Let’s start fresh, shall we?
Last night was a game to forget. Here’s hoping tonight will be different. Let’s Go Yan-Kees!
Let’s start fresh, shall we?
Last night was a game to forget. Here’s hoping tonight will be different. Let’s Go Yan-Kees!
Categories: Bronx Banter Game Thread Yankees
To quote Ben from RAB:
"Of course, the Yanks failed to hit with runners in scoring position, going 3 for 17 and stranded 18 runners over the course of the game. "
You can piss and moan about Javy, Joba or any other pitcher that disappoints, but last night's loss falls on the offense. A .177 BA with RISP just doesn't cut it... for a team with $70m wrapped up in just 3 offensive players. Jeter, of course, gets the golden plum, as he couldn't even hit one of his patiented choppers to SS with a man on 3rd.
Our pitching can be great and it can be scary. But we win or lose on offense. Jeter needs to sit for 3 days, and watch Nunez Pipp him. Maybe that wil shake some of the cobbwebds off.
Ahhhh.... and as I check out ESPN mid-post:
"With Derek Jeter in an 8-for-67 slump and with him having played in all 13 innings of Friday night's more than five-hour loss, New York Yankees manager Joe Girardi has decided to give Jeter the day off Saturday."
Unfortunately, it's Pena instead of Noony.
Even Robbie is not as patient as earlier, and isn't going the other way as much.
The bats need to get their shit together.
With a TB Win today, CoolStandings gives us a 51.9% chance of winning the Division. It was 65% before last night's game.
[1] Chessmaster has more confidence in Pena's defense, which would be a consideration against a team with better than average offense. I dunno, it's all the same to me as long as Jeter gets rest.
There were lots of missed opportunities on offense, but I think Girardi contributed to them. Removing Swisher and Thames made little sense, for example. Also, bunting with Gardner was absurd, unless Girardi was also willing to squeeze with Jeter. Sometimes, there are just nights when you struggle. A manager's job is try and help the team overcome them. Last night. Girardi's decision making fed into the problem.
Huh, Krazy Kyle pitched the 11th for Atlanta and didn't lose the game. But it is the NL.
Jesus, FIVE ONE FIVE???
Damn!
[5] Missed that, what was it about?
[5] ? Area code in Upper Hudson Bay?
At least Michigan won, so that should make Jeter feel better.
Commemorative caps for 9/11? Seriously?
[6] [7] A certain pitcher's ERA. But man, does he have electric stuff!
"Who loves you, baby (besides Ice...)?" >;)
[10] Ah. It's that low?
[7] Actually, now that you mention it, I used to live in 515! (It's western Iowa.)
AJ looks to be in mid-season form!
What the hell is Paul talking about?
I think O'Neill is the closest thing to Scooter since Scooter. Imagine when he really gets wacky when he's a bit on in years.
Those caps are really annoying.
It's amazing that this team has 87 wins.
[13] Eh, what's a little latitude between friends? >;)
I like how Paul picks on Kay; just to deflate him a little it seems...
O'Neill, "Did you ever have rosin on your hands? It's really weird".
Yep, I can see the Scooter comp.
[20] Right?
I can't wait for Paulie to start raving about canolis.
that was a nice pitch .... not wide, Kay
[18] Nothing makes sense this year. The team has 87 wins despite looking mediocre. Alex has 100 RBI despite hitting .270 with 22 homeruns and time spent on the DL. Teix has 100 RBI or nearly with a similarly low average, not having hit a lick for the first three months of the season.
Craziness.
Damn, look at those wrists.
Yes.
Mike Maddux ยป Dick Dastardly?
They are definitely in Scooter territory. Happy clouds?
Wow, get a load of Brains!
[28] Hehehehehh!
[24] Despite his fantastic slump, Captain has scored 96 runs...
[31] Really??? Wtf? It's like Opposite Year. Like it's all some weird dream.
Fuck, he looks *ancient!*
From Lohud:
He [Andy] will return to the Yankees rotation on Sunday in Baltimore.
[32] Really. I don't remember seeing him last year being such a shock. He is really looking 'mature'. Maybe we should ask Minka to take it easy on him.
Gloomy clouds?
What's next, moderately depressed clouds?
90+ degrees at 8:00 in mid September.
I don't know how humans live in Texas.
(We won't even mention politics...)
[35]
perhaps the clouds need some Paxil ... so they can be those bouncy ovals instead ...
Russo and Miranda are being called up tomorrow ...
[32] It has been a weird dream season with strange sometimes frustrating drama. Most solid starting rotation early ('cept for Javy), terrible bullpen. Now no confidence beyond CC and the bullpen is solid. Hitting has been suspect all year, Cano up and now somewhat down. Arod no longer a real power threat as he protects his hip, at least this year, Jeter lost in the wilderness, Teixeira looked like he would never get started. Swisher has come up big this year, and what a surprise in Marcus Thames. As I stated in May, the team was winning with smoke and mirrors, and the magic wins continue. Maybe they will be winning real when it counts. We'll see.
[36] That's funny. When I went to Texas, the general consensus was they didn't understand how people could live in New York.
[36] In the South girls break out tank tops & shorts in February. Or even never put them away.
Mike Schmidt at third. Barry Bonds in left.
[40] You're opening a can of schizim there. I will not take the bait.
If you think long you might think wrong????
Derek had more hits in that Ford commercial than in the past month.
Kim looks damn good for 41 ...
[40] As someone who moved out of NY (or LI) at 19, I can understand that.
[41] +1
[46] Yes she does. Or for any age.
Why do I think of "schweaty balls" when I see AJ go to the rosin bag this often ...
[48]
indeed
Vlad is not a piss-poor batsman.
Why does anyone throw Vlad a strike?
2 out walk...AJ is his own worst enemy.
Burnett has been so bad, that giving up two runs over the first three innings actually makes it seem like he is pitching well.
So what's all this Reggie/Nolan buddy-buddy stuff, anyway?
Soon we will have mad-at-A.J. clouds.
Michael Kay as Prez? (shudder)
[57] So I didn't imagine that? He was fantasizing about being president?
I've looked at clouds from both sides now, from up and down but still somehow it's wins illusions I recall, I really don't know this team, at all.
O'Neill cracks me up!
Yup, most definitely Scooter territory. All we need now is a "Huckleberry" and a "Holy Cow."
Wowzers, 78 pitches thru 4 innings for Hunter...
Brains...besides always being likable, is returning to competency lately.
I am sure Carl Crawford enjoyed that inning.
W just come from clearing brush?
In tha commercial, did they call that child "it"?
Matt Treanor has the best pre-AB music in baseball.
[67]
Some player got pranked by his teammates ... they got the PA to play "Its Raining Men" when he came to bat.
The Yankees really need to work very hard on trading Burnett this off season.
William Tell Overture? Nice.
[69] He's just impossible to watch, isn't he?
2 out walk to a 220 hitter. AJ self flagellation.
[68] That would have funny to hear. Wonder what Misty May had to say about that?
[71] Hard to watch and probably hard to play behind. More importantly, he simply isn't very good. I was dead wrong on AJ. I thought he had plateaued at a more consistent level.
Was that a strike?
I think AJ is a candidate for mood-altering medication. It would help.
Arod comes back, so naturally Swisher, Tex and Cano stop hitting.
Strange to hear Pauli reading the promo liners.
Andrew Marchand must read the Banter .... (tweeting):
In Texas, listening to Kay and O'Neil (Slingbox). O'Neil sort of has some Scooter Rizzutto in him as he bounces ard from topic to topic.
O'Neill's trivia quiz is hysterical. He has Scootered Scooter.
O'Neill is the only color commentator who makes Kay somewhat enjoyable.
Oh, Teix.
Jesus H.
Frak!
Inexcusable to be doubled off...the Yankees have played like crap over the last week. Looks like the 8-game winning streak was the outlier.
[80] I know! It's his attitude about it that's so funny! He busted right out of the gate with it and it's been hilarious since the start.
Dayum Tex, you even had time to get back. Missed that line drive running rule in little league?
Great...another parade of pitchers.
Rain clouds.
A softball team I ran was in the semi-finals of a very competitive league. We had 1st and 2nd with one out and the best hitter in the league on deck. I called timeout, jogged out to 2B and told the runner, "do not get doubled off on a line drive". The very next pitch was a line drive to the short stop, who threw to 2B for the double play.
[89] And that was the ninth inning in the deciding game, which we were only trailing by one.
[90] Dangerfieldnyy23... >;)
So I come home to this.
I'd almost rather Posada take his usual strike out looking/exaggerated argument with the umpire there.
Almost.
Sometimes you deserve to leave men on base. In Granderson's AB, he took a 3-0 fastball down the middle when all the Yankees needed was a groundball to tie. The biggest difference between this year and last is the Yankees now have hitters who don't really seem like they know how to hit. Matsui and Damon have not been replaced.
Girardi hasn't HAD to go the bullpen. He HAS been overmanaging.
By the time we get to October, the Yankees aren't going to have a bullpen anymore.
Roberston gives up a run after throwing over 30 pitches? What a shocker.
More teasing....
[94] Every so often, the Yankees fall into the teamwide trap of only trying to work walks, meatballs be damned. I actually think it cost them the 2006 playoffs. But that's a rant for another day.
Woo-Hoo!
ALEX!!!!!!!!
Easy RBI for Robbie here...
A Yankee win lowers the playoff magic number to 11, BTW.
I can't remember seeing so many well struck balls die on the warning track in Texas.
Do the Yankees have scouting reports on Vlad and Franceour?
I really don't want to be repeatedly thwarted by Jeff Francoeur.
Where was that?
Okey dokey.
Can Mo pitch tonight, or are we preparing for the Joba experience?
[105] What is the scouting report on Vlad?
Throw him a strike, he won't be expecting that!?
[109] Don't throw him a strike...and probably don't throw him anything close to being a strike.
Arriving late...seems like i've missed quite a game so far.
Is someone managing?
We sent a runner?
Is Joe okay?
[110] Uh, you really think that makes ANY difference???
Good luck with that ...
[112] 3-0 bunt...it's definitely Girardi.
[114] Guerrero makes ALOT of outs reaching for balls out of the zone.
[116] Cite, please.
Again, you don't leave men on base by accident. When your manager bunts 3-0, you get what you deserve.
These games are killing me. Are we still in 2010?
This man terrifies me.
Don't walk Vlad.
[117] I can probably find that info, but at my finger tips, I can tell you that Vlad swings at 47% of pitches out of the zone and 80% in the zone, but makes contact on 71% and 89%, respectively. That doesn't answer your question, but the best I can do right now.
Ugh. Well, Vladdy's pitch selection doesn't matter if you don't throw him a strike ...
Amazing...would have never predicted that Mariano would walk Vlad.
This game has a bad feeling. Using Mo for two could really come home to roost tonight.
Relaxed anyone?
Does Washington employ the pinch stand there?
Mo's location is way off tonight.
German stole on Mo last night.
I have no idea what this man's strikezone is.
Joe Girardi can't figure out why Ron Washington didn't just have German stand there until the inning ended.
He shouldn't have been able to hit that with a sand-wedge.
FUCK.
[30] Between Washington, Girardi and Gardenhire, the Rays are going to have a distinct advantage in the playoffs.
I still am trying to figure out why Mo went two innings last night when none of the other relievers did (besides Gaudin), and now he's fried today. Girardi has managed these two games terribly, and I'm not quick to criticize him.
Well, we're fucked.
Was the infield in?
[132] Maddon could always choose to leave his relievers in the game to die like he did in the playoffs two years ago.
[133] great question.
[133] Well, if Hughes threw more than 12 pitches ... he'd spontaneously combust!!!
Or something ...
This has been quite the painful stretch of baseball. If they lose the division, it won't be hard to identify when it was lost.
I can't lose to Jeff Francoeur.
What a disgrace.
So, yeah ... that happened.
Christ on a cracker.
See you all tomorrow.
Ugh!!!! These last two games were pathetic. Plus, I am lacking sleep. Not a good combination.
Ugh.
This team is in a LOT of trouble. The manager is a total fucking moron to begin with, and now that he's going to be put in a position where he has to manage, its not good.
.5 games and plummeting like a rock.
[143] Last six games. Absolute horseshit baseball for a week in the pennant race,
So, bunting on 3-0 sure worked out.
[146] And with Lee on the mound tomorrow.... Against the Orioles, they simply weren't hitting. Here they've had ample opportunities. They've dominated. Most frustrating.
[145] The Yankees are going to be the wild card. They just have to hope enough players get hot to overcome a manager who has no idea how to run a game. If they do get bounced in the first round, I hope Hal and Cashman realize that its time for them to hire a competent manager who has understands how to run a ballgame.
[145] Honestly, I can't recall a stretch of worse managing by a Yankees manager. Didn't Girardi make some big deal at the start of the year about how he wouldn't use Mariano for two innings anymore until October?
That said, how many runners did they strand in scoring position the last two games against struggling pitchers? That's what worries me the most.
[147] Yeah, and then there's that. Clueless.
Bunting on 3-0 = over-managing. Was he going for the element of surprise?
[152] The notebook told him to. Or something.
[152] I almost guarantee he was. Most of the stupid moves he makes boil down to trying to "trick" the other manager.
Its gotten to the point where if he just does what he's supposed to do, he'll really catch the other guy off guard,
[150] Yeah, I don't like the idea of using Mo for two innings, unless the WS is on the line or something. And if you do use him two innings, using him again the next day is probably not a good idea.
A loss like this feels helpless because I am not sure what it is going to take to get rid of Girardi. Even if this team loses in the ALDS, I don't know if the Yankees are going to wake up and realize what they have as a manager. I can only hope the lure of the Cubs job is enough to accomplish that goal.
I think we also need to remember that Joe was at his absolute dirt worst in the playoffs last year, but the team (and occasionally the umpires) overcame him. I'm not sure they can do that again this year
[155] And by the way, he probably isn't available tomorrow...along with Robertson (who threw 30+) and probably Wood too.
[158] Do you really think its going to matter?
Will this be the night the tough NY media stops tip toeing around Girardi?
[159] With Lee pitching against Moseley? Probably not.
Joba will be available. That should offer you some sense of security.
[162] He'll be used as a pinch runner.
And geez, the idiot went to Gaudin again. I mean, what is he thinking?!?
I was thinking CC was going tomorrow. Things just went from bad to worse.
Well, Girardi offered some explanations for his decisions tonight.
He said he pulled Gardner because he's banged up. And Thames went in because "he's had some success" in that situation.
He says he's not worried about the pen. Says there are guys who can go long if necessary tomorrow.
[165] He said Thames had success against that guy. I think he has faced him once or twice. That explanation was as weak as the one he gave for leaving Arod in to run, but then replacing him on defense in the next inning.
The question no one appears to have asked is why on Earth did Cervelli bunt 3-0, and why was the infield in?