Since their sweep at the hands of the Angels to close the first half, a lot has been made of the Yankees’ struggles this year against potential playoff teams (0-8 vs. Boston, 2-4 vs. Angels, 1-2 vs. Phillies). The exception to that trend is the Detroit Tigers, who dropped two of three to the Yankees in Detroit back in late April. The Tigers have been atop the AL Central since May 10, but, tellingly, can be stung by the same criticism given their 2-7 record against the Red Sox, Yankees, and NL Central leading Cardinals.
The Tigers are a good team, but they’re not a great one. Their offense has been average, their bullpen unexceptional, and their rotation top heavy. That last is the primary reason they’ve lorded over the Central thus far this season. Despite a rough start, 26-year-old Justin Verlander is having his finest major league season having gone 10-2 with a 2.22 ERA dating back to his confrontation with the Yankees and CC Sabathia in late April. Behind him, 25-year-old Edwin Jackson is finally delivering on his prospect promise in his seventh (!) major league season, dropping his walk rate to 2.6 BB/9 and going 8-4 with a 2.26 ERA and 11 quality starts in 12 turns since May 9. Twenty-year-old rookie and Morristown, New Jersey native Rick Porcello has been solid behind those two, but Venezuelan sophomore Armando Galarraga has been inconsistent, and the fifth spot remains unclaimed.
Coming out of the break, the Yankees have the ill fortune to catch both Verlander, who will rematch with CC Sabathia tomorrow, and Jackson, who will face Joba Chamberlain on Sunday. That makes tonight’s game against 23-year-old rookie lefty Lucas French, who is making just his third big-league start, the key to the series for the Yankees. An eighth-round draft pick out of high school in 2004, French seemed to make a leap upon reaching Triple-A this year, posting his best ERA, strikeout, and walk rates since rookie ball. French made two scoreless relief appearances for the big club in mid-May and was recalled at the beginning of July to take over the fifth spot in the rotation. After a short, but solid start against the Twins, he beat Zack Greinke and the Royals his last time out by limiting Kansas City a solo homer and five other harmless hits in six innings. That was impressive, but facing the Yankees in the new Yankee Stadium will be a much better test.
The offense behind French has a slightly different look than it had when the Yankees were in Detroit in April. Most notably, a .260/.330/.343 performance has cost 2007 batting champion Magglio Ordoñez the bulk of his playing time. He’s now the short side of a right-field platoon with 25-year-old sophomore Clete Thomas (.265/.339/.500 against major league righties this year). Similarly, Josh Anderson’s glove has proven unable to sustain his bat in left field, resulting in increased playing time for backup Ryan Raburn (.269/.346/.496 on the season). The eternally fragile Carlos Guillen is back on the DL and has yielded his DH spot to power-hitting ex-Yankee Marcus Thames, who hit .344 with four homers in his last eight games before the break. Meanwhile, three pillars of the offense this year have been Miguel Cabrera (of course), Curtis Granderson (still struggling against lefties at .194/.282/.291, but plenty dangerous against righties), and, much to my amazement, Brandon Inge, who has never posted an OPS over .780 before but is having a career year at age 32, hitting .268/.360/.515 with 21 homers and 58 RBIs (against career highs of 27 and 83, both from 2006).
A.J. Burnett will reopen the second half against the dangerous version of Granderson tonight hoping to keep his pre-break hot streak alive. A.J. has posted a 1.34 ERA over his last five starts, all of which lasted at least 19 outs. The Yankee offense behind him has Hideki Matsui batting fifth followed by Jorge Posada, Robinson Cano, Nick Swisher, and center fielder Melky Cabrera.
Detroit Tigers
2009 Record: 48-39 (.551)
2009 Pythagorean Record: 47-40 (.540)
Manager: Jim Leyland
General Manager: Dave Dombrowski
Home Ballpark (multi-year Park Factors): Comerica Park (102/102)
Who’s Replaced Whom:
- Marcus Thames (DL) has replaced Carlos Guillen (DL)
- Clete Thomas (minors) has replaced Jeff Larish (minors) and has taken on the strong side of a right-field platoon with Magglio Ordoñez
- Dusty Ryan (minors) has replaced Dane Sardinha (minors)
- Lucas French (minors) has replaced Nate Robertson (DL) and taken Zach Miner’s rotation spot
- Freddy Dolsi and Fu-Te Ni (both minors) have replaced Juan Rincon and Ryan Perry (minors)
25-man Roster:
1B – Miguel Cabrera (R)
2B – Placido Polanco (R)
SS – Adam Everett (R)
3B – Brandon Inge (R)
C – Gerald Laird (R)
RF – Clete Thomas (L)
CF – Curtis Granderson (L)
LF – Ryan Raburn (R)
DH – Marcus Thames (R)
Bench:
R – Magglio Ordoñez (OF)
L – Josh Anderson (OF)
R – Ramon Santiago (IF)
R – Dusty Ryan (C)
Rotation:
R – Justin Verlander
R – Edwin Jackson
R – Rick Porcello
R – Armando Galarraga
L – Lucas French
Bullpen:
R – Fernando Rodney
R – Joel Zumaya
R – Brandon Lyon
L – Bobby Seay
R – Zach Miner
R – Freddy Dolsi
L – Fu-Te Ni
15-day DL: IF – Carlos Guillen (shoulder inflammation), RHP – Jeremy Bonderman (sore shoulder), LHP – Dontrelle Willis (anxiety disorder), LHP – Nate Robertson (mass in elbow)
60-day DL: C – Matt Treanor (torn hip labrum)
Typical Lineup:
L – Curtis Granderson (CF)
R – Placido Polanco (2B)
R – Miguel Cabrera (1B)
R – Marcus Thames (DH)
L – Clete Thomas (RF)
R – Brandon Inge (3B)
R – Ryan Raburn (LF)
R – Gerald Laird (C)
R – Adam Everett (SS)
rip rip ree
kick 'em in the knee
rip rip rass
kick 'em in the...other knee!
Mitre to start Tues vs. Oreos
let's not get URP'ed by Luke French!!!
YANKEES (51-37)
Jeter SS
Damon LF
Teixeira 1B
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Swisher RF
Cabrera CF
Pitching: RHP A.J. Burnett (8-4, 3.77)
So is Pettitte starting Monday?
That's the game I'm going to.
[3] I get to see Mitre.
I was also present for Ponson's first start. The first time around.
You look at the Detroit starters on the DL: Nate Robertson, Jeremy Bonderman, Dontrelle Willis, and then reliever Joel Zumaya having been on the DL (twice?) and you have to wonder if babying Phil and Joba the way the Yanks have is not the right move, all things considered. Even those two have had some stinnts of their own, but not like in Detroit... okay, well Willis we expected to be DL'd for an entirely different reason, but all the same Detroit would be right up there with ours and the Red Sox rotation were it not for all those injuries to key pitchers. Whaddaya think?
[5] "...is not the right move after all..."
[0] i LOVE the Iron Maiden reference in the title! : )
[3] what instrument(s) do you play?
[4] you still get to see the Yanks live in the new stadium. that's awesome!
Weekend games on tv here are Cleveland-Seatlle live at 8am (who cares, other than seeing Ichiro?!?!) and then Boston on tape delay..NO Yanks games! grumblegrumblegrumble...
[8] drink more guiness! : )
[7] It will be my fourth game this year, and my fourth totally different set of seats. I'm really looking forward to it. Soon I'll have seen the ballpark from every possible angle.
[9] it's 7:30 in the morning! and just realized am all out of espresso..doublegrumble....
[10] been in the Mohican Sports Bar yet? according to Michael Kay, it's "a great way to watch the game with friends while enjoying a wide variety of food and beverages!"
BTW, I was wondering if you guys could give me your opinion on this picture I took on June 12. I'm usually a awful photog, but I thought this came out pretty damn good.
http://tinyurl.com/ktgppm
Not bad, Matt. Crop it straight (it's a bit crooked) eliminating most of the dead space on the top and the ribbon board on the bottom and it'll look even better.
[7] Oh I can play almost instrument - poorly. ; )
The only thing I was "trained" on was trombone, and I guess violin but only tlll I was twelve. I play neither now though.
[12] I like it.
[14] i dated a trombone player in college. i had to play all the orchestral instruments, 'coz i was trained to be a band director. trombone, is SUPER difficult! there are plenty of great ones here in this city and one of 'em is a dear friend of mine.
[11] HA!!! i had no idea how early. stock the fridge now - eventually it'll be 9:30 at night! ; )
[15] Yeah when I was in high school, I think people always marveled that anyone could play the trombone, because of the slide I guess. But when it's the first or one of the first things you learn, it doesn't seem tricky at all.
Trombone players are mischievous, or at least that was my experience as a teen. Especially in an orchestra where you're sitting around a lot. On the other hand I don't think I ever knew a troublesome female trombonist.
Barbeque baby back ribs and beer at home during the game!
I hope Will's articles come through for us again tonight!
: )
Damn, he's fast.
Well, this could have started better
Robinson Cano. Wow.
Holy crap. Great pick, Robbie!
Although I suppose it could have gone worse as well
"Dontrelle Willis (anxiety disorder)"
Really? Is this baseball-speak for 'He Sucks'?
Anyone remember Soupy Sales?
He was thrown off of TV for telling a baseball joke.
Anyone know the joke?
baseballlllllllllll!!!!!
where have you been my sweet friend?
just had an early dinner of some cuban style oxtails and now time for some yankee baseball.
not even going to let aj giving up an early run worry me.
[24] Oh, dear lord, how you tantalize me! God, that sounds too delicious for words.
Mmmmmmmmmmm!
And ditto; I've not seen a game in weeks, myself.
Dear baseball.
[23] "I took my wife to a baseball game. I kissed her on the strikes, and she kissed me on the balls." - Soupy Sales
Tigers radio guys going on and on and on about the homer-happy Canyonero Stadium..we get it guys, it's a bandbox..
[26] BOO-Yah!! genius!!!
Why does Damon make those bemused, clownish faces?
Nice hit, Teix.
"just had an early dinner of some cuban style oxtails"
my favorite! ; )
The mention of Jeter being one of the senior statesmen at the ASG makes me feel.....well, past my prime. We're only a few months apart.
[25] sorry weeping; it was delicious and [29] i'm telling ya it's a lot of weed.
Clay Bucholz is throwing a perfect game against Toronto! A perfect game!! No hits no runs!! amazing, that Sox farm system, what an organization!! America's Team!!! Pink Hats and Microbrews!!! Green Monster & Neil Diamond!!!
ah that speedy granderson
How about getting that run back, please?
Heh heh heh heh. Indeed.
[16] yes, my buddy is definitely mischievous! my ex-g/f, was not - she's an all-around wonderful human being...
Matsui!
[33] free laptops for everyone! ; )
Yay!!
Nice rebound, Hideki!
(I hope Damon's not hurt.)
nice hit matsui!! good baserunning by tex too
GOJIRRA!!!!
No, he's ok. No collision.
Did they break into Japanese programming to show that hit?
Juice one, Jorgie!! Send Mr. Lucas home for his supper early!
tie game!
matsui-san!
c'mon jorgie. plate these 2 runs!!!
[33] Is that so? Wow, a perfect game is a big deal! Not everyday we see one of those!
How 'bout that. A perfect game.
Bah!
Well, we got the run back, anyway.
Hey A.J., throw effin' strikes. Thanks.
leadoff walks. i LOVE it when we hands those out... : /
Cleveland - Seattle live..but between innings they often show highlights so am sure 松井さん will be featured. Also on the nightly 30min highlight show, when not showing Fukudome ground outs on the Cubs..
Grrrr.
[51] Particularly to Josh Anderson?
OHHH, for God's SAKE!
damnit aj - if you are not going to throw strikes to home at least throw them to 2nd
watching Greg Maddux Day here in Atl. Braves just retired his #31. i LOVE Maddog. he was a total magician on the mound. i used to love watching him pitch here. i would go to his starts and make sure i didn't blink, otherwise i'd miss his entire frame. he was nothing short of amazing!!!
Leiter has a bizarre, fetish for the bases loaded raises a hitter's average a hundred points stat.
He almost sounds like Kay the way he busts it out at every opportunity.
*sigh*
holy shit, Jays got a HIT!!! clay buttholz is NOT perfect! what will ESPN do??? : o
[57] That's great, Maddux was like Thelonius Monk..you don't know how he did it because the individual parts make no sense, but the result was genius..and there was no one else like him!
[57] Burnett + Maddux's brain and control would be......sortaridiculous. : D
Fuck.
I was just about to observe that this guy chokes up a lot and lo and behold.
Pasta Jetervera?
bollocks.
gave the run right back.
damnit!
[64] Someone in Little Italy needs to come up with a Pasta DivingJeter dish.
This is not fun
well, let's get that run...again. and then some more...
[66] How about Pasta Fagioli... so good it makes you want to "dive in!"
: )
Mussina is going to be at Old Timer's Day
[57] Check this out
That was a big fat strike, Swisher.
http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/cda/recipe_print/0,1946,FOOD_9936_11974_RECIPE-PRINT-FULL-PAGE-FORMATTER,00.html
Like that, like that, ah like that chyall!
: )
And that's that.
[70] i just saw that. i wish he was gonna be on the mound Tuesday, instead of Mitre...
[70] Yeah and Paulie is missing it due to a golf tournament...
Doh!
[71] i remember reading that when it came out! thanks for the link
[70] moooooooooooooose, very cool!
One of the ESPN writers said he imagined Pastadiving Jeter to be a chicken pasta dish.
And jeez, someone actually registered the domain name and started a web site:
http://www.pastadivingjeter.com/
[73] Good thing there's no meatball in it, or you'd miss it.
Blew his funky ass away.
[80] Of course it would be brought to your table by Cervelli...
: )
Man. I thought that thing was gone off the bat.
Bleh!
URLP'd
[71] Cool. I enjoyed that immensely.
Seems that Girardi tried to get Burnett back on the mound ASAP, but he's still rusty. Or whatever he is.
The guy can't throw #$#@ing strikes. Why pitch out? OY.
Evening folks!
Oooh, nicely turned, boys.
nice dp
That works!
Yay "D"!
And to you, Diane.
Cano gets rid of that ball REALLY quick!
Yay Diane, too!
: )
[87] I would say A.J. is a bit too strong this evening from the extra time off.
[97] Yeah that's what I mean.
Its one of those games
Oh, what a terrible ab, Hideki.
Oooh, nice rope, Robbie.
Oh, God.
Blah.
Come on, Melkus!
[99] You mean another one?
Oy!
Just what we need to begin the second half... watching them get URP'd again...
Sigh.
PopaPalooza
RIP Walter Cronkite .... dead at 92.
There's nothing better than hitting a ball on the screws when you're up 2-0. : /
Aggggghhh.
Crap.
[108] Like I said. FUCK.
if i knew we were getting this aj i would have ordered another glass of wine at my dinner
[26] The thing is, you have to turn around and discuss that with your kid, assuming that old man in the trenchcoat hanging around the playground teaching kids new swearwords has already informed them of the merits and consequences of such actions. If you believe in the addage "it takes one to know one", then where do network censors go when they die? Does St. Peter recognize their efforts to maintain a high moral standard, or does he say, "eww-eww, cooties!! gross, goawaygoawaygoaway!"
Just wonderin'... >;)
[112] Surely you have something stashed away for just such occasions.
[114] i do and shall break it out - but i needed a head start for this bullshit
[115] Heh heh heh heh.
Cabrera runs like me
[113] Believe it or not folks, just a moment ago my screen showed [26] as the last comment. Either I just landed in a different time zone or I'm reeeeally slow on the uptake today; not surprising since I've worked a total of 65 hours so far this week...
ooh nice throw melky - haven't seen that in a while
You're out of there, pal!
Sit your funky ass down!
[166] :}
i'm not even much of a drinker - i was so hoping to be over the aj frustration - but i'm not sure it's possible for me
You know, for a bad start, this isn't all that bad.
We need to hit.
marchus thames?!?
i hope this is just rust
No wonder A.J. gets right up close to his unsuspecting teammates before pieing them.
[118] you(ve joined me in the future, 13 hrs ahead! wait..that makes no sense..
[124] Comment O' the night!
What's that, ten walks?
Jesus.
this guy might hurt someone tonight - he is almost at a daniel cabrera level of control
NIce break.
Ok, it's time to hit the fucking baseball, now.
lucky the tigers have only scored 3 - time to get moving offense
[125] Never mind, Jazz; just saw the light from the Ignore Button in the corner there. 'Nite folks; another night shift, another nickel.... >;)
seems like i picked the right half inning to run out for booze.
bad aj certainly does lend itself to in game drinking ...
[131] Good luck! hot Saturday morning here, some household chores and baseball, hopefully some Nigerian beer and music tonight..if Yanks lose then need to drown my sorrows, if they win will go celebrate!
[131] boo night shift. try to find a dime too so you can make a dollar.
The Yankees obviously think the All Star Break is still in affect
[132] What's your poison?
Amazing hitting, Johnny Damon.
Very, very adept.
jd slapshot - gotta love it
See, I don't understand Damon.
Anyone who can do that should be hitting .320.
He's really a puzzle as a hitter. He can do that and hit it out.
Teix!!!!
yeah to the tigers d not being so great that play
Well, that was lucky.
Very Bucknerian ....
wow.
Yo Nostralarmis, check this out, you might find it amusing/interesting/thoughtful.
Whoa!
How 'bout that!
They're choking it up!
and that one too
cabrera's gotta pick that hop ... not that i'm complaining
All right, but now we gotta cash 'em in.
Don't piss this away.
Come on, Hideki.
Hang the fuck in there.
c'mon my pr0n loving friend!
Horse.
Fucking.
Shit.
Aw jeez. Nothing you could do about that.
baah!
at least a run but damn that dp
glurgh.
At PeteAbe's live chat, someone asked if Jeter was in the top 5 SSs in history. Of course, Jeter ain't done yet, but it's an interesting thought. Where do you think Jetes end up.. history wise?
Word up, Melk!!!
OHHHHHHHH!!!
Melky!!!
Damned fine catch.
another nice dp.
gettiing through 6 with just 3 runs on the bullshit aj had tonight was actually quite an accomplishment
I thought that was dropping for sure.
[158] Isn't it, though?
A.J.'s like a harder throwing Wakefield. Except Wakefield has a better idea where his pitches are going to wind up. : )
[155]
#1 is Honus Wagner, also in the top 5 are Ozzie Smith and Cal Ripken Jr. Just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are a couple others who are ahead of Jeter. Maybe top ten.
Well struck, Jorgie!
Ok, let's do this thing now.
yes jorgie - welcome to the game detriot pen
Nice catch, dude.
[158] I'll say.
You broke my heart, Robbie.
You're killing me, here.
Nice swing, Swisher.
God damn, can't we score a lousy run?
[167] After the ASG. Small sample size. : O
And that's a Swish swish.
Damn, can't you shorten your swing up just a bit?
Christ.
No Monty Python jokes about the pitcher?
It's on you, Melkius.
c'mon clutch time melky!
[172] Heh heh heh. The pitcher who says "ni."
Melkius!!!
I hate this game.
holy fuck there was no way po was going to score on that
Saw that coming. UGH.
Oh, dear Lord.
This is killing me, folks.
Why'd they send Posada? Speedy he's not.
[175] Second Mudhen's pitcher of the night for the Tiggers.
[175]
Ni will only allow runners to score if they bring him a shrubbery.
Lead off double and then two utterly abysmal ab's by Cano and Swisher.
It's tough to win games that way, people.
Did he forget who was running?
[182] Heh heh heh heh heh!
All well and good, Al, but Jeter's on deck.
alright hughesy - shut em down
[184] Even if he did, you would think the battle it took to just get to third would have reminded him.
[184] Yeah, whatever. Send him, don't send him...that inning's on Cano and Swisher.
What's this? It's not the 8th inning.
Nicely done, Hugheshead.
[189] Fine, but don't compound their inability to get Posada home by having him get thrown out on a medium ground ball to LF. Not with Jeter coming to bat.
Dude chokes up like a foot.
That was fugly
jorgie please improve your throws to first
[192] Yeah, I know. You're right. I'm just super fucking frustrated, almost to apathy.
Nice pitching, Hughes.
[195]
Posada with a Giambi-like throw to 1B
Cabrera did not try to stretch a single into a double. He somehow turned a double into a single.
[198] Guess it shouldn't be surprising, considering he was thrown out the last time he tried.
clete seems like a baseball name; nevertheless let's get him out
Hughes is one aggressive motherfucker.
Damn!
Nicely done, Phil Hughes.
Give that man a cigar.
not that i'm complaining, but interesting that mk got some extra time off after the asb
When I saw Hughes warming in the 6th, I thought, wow, he's going to pitch 2 innings! Maybe they'll stretch him out!
Then I saw that Mitre is going to start on Tuesday. I still hope Hughes gets to pitch 2 innings.
YES Network gives up 30 seconds of commercial time to air "God Bless America". Curious.
okay, i'm back. why the fuck are we losing???
I don't like Phil stuck in the BP but DAMN! He looks like a new pitcher. I have to think this has helped his head.
[207] Yes, but he hasn't been using his changeup at all because he hasn't needed it, and that is not useful for him.
[206] 'Cause we can't hit a barn door. Leading culprits, Cano and Swisher, with plenty of extra blame to go around.
[182] But it has to be "One that looks nice, and not too expensive."
: )
alright fellas that's what's up!
Okay, if they don't score here....
C'mon guys - runs, baby!
Ok, Teix is going to get it done, presuming they pitch to him.
So, what tortuous end to this scoring opportunity will be witnessed?
Shit. 2 on, no out. Detroit has us just where they want us!
[215] a rain delay!!
[113] St. Peter, who was Jewish, was fisherman for roughly half of his life. If he was anything like the fishermen I knew, "kissing me on the balls" not only would have been rather tame, he would have laughed himself, if he knew about baseball and balls and strikes...
: )
Yay!!!
HOORAY!
fuck yeah - tex driving the score truck!!
Woohoo Tex!
[208] thanks for linking that article earlier today - good read! later on, Neyer ended up blogging about it...
must. score. two. runs.
Well, take THAT, Monkeypants [215]!!
DING DONG PITCH DEAD!!!!!!!
jusssssst back in time to here a Tex message to right!! buh-bye Zumaya!
That away, Prince William! (I heard Bill Simmons say on a podcast that Tex looks shocking like Prince William, and then I realized how right he was.)
"He sends a Teix message to the seats in right. You're on the Mark, Teixeira!"
Lord deliver us.
Thought we might see the upper deck. Nice.
or...3 runs!!!
Yay TEX!!!
Ace in the 8th. Mo in the 9th.
[221] : )
Oh, wow. How appropriate on the 40th anniversary weekend of Apollo 11. Definitely a moon shot.
Reason #1 why I hope the Yanks see the Tigers in the playoffs - their bullpen.
[228]
At least we don't have Michael "every hit begins with" Kay ...
[227] I think Simmons is really funny but his friend JackO the Yankee fan is excruciating..
I just hope we don't see Bruney next inning
[228] It could be worse.
OK, I'm lying, it doesn't get much worse than his schtick. But better to hear the game than not!
[223] My pleasure. I wonder if Neyer got it from here? =)
Seay Miner ..... not too much music written in THAT :-)
[227] hmm, i don't see tex looking like prince william.
though i'm finding simmons more tolerable these days.
[239]
well .... at least he didn't say Prince Fielder ... :-P
Do the Yankees need to complete the inning in order for these runs to count?
[240] :} hahaha
seems like po has been ab for 10 minutes
[241] It's the bottom of the inning, so I should think not.
[239] Simmons is fine on basketball and usually football. He's less than worthless on baseball.
[239] For the longest time I avoided anything he wrote or spoke about baseball. But for whatever reason, I've become fascinated by his podcasts with his Yankee fan friend JackO. They are actually entertaining. JackO and I don't agree on much - he's a Joba in the 'pen, trade whoever to get Halladay, etc kinda guy - but I really like listening to the two of them.
Sheesh, the rain is really coming down.
AJ's in-game WHIP was 2. that sucks.
Damnit
Don't see why Hughes can't come out for the 8th
Is Zumaya the last name alphabetically in ML history?
alright swish hit a hr and then mleky get out and let's finish this puppy up with hughes
[248] Because we have to "get Bruney back" to the pitcher he was for something like 10 weeks of a six year career.
It's pouring.
"oooh .... broke a nail ...."
Line of the night!
I'm not sure Zumaya is 100% healthy.
Meanwhile, Boston up 4-1 in ther 8th. If the BJs trade Halliday, they are going to bum out their fans. Personally, I think they can't win as long as they wear powder blue uniforms.
Nice and easy up the middle, Melkulous.
[251] That reminds me of Tanyon Sturtze, which makes me think of Torre.
Did you hear that Torre is batting Matt Kemp (.316/.380/.489) 8th? I just laughed when a Dodger fan friend told me.
Is Leyland taking a smoke break? How is Zumaya still in there??
[248] Well, that just shows how little you understand baseball. The reasons are numerous:
1. He's not stretched out
2. He's not the eighth inning guy, yet
3. You have to save him for tomorrow
4. It's raining
5. The bottom of this inning has been long, so he's sitting
6. You don't want to mess with a good thing and keep changing his roles
[259] Heh heh heh.
[259]
7. edpcy has to get in
[257] I posted that a while back, around the most recent fevered pitch calling for Girardi to be fired. He also has four relievers with 30+ appearances, two of whom have over 40 appearances already.
[258] the camera flashed on leyland and he had a look on his face like - screw this i'm not wasting my time walking out there just to bring some other shitbum in
That screen is just too damned big.
It's got to go.
Apropos of nothing, but EI on DirecTV >>>>> EI on FiOS (presuming its the same as EI on cable). Picture is better, they have home and away feed for every game, and they don't run a ridiculous "call XXXXXXXXX to subscribe today!" line running across the bottom of the screen every 5 minutes.
wow, Prince Albert with 2 more homers tonight. 34 on the season.
Hey, look who's back!
He just comes right at people!
[265]
and EI is having FREE previews now through July 22.
[263] LOL.
Hughes out for a second inning? Are they trying to stretch him out?
[267] Is a lefty due up? Let's see if he gets to face the lefty.
Nice to see you weeping, BTW.
Damn! Just poured it right down the middle and got a backwards K!
Guy's got balls.
wow, i can't believe Hughes is back out there!
Thanks, Shaun!
[239] I think Tex looks like Vasco da Gama. His hits explore the unknown...
: )
http://media.isnet.org/iptek/100/VascoDaGama.jpg
[257] I'll always remember the anti-Torre faction screaming about how Joe "ran Sturtze into the ground" which caused him to start pitching like Tanyon Sturtze again.
Nice hitting.
[269] Only downside is that MLB.TV is doing its free preview (a "reward" for voting in the "Final Vote" All-Star slot) at the same time. I wish they didn't overlap, then I could see more games. C'est la vie. I might give it a try anyway.
[275]
Comment of the evening .... obscure reference award.
i really like al leiter, but he has some strange theories
[276] Yeah, I was like "the problem isn't Torre, the problem is Sturtze pitching like Sturtze"
God, this guy's turning me on!
[280] I missed it, what'd he say?
Hmm, challenging hitters and throwing strikes seems to work. Please make a note of it Joba.
[283] well the most recent was about water drainage
fuck yeah, kid! get 1 more...
[282] Its that unkempt hair jutting out the back of his cap, isn't it? ;)
I hope the Yanks score a quick 3 runs, then 3 outs, so Hughes can pitch the 9th.
WTF? A balk? OK.
Hughes pitching like this reminds me of early Mariano, when he was setting up Wetteland .... pure gas and up the ladder
[285] '"DRAIIIIIINAGGGGE!!"
[284] Dear Joba, please attend the sleep over at Jete's place this weekend. Phil will be giving a talk on how to strike hitters out by using your pitches effectively.
Did anyone else feel like Burnett was getting squeezed by the home plate ump - and that Hughes isn't?
Am I wrong to want him to unlease a change up here?
[287] oh i wish he would cut that - i personally find it unattractive and douchey
but if he keeps pitching like this he can pick-up one of rj's styles for all i care
Break out that change, Phil. : )
[291] Nah, not so much. I remember a pitch or two that seemed unreasonable, but otherwise, I didn't notice.
Nice ab here.
[293] As long as he doesn't do the Papelbonesque constipation face he can keep the hair shaggy
God bless you, Ramon Santiago. You'll get Hughes to 50 pitches all by yourself!
Change up, kid - he'll never expect it!
How 'bout a breaking ball in the dirt?
Is it worth a shot?
A few more fouls and Hughes might reach Aceves' pitch limit for a spot start.
[295] yeah me too - aj wasn't getting squeezed. a couple pitches might have been borderline but he was no where near the zone on a lot of pitches
bravos destroying the muts: 11-0
2 IP, 6 K.
Tell me this kid shouldn't be a starter.
OHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
OHHHHHHH!!!!!
God, was that erotic!
Like a Mo backwards K!
Damn, this guy's good.
[259] now, MP, what did you decide about being sarcastic???
UUUUUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHHEEEESSSSSS!!!!!!!!
[279] Thank you, Diane!
*bow*
Well, he really would look like Vasco, if they had that facial hair rule back then.
"Here's my beard.
Ain't it weird?
Don't be sceered,
Just a beard." - George Carlin
: )
YEAH!
all 3 outs on K's. 2 innings, FORTY pitches.
2 ips, 40 pitches ... don't like the average, but hey, it's nice to know his arm doesn't fall off after 10!
Yo!
I see it's raining down there.
I got home in time for the bottom of the seventh, which was good, and the top of the eighth, which I liked even more.
[306] you see the link I left for you earlier (re: Metallica vs Megadeth)?
[307] That's a cost of a very high K-rate, I guess.
[301] How many outs has Francouer made? The Mets are toast. I still can't believe they dealt for such an out-maker. Probably they had to act fast, before Dayton Moore could take Meche or Greinke for him.
Hmm . . . a full season of EI costs what, $180? A half season of EI - less than that, really - costs $139?! Something tells me they aren't making any money off of that.
You know, that was really inspired pitching.
He didn't give in. Didn't start playing around, getting cute, trying to get him to chase like I thought he might, go to the change.
No, he just kept coming on his terms and won out eventually.
That was mighty impressive.
ah hell
Seems like they should call this game. Who would complain? Tigers must figure they can't score in the rain against Mariano; I know the Yankee players don't want to be out there...
[309] Please share - sounds like a great link to me!
go to the change. considering that he's probably thrown about 2 changes in the last 3 weeks, i'm rather happy he didn't go to the change ...
[284] Joba thinks he *is* attacking hitters
I want some credit for that.
[309] nope, i didn't. but Megadeth wins!!! can't wait for the new record!!! : )
[304] Doh! You got me, thus preventing me from writing a sarcastic response to [302].
It's KILLING me!!
[318] a delay is not really cool though. unless they are just going to call it soon.
[317] You mean, Joba "says" he's attacking hitters. What he thinks, we don't know.
Hopefully its not what he says.
[316] Actually, its less than that . . . (click through to Carig's article). Neyer's reasoning makes me feel better, actually.
That rain is headed our way, RI.
[314] I would complain!
I haven't seen Mo pitch in weeks!
[318] Nickname for RYI...
"Rainman"
"One minute to Wapner"...
: )
[315] see [144]
Another point in DirecTV EI's favor, vs cable/FiOS EI - DirecTV EI shows whatever is broadcast during the rain delay on YES. FiOS EI has an annoying graphic saying "rain delay". Thanks! I never would have known!
[323] weeping where were you, montana? how was that?
The Blue Jays are a hopelessly useless team, and as long as Riccardi is associated with them, I hope it remains that way.
As for drainage, I missed a game @ SWB because the field didn't drain properly and pooched the field. This was 4th of July Weekend.
The only reason to not call the game is for Mo to add to his 500+ saves. But I think Mo would be happy to skip it and have the team go out for ice cream.
[319] hard to say ... Megadeth probably wins for the career, since everything since Justice simply sucks on the Metallica side, but Metallica's 1st 4 albums give them quite the lead to squander ...
I really like what the Royals did with their ballpark.
[324] Yeah.
Cause, yeah, 111. Yeah, that's how many, that's how many pitches for CC Sabathia in his last start. 111. Just like the matches. yeah.
[311] Frency's 0-3. not sure if the DP was off his bat, but i wouldn't be surprised...
let's go royals
[326] yeah when i had ei on comcast last year those things like that were annoying. that's interesting that it's not like that on directv
[323] Don't be selfish. You can watch Mo pitch next time.
[333] Wait, not so fast...
Are you an excellent driver?
And how proficient are you at Blackjack?
: )
[331] yeah. M'deth are definitely in the current lead! last 2 records are awesome. the new one will be amazing. mustaine's working solely with Andy Sneap now. i've done a coupla records w/ Sneap over in England. he's incredible!
so...there's a delay, right?!
[337] Yeah, excellent driver.
PJ punched me and hit me and squeezed my neck.
Hey, I'm going to the game on Wednesday! It had better not rain. Forecast calls for "some showers".
This will be my first Yankee game in two years.
Meanwhile, KC leads TB 7-4 in the 6th.
[340] Okay then, it's official...
You are hereby known as "Rainman" here on Banter.
Enjoy!
"Hanes 32"
heh heh
: )
well now is a good opportunity to evaluate dave eiland
[341] Take Quantas.
"Quantas never crashed"...
: )
Eilands in the stream
[327] Road trip from SF to ME. Seattle, Montana, Wyoming, SD, Idaho...
It was fabulous, thanks. I think Montana was my favorite. Not only is it spectacular in natural beauty and rich in history, but there are some really charming towns that this NY snob found potentially quite livable (bookstores, cafes, etc.), especially Missoula. But the whole place, ghost towns, mountains, gold mines...
I really love the American west.
This is one big land we live in, I'll say that.
[336] Pfffft!
Qantas doesn't fly from Providence to NY.
Uh oh.
[346] Gilligan's Eiland
[349] That's okay, Rainman. I think they crashed since that movie came out anyway...
Fantasy Eiland.
[351] I am flying to Sydney in August, actually! But on United.
[338] just downloaded "The System has Failed", will give it a listen in a bit. Just re-listened to "Rust in Peace" again today as well (there was a Metallica vs Megadeth on another board today), not quite sure why that album is hailed as a classic in the Thrash genre, much prefer "Peace Sells" on the whole ...
[347] nice, glad you had a good trip.
i have never been to the nw - sounds like you find some interesting spots.
[352] Ohhhh! God, is that what passes for humor in Rhode Eiland?
The Eiland of Dr. Andrews
Who is authorized to "call" this comments thread? I don't want to miss anything, but I'll go do something else if the comments have been rained out.
Diane, do you have the authority?
[347] moving to Montana soon....
gonna be a dental floss tycoon!!!
[353] That's a loooooooong flight, mate!
I hope they have good movies for you!
[356] I live a mile from Connecticut, actually, so I might blame you for that one. You or the Nutmeg State.
[359] don't you mean a "mental toss flycoon"???
[354] Rust In Peace, is theeeee BEST Thrash Metal album of all-time. Ever Ever EVER!!!
every musician friend i know, says the same thing. it's a pure masterpiece.
System Has Failed is UNREAL!!! i was really impressed with that. you'll love it. Vinnie Colaiuta plays drums on it!!! : )
[355] One particularly sweet spot was a ghost town accessible only by an unpaved road up a mountain. Along the road, we saw two cars that had fallen off the road from like the 1930s. Just lying there, like fossils. Rusted hulks, antique looking things. Like Pompeii or something. No one ever bothered to remove them and now they stand silent witness to the long ago past. Really eerie, really beautiful.
[353] that's awesome, RI !!! a good buddy of mine who lives in Germany is there with his girl right now. they're on a 5-week "holiday".
one of the bands i toured the UK with played in Oz just as i was joining the band. i didn't get to do the 2 weeks there, unfortunately...
[361] We're also the Constitution State, you know. How cool is that, to have TWO nicknames!
[359] Seriously? Or are you just musing?
[354] Never really liked Megadeath myself, always preferred Metallica. No particular reason.
I have not forgotten, however, Woodstock '99. While things burned around the main (east) stage when the Chili Peppers finished up, and fights and chaos ensued - on the smaller (west) stage, Megadeath played out their set with not a single incident to be seen, and then came out for an encore or two. The people around the smaller stage had no clue of all the f'd up stuff happening around the bigger stage.
If, in advance, someone had given me betting odds on where the problems would have been that last night, the people watching the Red Hot Chili Peppers, or the people watching Megadeath - I would have lost a lot of money.
This is odd. I just tried to submit a comment in reply to [360]. I tried three times, but it won't come up. Let me see if this one shows...
Huh.
What I tried to post in reply to [360] is the name of a very useful medication for long flights. It's a brand name. I wonder whether the blog software blocks the comment.
[368] Yes, this one shows. I had similar problems the other day, and when I reviewed my post, I had left an html tag open.
[366] He's quoting Frank Zappa.
Kevin D over at the LoHud blog posted, at 10:26, that the rain was letting up, but no one on the field. What's the call from the NYers watching on YES?
[366] it's a Frank Zappa tune!
[370] But I didn't use any html. Let's see if I can slip Ambien the name in.
My experiments show that I can use "Ambien" in a sentence, but not in a very short comment. I tried just posting "Ambien, baby" and that would show up. Interesting.
Uh, that is, it wouldn't show up. The very short comment. Ugh.
[373] Hot Rats!
Why is Jim Kaat annoucnig for the Red Sox??!?!
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[377] Willie The Pimp!
[377] WTF?
I know he was doing some MLBN games - maybe he's just helping out in Remy's absence?
He must be better than Eck. Anyone is better than Eck. I miss Remy - he's a heck of a color guy.
[378] that's exactly what i was gonna say! ; )
[363] but why????? the best thrash album *ever* shouldn't make me laugh, should it?
'Cause "Five Magics" and "Dawn Patrol" make me giggle ...
Mustaine can barely sing and can't really write his way out of a wet sack lyrically, sure it's pretty tits in complexity and execution, but half the time i'd wouldn't really call it thrash and the other half it sounds like bits i've heard off the previous three albums.
Like I said, give me "Peace Sells", RtL or MoP, some Sepultura, "Reign in Blood", hell, give me a couple of Anthrax albums, or Overkill's first ...
[379] Peaches en Regalia
"brandon" arroyo picked up his 10th win for the Reds today...
[378] An experiment?
Well, unless someone reports in the next two minutes that they're going to play, I'll assume the game is done and go do something else.
[383] Peaches en Regalia - was played at Yankee Stadium on the organ recently!
I get it RIY. You're going to sleep on the flight! Good man! It's really the only way to go.
Do be extra careful on "critter patrol" "Down Under!"
The have all sorts of deadly things there!
[385] Yep. I posted a short post (12 characters) and it went through. So that was not the problem.
I guess you can't say Ambien baby here
Dunno
[387] Yeah, not a lot of deadly creatures in Sydney. Well, some of the sheilas.
[388] But try a very short post including the word "Ambien".
[389] Must be the spam filter. Lots of freaky short drug-related messages.
OK, I'm calling it a night. This rain delay graphic is horribly annoying.
Could be a word filter of some sort
Yeah, spamguard, I'm sure.
Me too, see youse tomorrow. Great Hughes outing, glad I caught half of it.
[382] Five Magics is in 5 (time signature)! i wish it was track 5... Holy Wars, is prolly the BEST Thrash tune ever written. hands down!!! : )
i love a lot of old Anthrax. yeah man, the 1st Overkill album is one of my all-time faves! i used to carry the vinyl to school with me, i loved it sooo much! still do. Years of Decay, is my other fave, but i have ALL of them. their most recent cd is excellent!
Tarp's off the field
Game on...
Roughly 10 minutes.
I don't get Megadeth vs Metallica at all.
The question of that era is Slayer vs Metallica. Even writing it here makes my mind spin.
[395] oh, you musicians, you.
to carry out the theme, "Five Magics" also appears to have been written in 5th grade
Oh, the things you'll forgive for a complex time signature ...
=)
[398] i like Slayer, but i don't consider them in the top 25 of thrash metal bands. i do adore Seasons in the Abyss.
(i know i'm gonna catch hell for the above, but whatever...)
[399] yes, odd-meter RULES!!! : )
Yay baseball!
Burn Baby is not only a great Rain Man quote, but also a nice Thrash Metal band name. : ) Let's finish this puppy.
[400] Yeah that's crazy talk.
Royals are choking. i knew that would happen once OYF stated the score...
looks like we're about to have baseball in da bronx.
i gotta make a beer run though...
I just hopped on to say the tarp's coming up, but I see you know that.
I also see I've missed some sort of metal conversation. Let me just say that Rust In Peace is my favorite album from that genre (thrash or whatever you want to call it) by far.
Gotta love Jeter pulling the ball.
Another two hits and a walk for Jeter. He'll pass Lou by August.
[400] I could see "not my favorite" or "not the best (IMHO)" but "not in the top 25"?????? Now that's just *crazy* talk.
Now you're gonna have to try and name the 25 thrash bands you'd put before them.
=)
[404] : )
[406] you are very wise, my friend! that is the general consensus about R.I.P. - it just...rules!!!
[410] You are to alcohol as I am to thrash metal. lol.
[409] i've been thinking just that!!! okay, maybe not 25 - i was exaggerating. i do like Slayer a lot and have all their albums. i don't love Reign in Blood as much as everyone else. i think South of Heaven and Hell Awaits are both better. the debut is great, too and Seasons is my fave of theirs.
i happen to love A LOT of thrash bands more. some that are pretty well known, like: Testament, Overkill, Exodus, Kreator, Anthrax, Forbidden, Flotsam and Jetsam, Sacred Reich, Pantera, Annihilator, King Diamond and Death Angel.
others are more underground, like: Heathen, Helstar, Intruder, Artillery, Sacrifice, Hexenhaus, Xentrix, Defiance, Toxik, Atrophy, Allegiance, Paradox, Realm and, of course, Whiplash!
[411] i recorded a song called "Blender for the Baby" on a death metal record some years ago. got paid for it! : )
k, beer run time!!!
wait a minute, did Mo just give up an extra base hit? i guess i'll stick around til it's officially over...
It's official...
Detroit ≠ the big boys
All rise to Mo
[414] I had you mixed up with someone else. Whoops. : D
Wahoo!
keepin' pace in the AL East. i really wish we were gaining games though...
[416] yeah, i was wondering what that analogy meant! i didn't get it. but i'm slow and lotsa stuff goes over my head... : )
Nice door closing Mr. Mo...
Catch yas lata folks!
: )
[417] Not to worry...what matters is the standings at the end of the season, not the day-to-day ups and downs. I'm still confident that the Yanks overtake the Sox. Of course, this belief is predicated on the assumption that they will actually win some games with the Sox head-to-head.
[412] I actually agree about the two albums subsequent to Reign in Blood being better. But the rest is crazy talk!
I don't want to get into a sub-genre thing, but suffice to say some of the bands you put in the same category, I wouldn't. Suffice to say!
Egads...I'm down to watching CFL. I'm not much of a fan, but it's sports and it's on.
[421] yeah man, i hear ya on the sub-genre things. there are so many "categories". i thought of that, too. thrash, speed, power, prog, technical, "true", etc. etc. everything i listed, for the most part, can fit somewhere in the thrash/speed vein. i left out a ton of other groups in metal i like more than slayer, but those genres would be pretty different.
the individual musicianship in Slayer, is just not there, for me. the guitarists are barely ever in key and the solos are really noisy. i know Lombardo is an excellent metal drummer, he's just not near the top for me, personally. he did great on Testament's "The Gathering". i listened to that last night, actually!
[413] I meant smoking.......or brunettes. HA. ; )
[424] ah, got it. perfect! : )
yeah, thrash metal is definitely NOT for everybody! i love it sooo much though! : )
oh, and at this point...brunettes are MOST welcomed!!!! : ~
[425] nope, sorry, you're already on record ... brunettes:favorite girls::slayer:favorite thrash
you'll take yer blondes and yer "other" thrash bands and you'll like it!
=)
Maddux on compliments he received today:
"It was very humbling, very exciting," he said. "If I had known I was that good, I'd probably still be playing."
ah, i know he was losing it the last coupla seasons, but i would've loved to have seen him continue to pitch. i think he could've surpassed the next #'s on the Wins list - 363 and maybe 373...
i liked this bit:
Former Braves pitching coach Leo Mazzone said he and Cox rarely had to visit the pitcher they called "Mad Dog" on the mound. Mazzone said Maddux once complained "It gets lonely out there" and asked that Mazzone come out to the mound in the sixth inning.
"Sure as heck in the sixth inning he's got a three-hit shutout going and he gets the first guy out and then he's looking in the dugout," Mazzone said. "Bobby goes 'Leo, Mad Dog is looking for you. Go out there and find out if he's OK.'
"I go running out there and he said 'How you doing coach?' I said 'Hey, Mad Dog.' He said 'How do I look?' I said 'You're doing a great job. You've got a three-hit shutout.' He says 'OK, well it was nice talking to you," Mazzone said.
[426] hey, are you around? i was gonna give you a call just to bullshit for a few minutes...
oh, and don't forget favorite foods/drinks/vices:
red meat
bacon
cake
coffee
pot
; )
Rangers releases El Duque. would anyone here rather see him on Tuesday than Mitre? i guess for nostalgia reasons, yes. i guess for pitching reasons, if we have to go this route, might as well find out how Sergio does. me - i'd rather have Moose on the hill! : )
[428] actually was about to head out the door for a party, wanna chat sometime this weekend? (oh and do me a favor and text me something, my last phone got wet and I lost all my numbers when i had to replace it, including yours)
Jim Thome now has 557 homers, 1,545 rbi and 43 multi-homer games.
[430] no worries, man. have fun at the party! i should be around all weekend. i'll shoot you a text in a minute, just so you my digits again. rock on!
[432] Hey man, doing some house-cleaning today, just pulled out Jacki McLean "4,5,6" with Mal Waldron on piano and Art Taylor on drums..trash the thrash, it's all about the jazz, Baby!
oh, Thome also now has 1,605 walks. tied with - darrell evans!!! - for 11th all-time.
Oreo's called up a kid David Hernandez to face us on Monday. i hope we don't get URP'ed...
[433] i'm actually listening to that Art Blakey BN cd i needed. got it in the mail today! it's 3 Blind Mice Vol. 1 - the live cd from 1962. i already had the hard-to-find Vol. 2. it's the stellar Jazz Messengers lineup w/ Hubbard, Fuller, Shorter, Walton and Merritt!
nice on the McLean! earlier this year, i bought the RVG remaster of that cd! came out in 2007. my man, Hank Mobley, plays one track on that record! : )
[433] i hear ya, i cleaned my pad on Monday. got a real estate agent today. having a meeting next week. i'm a-gonna get a move on...literally!
[435] wow..look at that lineup in the Messengers, overwhelmingly cool.
things are tough all over now man, no summer bonuses here..less $ to hit the jazz bars maybe a good thing, need to do a lot of writing for my jazz site that's loooong delayed..
you got any gigs coming up?
buck showalter has actually been pretty good on bbtn.
[437] yeah man, same lineup as Mosaic & Buhaina's Delight. a coupla others w/ similar lineups, but Reggie Workman on bass...
not many gigs, i'm afraid. next week, i've got 3 days of private teaching, but not many lessons on those days - just 2 or 3...
i had a gig next week, but it got cancelled. i'll get a paid rehearsal in its place, but a little less bread. such is the times...
the guitar player i co-lead the jazz trio with is booking 2 gigs for us Sept/Oct. it'll be soooo nice to play Swing again!!!
man, I lost the paper where I wrote down the Blue Mitchell album you are looking for..what was it again? Some browsing on schedule for tomorrow afternoon, will ask around about it.
[439] Nice! get some YouTube clips up asap!
tim lincecum had an in-game WHIP of under 1 and racked up 10 more K's in a ND tonight. giants won in extras. i can't believe they're leading the WC in the NL. and the Rox are only 1 game back...
[440] oh, no worries. the one i had mentioned was "Step Lightly". there are a few others of his on BN. i'm not even sure all of them have been released on cd. here's my wish list of his:
BLUE MITCHELL
Heads Up (LP only)
Step Lightly
Bring It Home To Me (LP only)
Collision In Black (LP only)
Bantu Village
the "LP only", is only my speculation...
[443] Will keep a lookout for them. I have "Bring it Home to Me"! not on vinyl or cd though, it's on my iTunes..i "found" it somewhere :)
Joe Chambers "The Almoravid" on right now..fantastic hidden gem on Blue Note, he actually wrote many of the compositions on Bobby Hutchersons's records
[441] we actually have at least one youtube clip up. it's from several years ago, 2003, methinks. our old bass player was with us. he's subbed for us recently. the tune is a Latin piece - samba (Steve Kuhn's "The Real Guitarist")
[444] my mistake, not a BN release! but still great!!
[445] yeah, how can i find it??
[444] OMG, The Almoravid is a BN release?!?!?! i thought it was on 32 Jazz! i guess they could've reissued it. and what the hell is an "almoravid"??? with an upper case "A", it's not a misspelling here with Firefox. i guess it's...something. i'll have to look it up on the information highway...
but first, i need to find out about its relation to Blue Note. yeah man, Joe Chambers is a monster! he was terrific w/ Bobby Hutcherson. his compositions are excellent. really out shit! he's an excellent piano player. sometimes, he and Hutch would switch instruments (drums/marimba - my 2 main instruments!). Chambers' older brother was a professional 20th Century avant-garde composer, iirc...
[447] knew you would know that record, it's awesome! and YES you are right, was on 32 Jazz! you're a damn music encyclopedia my friend!
Chambers still on 67, he was in his 20s when playing with Hutch..
go to youtube. press in derek mccoy. look for the black/white 2003 clip. it's 10 mins long. the text will mention an ice storm in atlanta.
it's not the clearest quality, as far as hearing the drums is concerned. and what's more important than drums - melody? puh-lease! ; )
i'm outing myself for you! hope you enjoy it!!! : )
oh Almoravid is Arabic for sure, but don't know what it means..the song titles are all related to Arabia though (Catta, Jihad, Medina) so he must have been studying the region and Islam at that point.
[448] : )
i've wanted that record for awhile. there are tons of jazz cd's i want, but i've been mostly concentrating on Blue Note, so i'm letting most of the others slide. when i found McLean's 4,5,6, it was only $6.50 - new and remastered - so i had to pick it up. similar for the recent - and cheap - Pharaoh Sanders cd's i bought on Impulse!
i plan on making another decent sized BN order in a month. right now, i have to concentrate on practicing - my old Fusion trio might be getting back together for a pretty BIG gig next month, so i need to focus my energy on re-learning that insanely difficult and challenging music...
Got the clip! Swinging!!!
[449] Catta, is an Andrew Hill tune that is the lead track on Bobby Hutcherson's excellent "Dialogue" album from 1965 w/ Joe Chambers on drums.
[453] "Dialogue" is an amazing album..but all of Hutcherson is amazing, wish he would tour Japan again..
couldn't find Derek McCoy at allmusic.com, but found a Japanese myspace page actually, has that same clip from YouTube and a few others. hope someone records your fusion gig, and get a promoter for an Asian tour!
[454] i never check out myspace, but just went. yeah, derek's got some of our stuff there. we did a dvd that night. i see there's a funk improv jam and it's in COLOR! cool. who knew? i forgot about this shit. i do remember my brother digging the drum solo in it. yeah, we wouldn't be at allmusic...
there's a myspace link at derek's page for a guitar cat named Carl Culpepper. he's a crazy genius on a lot of levels. total shredder guitar god, too. i recorded his solo cd and teach college with him...
[454] oh, if that fusion gig comes to fruition, it'll DEFINITELY be recorded. we'll be opening for a Frank Zappa alum band member! i'm hoping it happens and we get back together full-on. if so, we've got a Mahavishnu project planned (we're mentioned in their biography book!) and that'll get proper cd/dvd distro, i imagine...
[455] checking out the funk jam now, nice..extra bonus points for getting the drunk business people on their feet!
I will look up Culpepper..the web is so great for hearing musicians 8000 miles away, feel so lucky to have it!
[457] yeah, sorry there's no straight up jazz on there! the whole rest of that dvd is swing. i have it here - Stella, Billie's Bounce, 4 on Six, Bernie's Tune, A Train, Jordu, Sandu, Solar, etc....
Carl is UNREAL.
hope you dig the drumming...
[458] You guys were great, that trio ever still active? Drumming is super solid, man..funky, swinging and fluid (even if you don't like hip-hop! :)
and I won't reveal your real name on the Banter..mine is out there anyway if you follow the trail from my site..
really hot here today so NP: some Nigerian Juju guitar again, can't get enough of this stuff! my lady working today so just me and Mr. OK Jazz Jr chilling at home..when I am supposed to be doing housework..
[459] thanks, man! yeah, we're still active! the place where we've had a steady, weekly gig for EIGHT years, just closed down last month, so we're slow right now. that old bassist had been filling in (current one is out on tour), and it was like old times. just tight as hell. of course, we've NEVER rehearsed or anything! : ) just improv...
i actually recorded a hip-hop session several years ago and thoroughly enjoyed it!
i didn't see your name at your site, but your friend outed you recently for your anniversary! : ) i'm gonna have to set up all kindsa internet stuff in the coming months, when my percussion cd is finished, so i'll lose my cover then... yes, still always refer here by our screen names!!!!!!
the guitarist from the trio is ridiculously UNREAL!!!
i'm off to the pub. i really need to email you off of here...
Rock On!
[460] Peace out, just going through the rubble here I found an old Babtunde Olatunji cd which has Mickey Hart and Airto Moreira on it..hidden treasure! Have a good one, hope Yanks win while it's slumber time here!