Ramirez warming.

Marte walks Cust. Stays in against Suzuki.

Marte gets ahead 0-2.

Rajai Davis, who ran for Cust, takes off on 1-2 and takes second without a throw. Huge jump.

On 2-2, Suzuki swings through a slider diving down and in and screws himself into the ground, ending up literally sitting on home plate with his legs out in front of him, bat still in hand. Posada tags him to be sure.

Girardi calls on Edwar to pitch to Ellis with the go-ahead run on second and one out.

I’d walk Ellis and pitch to Powell here hoping for a double-play.

Oh, I forgot, Edwar doesn’t get grounders. Scary fly ball to center for the second out. Davis to third. Powell up with the go-ahead run on third and two out. Powell is 0-for-3 with a walk.

Edwar falls behind 3-1.

Powell walks. Well, glad they didn’t try my idea. Bobby Crosby up.

Dave Eiland visits the mound.

There’s no action in either pen.

Edwar gets ahead 1-2 as Crosby misses badly on a changeup.

The crowd comes alive and Crosby flies out to Jeter in shallow center.

Bottom 10th:

Okay, guys, this is it for me. I have to split at 5:00. Hopefully the Yanks will win it quickly with some sort of walk-off in this inning, but if not, I may have to split mid-inning. My apologies, but I have given you four hours of liveblog, so don’t complain.

Davis stays in center. Sweeney moves to right. Ziegler is in for a second inning of work. Ramiro Peña leads off with a groundout to second.

Here’s the captain. He also grounds out to second.

Well, it might be a quick inning, but for the wrong reasons.

Incidentally, all these ground balls (including Matsui’s double play in the previous frame) are why Ziegler is the Oakland closer (that and Joey Devine’s elbow).

Damon’s up following a mid-inning highlight package set to “Johnny B. Goode.”

He works the count full.

Then draws a two-out walk. Here comes Mark Teixeira looking for his “Giambi in the rain” moment (though it’s no longer raining).

On 1-0, Tex makes first base coach Mick Kelleher skip rope over a hard foul grounder.

Tex is way out in front of a 74 mile per hour changeup, 1-2.

He then flies to left.

On to the 11th, but without me.

It’s been fun. Hopefully next time I can get a result and some clubhouse reaction.

I’ll be back late tonight with a recap.

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1 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:07 pm

Ooooh "the press box!"

Have a "hand fed grape" or two for me, Cliff!

;)

2 rbj   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:13 pm

So what's been the reaction to Giambi? Rainout/non-EI/afternoon games, I don't get to see any of these A's games.

3 Cliff Corcoran   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:14 pm

see above, he's getting a strong hand, but with some boos mixed in

4 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:17 pm

[2] Quite positive actually, RBJ... cheers, a tip of his batting helmet at his first PA yesterday, followed by a 1-4 performance.

SSDD

;)

5 rbj   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:19 pm

[3] Thanks. I'd applaud Jason, he seems to be a good guy, and played hard for the Yankees. Not his fault the Yankees didn't bring him back, and if you're going to boo someone for doing steroids, there are an awful lot of them to boo.

6 seamus   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:22 pm

go Yanks!!

7 Yankee Fan in Boston   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:34 pm

that guy in the stands must feel like a total jerk right about now.

8 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:35 pm

How stupid are these fans. And that jackass in the poncho snatched it right from the dude in the jersey.

9 JohnnyC   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:35 pm

Obviously, we have the wrong scouting report on Suzuki.

10 rbj   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:36 pm

Aw crap.

As per Peter, the A's only have 3 home runs all year. That's a quiet day at NYS.

11 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:36 pm

what the fuck is the point of being a total douche and crowding out the guy who was actually going to catch the ball in his seat and then throwing the ball away.

12 Yankee Fan in Boston   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:36 pm

the guy in the jersey did a ghost bobble.

13 zack   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:38 pm

Ahh, this team is infuriating. Meanwhile, the Sox continue to correct to their projections and somehow win with nobody but Youkilis and Nick Green hitting. Sure would be nice to, you know, not hover around .500 every April.

14 Yankee Fan in Boston   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:40 pm

[13] i just hope that we aren't still having this conversation a few weeks from now. this is frustrating.

15 zack   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:41 pm

[14] Exactly my fear.

16 The Hawk   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:41 pm

[13] I kind of know what you mean, but it's only the 2nd inning. Barring a meltdown from Sabathia, we are still in a position to win the game. Ya know?

Personally I can't wait till CC starts throwing strikes with regularity.

17 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:42 pm

so frustrating to see CC not getting it going yet. (of course he will soon enough)

18 zack   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:45 pm

[16] Well of course they are in position to win the game. But with crappy weather, being down 3-0, and facing a good young unseen lefty, the prospects are dim. And doesn't it just seem like they are scuffling everywhere?

19 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:45 pm

GOJIRRA!!!!

20 zack   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:45 pm

But good thing NYS is such a bandbox! :)

21 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:46 pm

guess he's not dead yet.

22 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:46 pm

DA MELKMAN DELIVERS!

23 Yankee Fan in Boston   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:47 pm

there's a lag on my mlb.tv feed, but i think i like the sound of this.

24 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:47 pm

"Yay" @ back to back HR's!

25 rbj   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:47 pm

That's better.

26 zack   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:47 pm

Oh God, Ransom is awful

27 Yankee Fan in Boston   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:48 pm

[16] the hawk knows of what they speak.

28 Yankee Fan in Boston   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:49 pm

[26] i feel sorry for the kid. he's so overmatched and has to fill in for one of the greatest of the era.

29 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:49 pm

[23] watching the HD feed?

30 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:50 pm

[26] [28]

it's time to just try playing Pena, he's at least looked like he might get a hit when he's at the plate.

31 Yankee Fan in Boston   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:50 pm

[29] yes. it always seems a few pitches or so behind, at the very least.

32 Cliff Corcoran   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:51 pm

How are the Yankees scuffling again? They're 8-3 in games not started by Chien-Ming Wang.

33 thelarmis   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:53 pm

cliff - congrats on the press box and thanks for the live blogging! we'll cheer for ya! at first, i was thinking SI set you up, but it makes sense it's SNY.

that makeup date, i believe should be Thursday, July 23, NOT 21st, as written. i know you're typing on the fly. The 21st, we're home against BallTumor (Oreo's); the 23rd, is an offday, before the A's come to town.

Mats! Leche! C'mon CC, get it together!

Twinkies managed a single run...whoopdie-doo.

I'd give the Giambino the same hand he's getting - nice, but not overly displayed...

34 Alex Belth   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:54 pm

Wow, that Melky shot and the Suzuki one just didn't seem like they were crushed.

35 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:56 pm

[31] i could deal with a few pitches ... when i watch it, it's usually at least a batter behind.

it's more or less useless if i want to chatter and watch the game simultaneously ...

36 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:57 pm

OH FOR FUCK'S FUCKING FUCK!!!

37 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:58 pm

[31] you'll know when you get to [36]

38 zack   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:58 pm

[32] But they are 8-6 overall. You can't take those games away, as Wang is a central part of this team. Heck, in games not started by Kennedy and Hughes last season, the Yankees were 14-9. But beyond that, Sabathia, Tex, Ransom, Matsui, Joba, Ransom, and Gardner are all scuffling.

39 zack   ~  Apr 22, 2009 1:59 pm

And then there are plays like that...

40 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:01 pm

well, that was a mess of an inning.

41 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:01 pm

With respect to fans at the new stadium, I'm reminded of that Bugs Bunny episode where, he's "performing" in a Vaudeville fashion inside a medical auditorium, and the doctors in the audience are, shall we say, "skeptical" and "not amused"...

42 thelarmis   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:06 pm

[36] i couldn't have said it better myself, though i wish i had said it! well done, cult!

43 Cliff Corcoran   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:06 pm

8-6 = .571 winning percentage. With Wang unable to get past the first inning and Alex Rodriguez on the DL and a few other things not working. I don't see the problem.

44 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:07 pm

CLETUS!

45 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:07 pm

Hilarious Tex hit. Looked like all of Pedroia's hits.

46 zack   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:10 pm

Cliff do you really feel like the Yankees are playing well and to their ability? I would assume you think they are capable of far better baseball, record not withstanding (and again, the winning percentage at this early stage fluctuates so much, that a loss today puts them on pace for 87 wins.

Of course not having A-Rod hurts, and those "few other things not working" is exactly the point. They are hardly firing on all cylinders.

I will gladly, gladly, eat my words if they finish April more than two games over .500...

47 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:13 pm

And Swisher tries to make Tex look cool by doing an Ortiz slide...

48 Cliff Corcoran   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:13 pm

My point is they're not playing their best and they're still winning, so they're almost sure to get better and better than winning is winning a lot. I don't see the problem.

49 rbj   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:13 pm

Brand new ballgame.

50 yankeefanintexas   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:17 pm

New to this blog. I love it. Thanks for the play by play of the game. It's a nice way to keep up with the Yanks while I am working here in Texas!

51 zack   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:18 pm

[48] I guess its a difference in usage of the word "scuffling." To me, its precisely "not playing your best," which usually either evens out or catches up to you. Last season, they pretty much didn't play their best all year. The year before, they didn't play their best and dug themselves a huge hole.

I do take consolation in the fact that they are playing better than 2007 at this point and there isn't the Red Sox running away with things. On the other hand, after 16 games last season, the Yanks were two games over .500...

Oh well

52 The Hawk   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:21 pm

The Yankees offense has been pretty darn good when all is said and done. They've had decent pitching, other than Wang. Obviously he's part of the team, but he single-handedly sunk their battleship three times (and Sabathia once) ... Baseball's a weird game, depending as it does on the pitcher. So while they can survive Cody Ransom, Wang's troubles really affect their record. All that taken into account, I think the team is playing well.

*Ransom striking out on three pitches after back-to-back HRs was classic. I honestly think the team is good enough without A Rod ... It's just about getting Ransom out of there.

53 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:23 pm

What happened, did Damon miss a fly ball? Or what was Ken talking about when he said "the crowd holds its breath..."?

54 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:26 pm

Yay Captain Derek!

55 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:26 pm

DA CAP'N!

56 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:26 pm

Oh, sweet. Jeter deposits it right on the spot where his monument will someday be.

57 zack   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:27 pm

Damn, this stadium has seen some SHOTS!

58 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:27 pm

[53] yes ... see Cliff's 3rd inning write up.

59 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:27 pm

Okay, I'm also watching mlb.tv and it's pretty clear that I'm not way behind.

60 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:27 pm

[53] Yes... Damon dropped an easily catchable ball before that one...

61 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:28 pm

Who IS this guy?

62 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:29 pm

[58] D'oh!
My apologies Cliff -- I didn't think to read the live blogging entries before I asked the question.

63 OaktownYankeeFan   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:31 pm

What is with all of the solo homers? I am happy that the Yanks are hitting, but this year it seems like most of the Yanks' homers are solo shots.

64 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:33 pm

Yeah, [63], that's weird, huh? It must be because base runners disrupt the infamous wind tunnel effect.

(Actually, I think it's just bad luck.)

65 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:39 pm

Despite this not being a "quality start," Sabathia has certainly pitched better as he's gone along (see also Pettitte last night)!

That's a very good thing...

;)

66 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:43 pm

[65] I didn't see the beginning of the game. He does look good now (4th and 5th innings). And he's only given up three hits in five innings, after all.
Do you think there's any significance chance he can pitch more than six innings?

67 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:46 pm

CC at 84 pitches, Holiday coming. If CC can get thru the meat of the order expeditiously, he could certainly still go 7.

68 rbj   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:47 pm

[64] You don't want base runners on, they just clog the bases. Ask Dusty Baker.

69 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:47 pm

Wow, even the bleachers are empty.

I think one of the issues related to the attendence is all these damn day games. what was it, 2 night games vs 4 day games?!

70 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:48 pm

[68] Solo shots are also the reason it's so low scoring: they kill rallies.

71 yankeefanintexas   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:48 pm

Wish I was watching this live....such a good game!

72 The Hawk   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:52 pm

Seems like Sabathia's walks bite him in the ass more often than any other pitcher in history. Seems like.

73 zack   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:53 pm

5 runs in 6 innings isn't good, and I think CC's last two or so innings obscures what has been a pretty bad start. I'm not worried about him at all, but he needs to command his pitches a lot better. Which he will...

74 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:55 pm

[66] I don't see why not RIY, especially since Girardi said in his last manager's show that 120 will be Sabathia's "100" from start to start until that changes...

75 The Hawk   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:55 pm

I dunno, he hasn't been all that sharp, but you know, a three run homer and an unearned run ... I don't think he's pitched that poorly. What if Damon caught that ball? Sabathia hasn't made a lot of great pitches but sometimes you only need one bad pitch to louse things up.

76 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:58 pm

Welcome Yankees fan in Texas! These folks at Banter sure "know their baseball!" That's why I came here, too! That and it's really a very funny place...

:)

77 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 2:59 pm

Well Melky's had a nice enough small sample season so far

78 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:02 pm

And there ya go, the running game costs us a run.

79 OldYanksFan   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:02 pm

"But beyond that, Sabathia, Tex, Ransom, Matsui, Joba, Ransom, and Gardner are all scuffling."

Sabathia - Still better then his April 2008. You KNOW he will come around.
Tex - has a bad wrist. You KNOW he will come around.
Ransom - 2 weeks notice. Can you hold your breath?
Matsui - He's all but done. I consider anything he gives us a bonus... but maybe he will surprise me.
Joba - It's impossible not to have unrealistic expectations. He's still the best #5 around... and will be better then that.
Ransom - Again? Yeah, he's been that bad.
Gardner - He's a marginal player. What we are getting is about what to expect.

Andy and AJ are the only ones to pitch up to expectations.
ARod's being out was going to hurt. Did anyonr imagine differently?
Nady being out doesn't help.
Matsui has, and will continue to, contribute little.

I think all in all we are doing fine. We are NOT behind the Sox or TB, so I can't complain. They could certainly play better, but that's always the case. This is a 'warm weather' team.

Cano, Mo and Po are all good. That bodes very well for us.

80 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:02 pm

You have got to be kidding me. Why not PR with Gardner if they insisted on running.... damnit!

81 thelarmis   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:02 pm

and ransom with his 4th 2-bagger of the young season!

82 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:03 pm

Beauty.

83 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:04 pm

Yay Captain Derek... again!

84 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:05 pm

Michael Kay with the relevant, interesting stat! (Jeter 5 for 6 with RISP)

85 thelarmis   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:05 pm

El Capitan!

86 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:05 pm

Jeter = 5-6 with two outs and RISP to date...

Egads that's "superior!"

;)

87 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:06 pm

BooYa!

Of course not running into that out would've meant a much more comfortable 2 run lead right about now.

But again, this team has fight!

88 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:07 pm

[87] So would having Jeter bat behind Damon instead of vice versa... but who's counting?

89 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:08 pm

Oops. Cancel [88] please!

90 thelarmis   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:08 pm

i'm digging this!

91 thelarmis   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:09 pm

[87] 2-run lead, comin' right up! : )

92 yankeefanintexas   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:09 pm

Way to go Jeter!!!!

93 The Hawk   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:10 pm

[70] Isn't it kind of impossible for solo home runs to be rally-killers? I mean, by definition, there's no one on base so there's no rally, and thus, nothing to be killed.

94 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:10 pm

[91] Well, since that worked so well, a 5 run lead would be cool too...

95 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:11 pm

[93] Blowhard announcers disagree

96 thelarmis   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:11 pm

[94] no problem, bro - i'm working on that potion right now! muwahahaha!!!

97 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:12 pm

Tex - has a bad wrist. You KNOW he will come around.

he's also been a friggin' hoover at 1st.

98 Yankster   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:12 pm

I wish I could see Steve Goldman's face every time the capt. comes up big with an HR or a RISP hit. I won't rant, but I want to rant! Jeter has been sharp the whole way so far. And he's been classy with the responses to questions like, "Do you think you are hurting the team with your limited range?"

To the Jeter haters (not that there are any here) find me a free agent shortstop with better wins added - then we can talk.

99 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:12 pm

Is 5 for 6 with two outs and RISP... wait for it...

"Jeterian?"

Sorry Alex...

LOL

100 yankeefanintexas   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:16 pm

"98. Yankster"

I totally agree with EVERYTHING you said!!!!!

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101 thelarmis   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:18 pm

fucking bollocks.

102 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:19 pm

Bleh @ Sabathia's reverting to early on in this start... hence the boos...

Maybe a bit gassed, I wager.

103 thelarmis   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:20 pm

4 walks and 6 earnies...is NOT very good, i'm afraid. : /

104 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:20 pm

ya know, the brewers could ride sabathia like a rented mule, BECAUSE HE WAS A RENTED MULE.

great job managing this inning by Joey Joe Joe ...

105 zack   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:20 pm

YOu know Joe, getting 7 innings out of your starter is only a good thing when hes, you know, pitching well...

106 yankeefanintexas   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:21 pm

Why didn't he pull CC earlier?!?!?!?! Damn...seems like it would have been smarter to pull him before Giambi...like Cliff thought he was gonna do....

107 Yankster   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:22 pm

[100] I like the new guy/gal! Can we keep him?

First person here to ever agree with me!

Welcome Yankeefanintexas

108 yankeefanintexas   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:23 pm

I'm a girl...and THANKS!!!!

109 rbj   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:27 pm

[108] Welcome!

This is one of those Chip & Dale games: "You take the lead" "Oh no, I couldn't possibly" "No, no, I insist" "After you".

Good thing the Yanks have last licks.

110 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:28 pm

Well perhaps Girardi has learned today to pay more attention to results, rather than to pitch counts...

A's hitters did hit him quite hardly for the most part, except for his better few frames.

With new players, clearly it's still "learn as you go"...

111 The Hawk   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:28 pm

Aside from length, which means ... something, this is a terrible start by Sabathia. He now has two to Wang's three. Again, he puts in the innings but come on. Awful, awful job. Yeah some of it is on Girardi and believe me I'd like to take that sourpuss to the woodshed, but this is mainly a bad job by CC.

How much do they want to squeeze out of this offense in one game? Christ, save some for the weekend.

112 OldYanksFan   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:31 pm

Swish looks in the zone........

113 OldYanksFan   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:32 pm

Ya gotta love Swisher. Was creaming the strikes, yet still settled for the BB.

114 rbj   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:33 pm

Heh, saw the 1834 reference Cliff. Abbott played a pretty good game of townball.

115 OldYanksFan   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:35 pm

Wow... RCNB strikes again.

116 yankeefanintexas   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:36 pm

I wish Matsui would show us something this year. I really like him...I wish it didn't seem like things are pretty much over with him.

117 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:36 pm

I believe that's why Girardi let him come back out, pitch count was "low" (for him), and he was trying to save the BP for Boston.

In the future, I hope Girardi limits his trust when Sabathia is struggling and so inconsistent.

Save those 120 pitch efforts for when he's pitching well right away and has some more economical innings than a mere two or three.

That's what I "learned" anyway...

;)

118 zack   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:37 pm

Sure is too bad there was no PH for Melky

119 tommyl   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:38 pm

Brett Gardner is a best PH?

120 rbj   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:38 pm

Grrr. And Cody up at the plate now. Don't need a GIDP.

121 rbj   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:38 pm

Oh, good, Brett's in.

122 zack   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:39 pm

Tells you something about your bench when Gardner is your PH

123 tommyl   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:39 pm

This has got squeeze written all over it

124 The Hawk   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:39 pm

I don't really blame Melky too much ... He's trying to make an impression on one of his few start days. Admittedly, I'm a Melky guy.

However it is hilarious that Gardner is brought in to PH for anyone ... but I guess that's why God invented Cody Ransom.

125 tommyl   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:40 pm

Oh COME ON

126 The Hawk   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:40 pm

Doesn't Gardner look terrible? He's awful to watch sometimes.

127 tommyl   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:40 pm

Can we all now please agree we need Alex?

128 zack   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:40 pm

Just terrible

129 yankeefanintexas   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:41 pm

Come on Jeter baby!

130 rbj   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:42 pm

[127] Yes. At least it wasn't a GIDP.

131 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:42 pm

Pinch hitting WITH Brett Gardner... How embarrassing!

132 Yankster   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:44 pm

Suspense here is killing me. Jeter can't always be successful. And it was a ball...

133 zack   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:44 pm

Yup, that was awesome.

134 OldYanksFan   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:44 pm

Jetes swings at ball 3 (shoulder high) and poops out! Cap'n Crutch?

135 monkeypants   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:44 pm

Well, that was all a let down.

136 rbj   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:45 pm

Grumble grumble grumble. Bases loaded, no outs and you don't score? Bad Yankees, bad Yankees. No cookie for you.

137 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:45 pm

Melky's approach at the plate changes with RISP. Jeter has come through enough to get a pass. Gardner is not a ML hitter. Neither is Ransom.

138 monkeypants   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:45 pm

[134] What, the go ahead HR and go ahead 2B weren't enough?

139 yankeefanintexas   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:45 pm

well, he can't do it every time

140 tommyl   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:46 pm

Can't blame Jeter here, he's already delivered twice in this game. That's on Bretty and Melky. Ugh. I'd have bunted with Brett, Robbie can run pretty well.

141 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:46 pm

Gardner and Ransom have shown me that they can't hit major league pitching... the way major league hitters can.

While "any offense from Ransom may be a 'bonus,'" while A-Rod is away, any Yankees starting CF cannot continue to "hit" in this fashion...

Bases loaded with nobody out and failing to score is just "God Awful!"

142 monkeypants   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:46 pm

[137] Melky's AB was by far the worst of the inning.

143 tommyl   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:47 pm

Did Jeter just get to a ball hit to his left?!

144 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:47 pm

[142] True, but I think he has shown more at the plate than Gardner.

145 monkeypants   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:48 pm

[143] And earlier he got to one deep in the hole to his right. All in all, he's been looking pretty good in the field and at the plate. For a guy who is washed up, that is.

146 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:49 pm

[143] Yes, but it took him too long to be able to throw the runner out.

147 zack   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:49 pm

I don't think you can say that Gardner can't hit ML pitching. Especially considering how long Melky has gotten to prove just that. Gardner has certainly shown himself thus far to be scuffling.

148 Yankster   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:49 pm

With two outs the only option is a hit, but melky and gardner were free to sac somebody in, and that's a whole different level of fail.*

*not that I, or any other mortal could do it.

149 monkeypants   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:49 pm

[144] That may be so. I'm just talking about that particularly inning. Melky's AB was killer, swinging at 2 balls at his eyes. At least Gardner swung at something that looked like strikes.

150 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:51 pm

[147] His swing is awful He's not using his legs like he did in ST. So even when he makes contact, he's unlikely to drive the ball. Melky, otoh, has been an .800 OPS hitter for substantial portions of a season.

151 Yankster   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:53 pm

With the Rut sox up 10-1 in the eighth - rain delay. What are the odds they'll call this one with an eye to the mercy rule? Would suck for us given the bullpen preservation.

152 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:55 pm

Nice job by Alby.

153 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:55 pm

ALBIE!!!

154 zack   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:57 pm

[150] Well, that would imply that he is in a slump and has his mechanics off, as opposed to not being able to hit ML pitching. And claiming that Melky "has been an .800 ops hitter for substantial portions of a season" is a ridiculous argument. He did that in what, three months in 2007? The rest of the time he's been atrocious. I'm not saying Gardner is better than Melky, neither seems to be much good, but saying Gardner can't hit ML pitching because you think his swing looks off is premature at best.

155 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 3:58 pm

Attaboy! How big has this (big) kid been coming up lately!

156 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:02 pm

Just want to say: I was screaming "SQUEEZE!" when Brett came in to pinch hit. Damn.

And damn Teixeira too. This time.

157 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:03 pm

Leadoff walk MUST result in run. Must! The Banter implores you Yanks!

158 Yankster   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:03 pm

On Gameday this is the first pitcher today to consistently get called strikes that are clearly outside the box. either it's set up wrong or there's something deceptive about the delivery that gets him the favorable call.

159 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:08 pm

[154] I would agree if he had a sufficient body of work on the ML level to prove that he can hit on a consistent basis. Since he doesn't, it makes no sense to call it a slump.

You are mistaken. Melky put up an .841 OPS from the end of April until the beginning of September in 2007.

That's two thirds of a ML season, which is a fairly large sample size, irrespective of what you call it.

160 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:10 pm

"I don’t think you can say that Gardner can’t hit ML pitching."

I certainly can, because he has appeared overmatched more often than not so far...

Scuffling is one thing (see Giambi who is still hitting the ball hardly and working counts). Being consistently overmatched is another.

Not every pitcher in the majors is Sandy Koufax, but they are up at that level for a reason.

It seems as though anything they get from Gardner offensively "is a bonus" in a Ransom-type fashion. That's hardly good enough for any Yankees starting CF... regardless of his speed and glove in the field.

161 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:10 pm

Brutal

162 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:10 pm

Mariano Rivera in a tied game!
Girardi flashes some IQ.

163 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:14 pm

Take-out slide did its job there.

164 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:16 pm

Yeah Rob!!!

Olkay, Swish FTW....

165 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:16 pm

Wow @ Robbie!

166 thelarmis   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:16 pm

Moses!

167 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:16 pm

Cano has range no matter what some mediots say.

168 yankeefanintexas   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:17 pm

"Rivera’s in for the Yankees, as he should be. “Enter Sandman” doesn’t have the same impact in a tie game, however."

hahaha...so true!

169 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:18 pm

[167] I don't get that at all. No way does Pedroia get to that ball, much less make that play!

170 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:19 pm

When Cano hits good, he fields good. mm mm good.

171 thelarmis   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:19 pm

Swish at the dish - end the game, buddy!

172 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:21 pm

Too bad we can't pinch run with Brett now.

173 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:21 pm

Plate discipline rocks.

174 thelarmis   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:21 pm

i'll take a leadoff walk. c'mon Mr. Mats!

175 thelarmis   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:22 pm

fuck. and. shit.

176 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:23 pm

Thanks, Melky.

177 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:24 pm

No way they can waste 3 straight leadoff men on (first time bases LOADED no outs)...

178 yankeefanintexas   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:24 pm

Geez.....Melky!!!

179 thelarmis   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:24 pm

boo.

180 yankeefanintexas   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:26 pm

damn

181 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:26 pm

Oh, right. Yeah, I'd much rather have Marte on the mound here than Mo for a second inning.

/irony

182 thelarmis   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:27 pm

i don't have a good feeling about marte. i'm still scratching my head at the 3 years and all those dollars...

183 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:27 pm

Here we go.

184 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:28 pm

Perfect. Good call, Girardi.

185 thelarmis   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:28 pm

yeah, i love me leadoff walks from my relievers. love 'em! : /

186 thelarmis   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:28 pm

Mo threw, what - 13 pitches?

187 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:29 pm

Now Marte is "scuffling," as I understand the term...

188 The Hawk   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:29 pm

Melky's pressing ... Trying to get his old job back, I'm sure. Which he deserves, I think. He looked bad at the plate but as I say, he was just trying too hard. Gardner's swings on the other hand look like they were designed for some other game, something I've never heard of. Played on the moon maybe?

They did say Melky's .340 with bases loaded.

I blame Girardi for everything.

189 thelarmis   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:29 pm

can we pinch hit Melky or Matsui for Suzuki? please?!

190 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:30 pm

Well, based on the Yanks' last 3 innings, leadoff walks lead to zero runs with certainty.

191 thelarmis   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:30 pm

wow, a pinch runner inserted by a former Yankees catcher managing the ballgame today. what a concept!

192 OaktownYankeeFan   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:30 pm

marte makes me nervous

193 thelarmis   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:31 pm

"I blame Girardi for everything."

wow, the Torre era is seemingly waaaaay in the rear view mirror. as, i guess, it should be... Bobby V up next?

194 tommyl   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:32 pm

I know it seemed like an ok trade at the time, but everytime Ohlendorf pitches well, Tabata hits well and Marte pitches like this I want to hit my head against a wall.

195 thelarmis   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:32 pm

Marte's 21 ERA, looks downright slim next to Wang's...

196 tommyl   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:33 pm

Way to hold that runner and throw a crappy pitch.

197 thelarmis   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:33 pm

[194] not sure if it was the same trade, but Karstens is doing pretty well for the Bucs, also...

198 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:33 pm

[193] #23...Don Mattingly...#23 ;)

199 The Hawk   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:33 pm

[193] I was kind of kidding, but also I don't really like Girardi too well. Not a big fan.

BTW, yall, Matsui's doing well of late. Last I saw today his OBP was over .400 and he's hitting a lot better too.

200 thelarmis   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:34 pm

Marte has already thrown as many pitches as Mo, and has ZERO outs to show for it. wonderful. : /

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201 tommyl   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:35 pm

oh no, mix and matching. This never works out well.

202 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:35 pm

Marte is pitching okay, so we'd better try another reliever.

203 The Hawk   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:35 pm

I like ol' Edwar. When he blows it, it's not pretty, but when he's on it's fun to watch.

204 The Hawk   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:35 pm

[202] Nice

205 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:35 pm

[202] was just my sarcastic way of saying [201].

206 thelarmis   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:36 pm

[199] i knew you were kidding! and, i hear ya on Joey Joe Joe... and, yes, i noticed that about Godzilla's OBP, as well - he's not doing too terribly...

[198] i love donnie, just don't know how good he'd be at managing our squad. i think i might like Pena before him. Bobby V, might be worth a look...

207 thelarmis   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:36 pm

finally!

208 thelarmis   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:37 pm

i've got to leave to go teach in a minute. i sure hope i'm not in a bad mood...

209 thelarmis   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:38 pm

1 more out. thank you, please!

210 standuptriple   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:39 pm

Joe's just getting "everybody some work" before the trip to Boston.*

*at the expense of the W?

211 OldYanksFan   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:42 pm

A soft tosser for Crosby? R there better choices?

212 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:42 pm

Good job, Edwar.

213 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:42 pm

We have to score now avoid using Veras.

214 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:43 pm

Now we can have Bruney pitch the eleventh if nec., right? So maybe two tries to win it.

If Brett could manage a walk, I bet we could drive him in.

215 thelarmis   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:44 pm

nice! i'm off to work. it'll be hours and hours before i find out the final...

GO YANKS!!!

216 standuptriple   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:45 pm

Is it possible for them to leave more men on base?

217 standuptriple   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:46 pm

[214] Brett already missed his chance.

218 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:47 pm

[217] You mean in the seventh?

219 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:48 pm

Tex FTW...

220 standuptriple   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:49 pm

Yup. I'm so tired of the LOB.

221 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:50 pm

How about a Tex walkoff?

222 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:50 pm

Or not...

223 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:51 pm

In retrospect, Michael Kay's "Johnny Damon is the only thing standing between a win and the eleventh" was particularly nonsensical.

224 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:53 pm

Is Bruney unavailable?

225 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:55 pm

Good thing Melky stole that base. or not.

226 standuptriple   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:56 pm

21 LOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

227 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:57 pm

Po!

228 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:57 pm

Awesome.
Love that Jorgie.

229 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:59 pm

Uh oh

230 standuptriple   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:59 pm

[228] Hear hear! Or should I say Hip Hip? Either way, it's great to feel like the arm is healthy.

231 The Hawk   ~  Apr 22, 2009 4:59 pm

No Veras. Please

232 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:01 pm

Oh no, Veras.

233 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:03 pm

*shocked*

Step up, Veras.

234 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:05 pm

Whew.
We survive another round of Bullpen Roulette.

235 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:08 pm

[234]

pity it seems that Girardi keeps insisting on adding more rounds to the cylinder and trying again ...

236 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:08 pm

Jorge FTW...

237 Raf   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:11 pm

[236] jinx!

238 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:11 pm

Walkoff Robbie?

239 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:12 pm

Or not...

Sigh...

240 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:12 pm

[238] jinx!

241 The Hawk   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:15 pm

I get the sense they're all trying to end it with one swing.

Not good.

242 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:18 pm

At least Swisher is still available for an inning or three...

;)

243 Mattpat11   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:18 pm

The longer this game goes, the more likely Girardi is to get bored and make a MOVE, so the Yankees need to win this inning.

244 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:18 pm

Turns out the Oakland bullpen is indeed quite good. ugh. But good think Melky got that chance to (not) steal!

245 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:19 pm

[243] There aren't any moves left to make, dude.

246 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:20 pm

What's funny is that people are going to give Girardi credit for making "the right moves" this time, except that really what happened was that all our relievers have pitched well.

247 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:21 pm

Good job. I hope Girardi avoids the temptation to overgeneralize.

248 Mattpat11   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:22 pm

[245] He'll find one, I'm not sure there is something *quite* as stupid as pinch hitting with Brett Gardner when you need a sacrifice fly, but I'm sure he'll figure something out.

249 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:23 pm

I thought the Gardner pinch hit was very smart... until it became clear that it wasn't going to be a squeeze play.

250 Raf   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:25 pm

Why look, it's our old friend Dan Geise...

251 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:25 pm

Holy shit, Dan Giese

252 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:26 pm

I forgot what a great strikeout pitcher Giese is.

253 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:26 pm

jeez...

254 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:27 pm

[250] Are you sure you don't mean "Bob Gibson?"

;)

255 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:28 pm

Define tough, Kay.

256 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:29 pm

[255] "Eating a hot dog or a hamburger with nothing on it," is about as "tough" as Kay can get!

;)

257 Mattpat11   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:29 pm

[249] I think it was a moronic move for the sake of making a move, Joe Girardi's forte.

Sending Brett Gardner up there to swing away when you need a fly ball is fucking baffling. Cody Ransom isn't going to get a hit, but neither is Gardnerand Ransom might hit the god damned ball for that 70 feet.

258 Mattpat11   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:29 pm

*more than 70 feet

259 Raf   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:30 pm

So does Veras get run out there for another inning, or does Bruney get the call?

260 standuptriple   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:30 pm

Is Wang the long man today? (Too soon?)

261 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:32 pm

i believe Steve Jackson is still on the roster, Girardi might have to break the glass ...

262 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:33 pm

[259] Neither, it looks like Steve Jackson!
I suspect something's wrong with Bruney. It makes no sense whatsoever to save him in this game.

263 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:33 pm

It's pouring in Bergen County.

264 Mattpat11   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:34 pm

[262] Is Jackson the last of the "Just give us whatever's lying around the house" Randy Johnson trade?

265 tommyl   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:34 pm

Ok, its a tie game in the 12th and the stadium is empty?!

266 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:35 pm

[264] LOL.

267 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:35 pm

Wow, very impressive.

268 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:35 pm

Veras should be the long reliever.

269 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:35 pm

Man, Po gets two bullets to the grill, on a 12+ inning day game after catching a night game. sheesh! You my boy Po!

270 Mattpat11   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:36 pm

[266] Well, its true. I mean its understandable with all the circumstances involved, but we did trade Randy Johnson and get dirt nothing in return.

271 standuptriple   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:36 pm

[269] Time for JoPo to get his...

272 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:37 pm

[269] err, 13+ innings, lost count.

Credit where due: great work from Veras. He seemed to settle down after getting going a bit. Maybe he sucks at warming up - he always walks the first guy.

273 Raf   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:37 pm

Top of the order up for the Yanks; please guys, end this game?

274 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:38 pm

[270] The worst part of it is, at least imo, that we lost Navarro.

275 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:38 pm

Sorry. Brain cramp. I conflated two trades.

276 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:39 pm

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh.

277 Mattpat11   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:40 pm

This game is never ever gonna end.

278 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:40 pm

Speaking of extras... I wonder if the Legends Seating closes "alcohol beverage service" after the seventh, the way they stop selling beer around the league...

279 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:40 pm

Come on, Johnny!

280 Mattpat11   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:40 pm

[278] Who would they be serving beer to?

281 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:41 pm

[280] Pernt taken...

282 Mattpat11   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:43 pm

Teixeria looks like someone.

283 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:44 pm

[282] He is.

284 Mattpat11   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:44 pm

Would extending Veras be the worst thing on earth? I mean, outside of this game, I'd really rather he not pitch for the next week.

285 Raf   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:45 pm

[266] Considering that he was coming off a bad season and expressed a desire to be traded home, they did decent, netting 3 arms (of one which was a veteran) and a UI.

286 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:45 pm

[284] And it would begin the process of stretching him out for a role for which he is better suited.

287 Mattpat11   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:45 pm

Just a single. Anyone.

288 Mattpat11   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:46 pm

[285] I agree there was circumstances that affected the trade. But decent is being very generous. We got crapola.

289 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:48 pm

Doomed.
We're doomed.

290 Mattpat11   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:48 pm

Michael Kay fucking sucks.

291 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:48 pm

i always liked giese last year ... maybe it was the weird little hitch in his motion where it looks like he's trying to take a standing crap without soiling himself ...

meanwhile kay nearly soiled himself on that routine fly to left that was clearly an out off the bat

292 BrianLevy2020   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:50 pm

A third inning for Veras?

"Letting a pitcher stay in too long got us into this mess. Now it's going to get us out of this mess." -- Hypothetical Girardi

293 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:51 pm

I remain sad we lost Giese. Nice little long man. Nice to have around. Arod's fault!

294 Mattpat11   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:53 pm

Kay: DRIVEN OUT DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP TO LEFT FIELD

Matt Holiday: *Doesn't move an inch* *Calmly catches ball*

295 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:54 pm

Whoa.

How come swings are Jeterian; but diving grabs are Jeteresque?

296 Raf   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:54 pm

[285] Viz, Jackson, Ohlendorf & Gonzalez, is a decent return for a then 43 year old pitcher that was coming off a bad year. Especially considering he broke down that season.

297 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:55 pm

Meet your new utility infielder

298 BrianLevy2020   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:55 pm

(We all know it's not a strikeout if Giambi doesn't swing.)

299 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:55 pm

[297] Pleased to meet you.
Meet your new long man.

300 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:55 pm

Who is this Veras and where are all these strikes coming from.

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301 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:57 pm

At the risk of being repetitive, I really think long reliever is Veras's best role.

302 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:57 pm

Holy Canoli, look at that Veras!

303 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:58 pm

Maybe Jose figures he's got to go long so 'no time to screw around, lets throw strikes'.

Or maybe it's just one of his hot spells...

304 standuptriple   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:58 pm

Kiss his Veras?

305 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 5:59 pm

[303] I think it has enabled him to relax.

306 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:00 pm

I will laugh if Boston finishes their double header and the Yankees are still playing...

307 standuptriple   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:01 pm

[306] I would not be happy with that at all.

308 BrianLevy2020   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:01 pm

MLB Gameday called the first five pitches to Swisher balls.

309 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:02 pm

bottom 14th?!? extra-inning classic I need to watch tonight OR sloppy boring game I should skip?

310 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:02 pm

[307] Nor would I... I'd still laugh though...

;)

311 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:02 pm

NO DP!

312 Raf   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:02 pm

Geise threw him a 3-1 slider... Yeesh

313 Mattpat11   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:02 pm

[296] We got a league average right handed middle reliever, Ohlendorf who is even more dime a dozen than that, an all glove middle infielder and whatever Jackson turns out to be. We got a lot of people. We didn't get anything we couldn't have gotten pillaging the garbage heap.

314 51cq24   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:02 pm

[309] depends on the outcome, right?

315 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:03 pm

[309] Hey OK! The latter is accurate, I'm afraid...

: /

316 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:04 pm

Love the Melk!

317 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:04 pm

MELKY!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!

318 tommyl   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:04 pm

YES!!! Give me some melk!

319 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:04 pm

MELKMAN DELIVERS!!!

320 Mattpat11   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:04 pm

WHOO-HOO!

321 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:04 pm

Lead off walk: not a good sign. Just kidding, surly we can squander FOUR leadoff walks...

322 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:04 pm

Meet your new starting CF...

323 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:04 pm

MELKMAN!

324 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:04 pm

[321] Dude. You were behind.

325 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:04 pm

[322] Yup!

326 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:06 pm

Well no shit!!!!

327 OldYanksFan   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:06 pm

7 IP shutout by our horrid BP!

328 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:06 pm

now THIS is a good way to wake up! Going to be a good day now!

329 Mattpat11   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:06 pm

[325] Lets not get ahead of ourselves.

330 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:06 pm

Looks like we have a new long man, utility infielder, and maybe starting CF.

331 cult of basebaal   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:06 pm

[322] fine by me, no reason not to ride the hot hand in CF.

332 ny2ca2dc   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:09 pm

Now Melky will jump back into his swinging for the fences approach, which we all know is so successful... I think the 3 Ks will be more frequent than the 2 HRs...

333 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:09 pm

[331] If Girardi starts Gardner in any of the Boston games, well I'll shit!

;)

334 OldYanksFan   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:09 pm

Does a .600 WP get you into the PS?

335 OldYanksFan   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:10 pm

That last HR was a liedrive on a fine swing. No uppercut. I'll take that swing everytime.

336 PJ   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:11 pm

Have a great rest of your evening everyone! Hopefully is doesn't last as long as that game did!

:)

337 Rich   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:12 pm

This team is running on about 5 of 8 cylinders. They can be really good.

338 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:16 pm

Sox win 10-1 over Twinkies..guess they aren dead yet after all..

339 Horace Clarke Era   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:20 pm

The walkoff was a terrific swing, yes. The swing Matsui WANTED to put on the ball (he got nothing but breaking stuff his first time up, was WAITING on a fastball, just mistimed it). What I hate? Joining the party on this ... WHY does Gardner have an uppercut swing? It makes SO little sense for his speed and body-type. They just have to be working with him on this, surely??

But yes, give Melky a couple of starts after this one. There's no bandwagon, there are just two mediocre CFs and might as well do the hot-hand thing. (Though that hack with the bases loaded, no one out, in the 7th just about killed me.) We may see them both one game.

Need to do a major cap tip to the pen, and especially Veras. Maybe even climb down for a couple of days on the Verasucks chants.

340 Mattpat11   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:29 pm

Hopefully this team never sees .500 again.

341 The Hawk   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:30 pm

Go Melky.

342 RIYank   ~  Apr 22, 2009 6:56 pm

Cliff, thanks for the four hours of live blogging. Little did you suspect that there was a full hour left of the game when you took off!

343 rbj   ~  Apr 22, 2009 8:07 pm

I had to leave after the 11th for Aikido, so Cliff gets a pass from me. Major kudos to Veras. Glad tomorrow is an off day, though traveling from NY to Beantown in this day and age isn't too difficult.

344 seamus   ~  Apr 22, 2009 11:15 pm

i signed off in the 13th for disc golf. I was happy to see the win. I'm either working (and have difficulty plugging into in-game posts) or am watching mlb-tv (and cannot participate because I am way behind). Kind of stinks. BUT go Yankees!!!

345 thelarmis   ~  Apr 22, 2009 11:20 pm

[344] i signed off in the 10th, i think, as i had to go to work. VERY happy 'bout the win - go Leche! sounds like Veras did well. gonna go check the recap/box...

346 Mattpat11   ~  Apr 23, 2009 12:50 am

I am glad that the Yankees got through this A's series quickly and in two games. I want to face a team with three (now four) home runs on the season about as much as I want to face a team on a ten game losing streak. Just get the hell out of the way and hope the time bomb goes off in someone else's lap.

347 Mr. OK Jazz TOKYO   ~  Apr 23, 2009 1:21 am

"We're done talking about seats."--Randy Levine

I think i will make that my new signature for all emails!
Randy Levine, and asshole thou truly are.

One thing about the Boss, if he were still healthy this would have been changed by now. One order from him and it'd be done..

348 Shaun P.   ~  Apr 23, 2009 2:53 am

What a day to have been in the car all afternoon - a liveblog of the game, by Cliff, from the pressbox!

I got lucky and caught Melky's second home run on MLBN when I got home. I'm glad the Yanks pulled it off, especially with Boston coming up, a lot would have stung.

349 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 23, 2009 5:35 am

[347] He may come off as an a-hole, but I sure wish that was the mantra of Bronx Banter. I'd much rather be talking about what's going on the field instead of who isn't in the stands.

350 monkeypants   ~  Apr 23, 2009 5:55 am

[349] Levine's job is to talk about seats. As for the Banter, yes, what goes on between the lines is more important than the empty seats. But honestly William, I think you have to allow a little time for all of the steam that has built up about the new stadium to blow off. So far just about every negative fear about the new yard has come true. The empty seats from dugout to dugout, visible on every pitch and every play, every pan of the camera, only reinforce what lots of folks here complained about for weeks: the exclusionary pricing. This was defended because "the market would bear it," and yet that has proven to be untrue.

From my perspective, I would prefer bantering about the game. But at the same time, I hope that public and media pressure continues to be aimed at the bastards who run the organization, so that maybe--just maybe, but i hold little hope--they might change some of their polices in the future. So, screw you, Randy Levine.

351 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 23, 2009 7:07 am

[350] I guess I just don't see why this issue is such a big deal. Given the state of the economy, it now seems clear that $900 to $2,650 isn't optimal if you want to sell out the section. Fine...let's assume they slash the prices to $300 to $500. I am sure that would do the trick. But, what would be accomplished. The same rich people that everyone so despises would still be sitting in the seats...they just wouldn't be paying as much.

While it might "look bad" to have emtpy seats, we don't know if it isn't an economically optimal situation. Afterall, you only have to sell 1 $2500 seat to make up for the 10 seast you might sell at $250.

Also, if we are going to talk about what the market will bear, I think the $12 to $30 seats could all sell for higher (my $25 seat in Sec. 423 of the grandstand is excellent and I'd pay more for it). So, is the solution to charge the rich less and the "average fan" more?

In other words, all of the complaints seem to lose sight of reality and forget that the Yankees do pour a lot of the revenue they take in back onto the field. After all, this off season, most of us didn't just pine for C.C. or Burnett or Teixeira...we wanted (demanded) all three! You might say "screw you Randy Levine", but I look at him as someone who has helped to make such acqusitions possible.

Finally, I have been to the Stadium to five times and think it is an outstanding facility. Sure, I wish I could sit behind the plate and it'd be nice if kids could go down to the field level before a game, but there are way too many other positives to warrant the former two being the main story (especially because it stands to reason that both will eventually be corrected).

352 RIYank   ~  Apr 23, 2009 7:25 am

While it might “look bad” to have emtpy seats, we don’t know if it isn’t an economically optimal situation. Afterall, you only have to sell 1 $2500 seat to make up for the 10 seast you might sell at $250.

It can't be economically optimal.
First, it cannot possibly be more profitable than simply leaving those (empty) seats out of the construction project in the first place. Think of Camden Yards. So if the current pricing scheme is more profitable than one in which they sell all their seats, then they should have built a smaller stadium.

Second, in the current market they could just auction the unsold seats at stubhub. That would plainly be more profitable than leaving them unsold.

Given the situation the Yankees are in now, there are probably good economic reasons that they have not yet dropped the prices or auctioned the unsold tickets -- I mean, they are trying to make a profit, and I'm sure Randy Levine is very good at that. But to get into a situation like this they had to have made some pretty serious mistakes.

353 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 23, 2009 7:31 am

[352] You can't build a stadium to accomodate a recession. Just because all the premium seats are selling this year, doesn't mean they wont once the economy turns around. I know a lot people think Wall Street will never return to its lavish ways, but the same has been said after every recession.

You also can't auction the seats. For starters, the season ticket agreements may have stipulations that the team can not undersell the same seats to other customers. Secondly, it would be a bad precedent to set...one that would hamper future efforts to sell premium seats. Again, the Yankees have to take a long-term position, not adopt knee jerk policies to avoid "looking bad".

I think the only way you could argue that the Yankees have made "pretty serious mistakes" if you can show that they'd be making more money under another pricing plan.

354 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 23, 2009 7:38 am

[352] One more note on building a smaller Stadium...the Yankees are one of a short list who have bucked the trend of building a scaled down 40K seat Stadium. If there were fewer seats, maybe the premium level would have more exclusivity? Or, maybe without so many cheaper seats, the team could charge more on the lower priced tickets to offset the high prices of the premium? Furthermore, should the Yankees ever struggle again, having those extra 10k seats will hamper the Yankees' advance sales because the supply will be ample.

Judging by the many of the criticisms, perhaps the Yankees should have scaled back further?

355 monkeypants   ~  Apr 23, 2009 7:44 am

[351] Look, I'm not going to argue with you about this. We've gone around in circles on it before. i will make, however, two observations. First, it is not an either/or proposition. We (everyone) can talk about the game on the field and gripe about other aspects of the sport, including the seating, etc of the new stadium. So, I don't why the issue being such a big deal with others is such a big deal for you.

Second, I will note that when I raised the notion that the Yankees were catering to a smaller, wealthier clientele at the expense of the "average" fan, you poo-pooed the notion. Yet in this very post (and some of your recent posts on the topic) you have noted how just one $2500 seat is worth ten $250 seats (by extension, one hundred $25 seats), as a justification, or at least explanation, for the hierarchical pricing regime. So in effect, you are making my case for me--the Yankees have decided that selling a handful of super-expensive season ticket packages is the way to go.

I don't know if there is a "solution" to the ticket pricing. You are unbothered by the Yankees decision to build a stadium that caters to $2500 seat-holders and sports bar patrons, at the expense of fans pushed farther from the action or tucked behind said restaurant. You claim that this is not bad because it keeps the price of tickets down for the rest of us, which is at best only half true, given that the cost of NON-PREMIUM seats at the new stadium increased 76% this year. You defend the pricing by citing the salaries paid to free agents--yet the team salary is actually lower this year than last, suggesting that thee very same free agents could be had without ALL of the new revenue streams that the new stadium provides.

But all of this is really besides the point. People are frustrated, I think, that the stadium holds fewer people, that more than 1000 of them are stuck behind a restaurant, that the same restaurant also buries monument park, that a significant portion of the seating is reserved for extremely expensive seats, which effectively reduces the "real" seating capacity of the stadium further, that most of the restaurants that have been added (amenities "for the fans") are exclusive, that the concourses were originally exclusive (until the Yankees buckled under public pressure), that now fucking batting practice is exclusive. And BTW, why does it stand to reason that this will be "corrected"?

356 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 23, 2009 7:59 am

[355] [355] I am not saying it's a big deal...I made one post to which you responded. I didn't perceive your reply as being argumentative, so I am not sure why my follow-up gave you that impression. Being a blog, I figured this was a good forum for discussion...I am just surprised that who isn't at the game seems to be a bigger issue than what happens at the game.

Without arguing, I think your assertion is off base. My position is (and always has been), that the Yankees (and most entertainment options in NY) have always catered to tiers of clientele. The difference this year is the Yankees are asking the rich/corporations to pay a lot more for what they had last year (while asking average fans like me to pay anywhere from less to slightly more). Unless you think Joe Fan was sitting in the first few rows behind the plate, I fail to see how someone could argue that new pricing scheme represents a change in policy.

Secondly, your point about the Yankees always spending money meaning they don’t need to find ways to make more is kind of like penalizing the Yankees for not making the bottom line more important than wins and losses. It also ignores that the Yankees have been positioning themselves to move into this Stadium for a while now and undoubtedly have factored in the increased revenue streams when budgeting payroll.

I can understand why some people might be frustrated, but I think many of the reasons they cite are unfounded or exaggerated, especially when they come from people who have not been there. From attending 5 games, my general experience is that most people absolutely love the place. Would I prefer that the rich people who always sat behind the plate could afford the higher prices…sure…because it would mean the economy had rebounded. I am not going to let that stop me from enjoying a great ballpark.

Finally, I think the BP situation will be corrected because it makes too much sense. A combination of public pressure and the impracticality of the policy will eventually return things to how they have always been.

357 RIYank   ~  Apr 23, 2009 8:06 am

You also can’t auction the seats. For starters, the season ticket agreements may have stipulations that the team can not undersell the same seats to other customers. Secondly, it would be a bad precedent to set…one that would hamper future efforts to sell premium seats. Again, the Yankees have to take a long-term position, not adopt knee jerk policies to avoid “looking bad”.

If there is a stipulation in the season ticket holders' agreement that other seats (I don't know what you mean by "the same seats" -- obviously the Yankees cannot sell the same seats to other customers if they have already sold them to a season ticket holder!), then I'd like to see it. There is no such stipulation in the Patriots' license or agreement. It sounds like a very foolish thing for the team to do, and it provides no benefit to the ticket holder. In fact, such a clause might be unenforceable, since even if it were violated there would be no damages.
If auctioning unsold seats would hamper future efforts to sell premium seats (and I think it probably would have some such effect), and that's why the Yankees aren't doing it, then they are indeed making a choice now to avoid "looking bad"! I don't call that "knee jerk", myself; I think it's an important consideration. But it certainly shows that they made a pretty serious mistake.

Here is an alternative pricing scheme guaranteed to be more efficient than the current one.
First consider all of the sold seats such that there are no unsold seats superior to them: leave the price of these seats as it is.
Second, take all of the unsold seats that are superior to some sold seats: trade these seats to current ticket holders with inferior seats, at par. Take the vacated seats and trade them again to remaining ticket holders with inferior ones, at par.
So far this is a wash. Now you have unsold inferior seats. Set the price low enough to clear the market.

This is a Pareto superior scheme. Every party is at least as well off as under the current scheme and many are better off. The Yankees make more money, too.

If there are publicity reasons that they can't auction unsold seats, then the Yankees should attempt to approximate the scheme I outlined.

358 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 23, 2009 8:17 am

[357] I don't know if there is, but I would think that if corporations are paying 100K for a product, they'd like to have some assurances that the same commodity wont later be sold for less. Even if those covenants don't exist, it would still be a shaky business practice. Furthermore, It isn't trying to avoid "looking bad"...it's trying to avoid giving your best customers an incentive to not pay in advance.

Your scheme is creative, but I think it has several flaws. It would encourage me to buy the cheapest ticket possible with the realization that I could likely upgrade for free. I don't think that's the message a business wants to send.

359 RIYank   ~  Apr 23, 2009 8:32 am

[357] I don’t know if there is, but I would think that if corporations are paying 100K for a product, they’d like to have some assurances that the same commodity wont later be sold for less.

Why?
Corporations spend a lot more than $100k on all kinds of commodities. When a corporation buys copper futures, it does not get a guarantee that copper won't be trading lower tomorrow!

I now see what you mean by 'looking bad'. I had a broader definition. I agree that there is a difference between sending a message the provides bad incentives to your customers, on the one hand, and just trying to avoid bad publicity, on the other.

You're right that my scheme might provide bad incentives, if this same situation is likely to occur in the future. I was assuming that this is a one-time problem. If it's going to be perennial, then I think the Yankees did make a bad error in building a stadium with so many seats.

360 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 23, 2009 8:43 am

[359] Copper futures are bought in the secondary market, but Yankee tickets are bought in a primary market. Because tickets are usually sold at pre-set license fees, I'd think companies would want some kind of assurance they wont get penalized for buying early, but you are probably right. They probably would never even think teams would sell similar seats for less later on in the year. If the Yankees break that precedent, however, it might be something they pursue. More likely, the Yankees would have to offer a price protection guarantee.

If this situation persists, it could raise a lot of interesting questions. For starters, if the seats are sold, but people wont sit in them, how do you remedy that? If the seats aren't sold, the Yankees need to set prices that both fill them, but also generate an acceptable level of revenue. It's an interesting problem, but we need to remember two things: (1) we are (hopefully) exiting a significant recession and these prices were determined beforehand; (2) the Yankees have played 6 April games. In other words, I think we need more time to see how the dust will settle.

To me, the only issue that really impacts on fans enjoyment of the ballpark is the pre-game access one. I wish the media/fans/etc. would focus on that one, especially because it is the easiest issue to remedy.

361 OldYanksFan   ~  Apr 23, 2009 9:25 am

[357] is a creative and worthy idea. A corp that buys premium SEASON seats is NOT going to forgo that in hopes, that on a game by game basis, they may get better seats. Yes, we who buy the cheap seats might... but the cheap seats are probably selling out.

Also William, in terms of reading weeks of your posts, it seems like anything the Yankees have done, that may produce greater profits, is acceptable to you. You are a good capitalist. Tradition and morals don't affect your bottom line.

How many people here in their 40s and 50s still remember and treasure the days they went down on the field and got a ball, or autograph, handshake, or spoke to a player? Just how much pleasure does a parent get exposing their kids to this pleasure.

Just what is that worth? It's not profitable. It's simply a lifetime of memories for tens of thousands of fans. Again, like many things in modern life, this is something our generation has benefitted from that the next generation won't.

Baseball is indeed a business... althought one with an exemption.
It is still a great American tradition.
A Huge part of Americana.
A reveered tradition between father and son.

Baseball is a business... but it is NOT only a business.
There are other important factors that need to enter the equation.

362 OldYanksFan   ~  Apr 23, 2009 9:26 am

Meanwhile, me and my socialist buddy MP, need to burn down the new Stadium before they trash the old one.

363 RIYank   ~  Apr 23, 2009 9:30 am

The problem of sold seats that nobody sits in mystifies me.
I've heard that corporate bigwigs are worried that they'll get bad publicity if they show up and sit in those seats, but (a) that sounds pretty dubious to me, and (b) if it's true, why on earth don't they donate the seats to a charity for an auction, or something like that? Great publicity for all, good cause, etc.

364 williamnyy23   ~  Apr 23, 2009 9:43 am

[361] I think it's a little early to be questioning my morality? Fire away...just know that I don't base my moral compass on the price of baseball tickets.

As for the whimsical days of getting autographs, the reality of today is that most of people soliciting autographs probably turn right around and sell them on eBay (just like they would do with their tickets if the Yankees sold them well below market value). It seems as if being a socialist means you abhor capatalism, but only when it doesn't apply to you.

Furthermore, if the ballpark experience was so great in the 1960s and 1970s, where were all the fans? Maybe the good old days were better, but I'm sure another Old Yankee fan was saying the same thing when you were down by the field getting autographs.

[363] That sounds dubious to me, but then you read the article 9in the Post) about some corporate Big Wig's wife complaining that she can't shop at Bergdorf Goodman for fear of being photographed carrying the bags.

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