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November 26, 2024
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Hughes Got It
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"This ain't football. We do this every day."
--Earl Weaver
--Earl Weaver
No flipping in the standings tonight.
We're back to having two lefties in the bullpen.
I hate having two lefties in the bullpen.
[2] unless Mo decides to give southpaw a shot and add a few years to his career. I could see him doing that, becoming the greatest lefty closer ever. Not too much to expect of him at this point, right?
[1] Word. Hughes is on his game tonight, and Score Truck's lurking in the neighborhood awaiting deployment.
[1] I'm an optimist by nature, so I hate to put this out there, but I think hoping for the Yankees to win the division may be tooptimstic. And I'm wondering if the Yankee management doesn't privately think the same thing.
I should have thought on this sooner, being an obsessive schedule comparer, but I sort of checked out of that business a number of weeks ago. I had a sneaky suspicion that the Rays had taken a massive step forward in claiming the division by clearing the Boston games off their schedule, but until I looked, I didn't realize how bad it was.
The comparative difficulty of remaining games is sobering. Yes, the Yanks have five games left with the Rays, but one of those is tonight at the Trop, and, as we all know, the Rays are a tough team.
But seven games against the Red Sox, three at Toronto, three at the suddenly dangerous O's right after this series... ugh. Meanwhile, the Rays have the Angels at home - and the Angels anywhere are frighteningly toothless right now, a series against the Mariners, they end with the Royals...
Anything can happen, I know that. Stranger things have happened. On the downside of that, as crazy as my fears over the Red Sox may seem, that team is only seven behind in the loss column, has seven games left against us, and we've got all that other thorny stuff on the schedule. Back to the division, I know the Rays could lose some unexpected games, but the schedules remaining just set up horribly for our prospects of winning the division. Seven games against the Red Sox, while the Rays have cleared that off their schedule... I hope I'm wrong, but the Rays should be the odds-on favorite.
I just want to be healthy for the playoffs.
[5] I think that may be a reasonable line of thinking. I think my natural optimism has turned to pessimism on this season, though, with Aceves and Marte out for good. I'm having a tough time truly trusting KW, as well. I know people around here think Marte is useless, but I've always thought he has a legitimate shot to be very useful when he's actually healthy. Ace was invaluable last year, although I guess he did slump in the postseason. Tex has got a broken toe... I tried to claim the other day that I was done being frantic over the Yankees from here on in, but that's probably BS. I still hope, I just think it looks tough.
Hit & SB for Cap'n? Nice. Good time to end a slump.
Only one run there? I'm so disappointed.
Well, that was ... disappointing.
Nice to see a couple of change-ups from Phil already.
hi team.
good lord, i see there is another pupil enrolled at the jorge posada baserunning academy.
[11] Heh. I'd *LOVE* to see the instructional video from that school.
Somehow I imagine it with "Yakkity Sax" playing in the background.
Hughes looking sharp so far.
Giving him that tune-up inning in Texas seems to have worked (fingers crossed).
[12] Or maybe something from Spike Jones...
[13] yeah he looks much sharper. little rest, inning out of the pen - let's hope he has a second wind down the stretch and going into playoffs (presuming, of course)
[14] Yeah I think that would do...
[16] ha, yes, and you should scratch the intro during especially egregious moments - i am thinking of the play in the world series where po and his star pupil both managed to end up at 3b though for a split second neither one was touching it.
the yankees are getting some nice hacks of big game, but not much to show for it yet.
[17] Oh, you mean the one that the 3B umpire didn't see and called them both safe? I'd enroll in that class >;)
[19] yep that one - that's the advanced seminar :}
[19] Posada: "These aren't the baserunners you're looking for..."
Umpire: "These aren't the baserunners I'm looking for.. SAFE! "
Huuuuuuuuuuuuughes!
Just got tickets to tomorrows Mets game and Monday's Yankee game
SHUT UP KAY.
JUST.
SHUT.
UP.
[23] Well, they do have medication for that kind of thing...
I actually agree with Maddon on the Crawford play.
Geez, the horse is already dead Kay.
Jeez... Posada is slow, He made that close.
Berkman got their so fast he could have taken the throw.
[26] I don't think the reward was worth the risk, but there is a reasonable argument to be made to the opposite.
It's certainly not the slam dunk case that Kay thinks it is ...
Kay keeps forgetting the possibility of Crawford scoring on an infield single, or errant throw (that didn't get away from the fielder) ... as well as the possibility of an error ON the throw to 3rd.
I like to drown him in the Ray tank, but those rays' never done anything to deserve that ...
Is it me, or has the BBB been broken?
[30] clang him upside the head with a cowbell.
[30] Another thing to consider is Joyce is a lefty and Mo's cutter means he'd likely pull the ball. If that happened, it would be hit to Golson, whom we now know has a great arm. Would Crawford definitely score on a hit? I am not so sure.
[31] The Better Business Bureau has been overwhelmed of late...
But yeah, the Banter was down for just a minute it seems, but now it's back so I'll pretend that it never happened...
[30] Its also not exactly unheard of for Posada to allow a passed ball.
Maybe the entire SNY-blog-hosting universe collapse, as Jenrry Mejia got pulled in the 3rd inning just now with an apparent injury.
[35] How many passed balls has Po had with Mo pitching? I don't recall any (but that means nothing).
[36] You're kidding. That's awful.
Well, Sterling is delighted. Every time a pitcher goes into the fourth inning having given up no hits or walks, his every other word is "A PERFECT GAME" and it continues until it's over. But who talks about a perfect game in the fourth inning??
[38] You can say that again. We'll not know the real diagnosis for another six weeks!
Not being aggressive on the 2-2 has set up the inning for the Rays. A key part of the maturation process for a pitcher is not changing the approach with men on base.
[35] Does he now?
let's not waste any wasted pitches here hughes.
Have I ever mentioned that I hate the Yankees pitch selection sometimes?
[38]
Yeah .... Mejia threw a wild pitch .... gave up a walk .... and then they summoned the trainer and manager :-(
[42] Oh I know Po gives up passed balls, but with Mo pitching?
Mets been inthe caves again.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ietx30CzWY4&p=650446F6C109757E&playnext=1&index=7
Truly a cursed franchise..
Quiet Banter this evening..too much tension last night?
fuckity fuck fuck.
Lost the no hitter, and now the shutout and lead.
Imagine if we didn't go out of our way to create a full count. But its imperative that we start bouncing balls up there with two strikes because... I have no earthly idea.
I really think this entire inning goes back to pitch selection. Why Hughes became so tentative in the Joyce AB really make no sense. Is it Jorge? Hughes? The Yankees philosophy?
[51] Its either Hughes or the Yankee philosophy. It doesn't matter who is catching. If Phil Hughes gets two strikes, he has to start with the balls in the dirt or over the head or a foot outside.
nice throw po.
Some good throws from Jorge the last few days.
It's gotta be the philosophy, because ALL the pitchers do that. It's the strangest and most annoying thing... well, besides Girardi's use of the bullpen...
Crawford out by a lot. Po channeling Yadier?
[55] Sabathia throws pitches that are out of the zone but might draw a swing.
Kearns doesnt look like he has a chance.
Al really should have called it "The MTV"
Hughesian
Kearns is lost.
Crud.
[58] I was thinking the same thing. Surprised that it went to 3-2
the shine might be off kearns.
[63] He threw balls over his head, in the dirt and one that was somewhere in Miami.
Okay, that may have been the funniest thing I've heard on a YES broadcast
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_Taylor
She was a woman. So back in the day they had gay marriage? And polygamy?
[57] Who's gonna tell him what to do?
And for Gleason, his third wife was Marilyn Taylor so I guess it was sister.
[66] Details?
[70] They mentioned that Jackie Gleason was married to June Taylor's wife.
Hughes dughes! (except for the HR).
[66] Michael Kay said that James Shields from the set reminds him of the June Taylor dancers, which Kay and Kenny alerted us were from Jackie Gleason's variety show. A few minutes later we got this exchange
Kay: I just got a text from Russ Salzberg. Here's a bit of trivia! Jackie Gleason was married to June Taylor's wife!
...
...
... (Sseriously, like five seconds of uncomfortable silence)
Kenny: Married to who?
Kay: He was married to June Taylor's wife!
...
...
...
Al: June Taylor was a man?
I forgot what comedian said this, "I wonder if other dogs think that poodles are part of a secret cult" .
(on Yes, they had that Miller beer at the dog show commercial.)
[66],[67] Huh??
[73] Ahhh, I see. Kay is never wrong... >;)
I hope that hit some bat
god damnit.
Ooh. Derek told a fib.
Hm.
Maddon getting himself thrown out?
He's asking to get tossed.
[81] He should. Real bad call.
Command performance from the Captain.
haha derek is just standing on first not giving a fuck.
Yes! Kasparov gets tossed...
when you throw it that close to the hitter how hard can you really argue with the HBP call?
better actor than Mikna
I see Minka has been giving Derek some acting lessons. That must be fun...
But you know what this means... a give-back somewhere. Could be the difference the way the Yanks are hitting tonight...
[90] I mean, "make-up call"
The one look up while writhing in pain was priceless.
WOO HOO!!!
grandy!!!
Grandy!
Grandy roped it. That went out in one second.
[92] Ha! That was too freaking funny. One of my favorite moments of the season so far. Who but Jeter could pull off something like that? Mr Intangibles, indeed.
[73] Jayzuz how freakin old are those guys to bring up Jacie Gleason? (Or me for knowing and loving the guy...)
I LOVE YOU CURTIS!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpD8FpGpBjE&feature=fvst
F@#$ you, Kevin Long! >;)
[98] hell, kenny is 63.
We'd be ripping our hair out if this happened to us.
here's a fun note ... I believe kenny's son chris is doing the game on ESPN
[73] Well, you bring up Charlie Parker, and Miles, and Count Basie. Gleason is to TV what those guys are to jazz.
Love the clip btw.
Crawford better not use that stance on the Penitentiary Ball Team.
[87] That noise obviously wasn't bone.
[103] Guilty!
Curtis Mayfield was so under-appreciated.
Is Hughes going to get the hook this inning?
[102] Chris & Ken are not related (but they do have some common territory)...
nice pitch!
I've seen the Yanks get screwed just as badly, if not worse, on espn games and they do not dwell on it like this.
niiiiice pitch.
[107]
oh .... my bad!
OMG, it's getting close to 100 pitches! Even though Phil had one hiccup. 100 pitches!!11!!1!!
Uncle Charlie causes Jelly Legs!
pleasenotRoyceRingpleasenotRoyceRing
Where the hell was that pitch?
[114] Jobber
I think we all saw that coming
wtf!
Sorry to be late to the show, but I was eating dinner when Jeter was up. The boys (K. Kennedy) on the TB broadcast team are calling for instant replay. Anyway, the ball hit flush off the knob of the bat and went in play. Jeter was thrown out at first... while he was 120' from the bag.
Great acting job.
We have finally found out what 2010 Derek is good at.
OH FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!
GODFUCKINGDAMMIT.
FUCKFUCKFUCK.
he owned hughes tonight
dammit. karma's a bitch.
Yuck. Hughes grooved him one.
Can we get to Benoit and Soriano?
There really is something galling about losing to Dan Johnson
[103] Gleason was sort of jazz fan in fact...
Boy, Dan Johnson is fated to be a hero tonight or something? Damn...
I think, perhaps, Phil Hughes should not pitch to Dan Johnson if we play Tampa in the ALCS.....just a thought.
Who is this Johnson guy and why is ruining my evening?
[125] He was the MVP of the international league.
From ESPN:
New York Yankees left-hander Andy Pettitte is set to rejoin the rotation on Sunday. Manager Joe Girardi announced the plan for Pettitte before Wednesday night's game against the Tampa Bay Rays. With his return, Javier Vazquez will shift to a long relief role.
Hughes pitched well, but this is a disappointing start in the long run. Four runs is too much.
For some reason this game has the "feel" of a game we are going to win. I cannot explain this, but I feel confident.
[129] And a fringe major leaguer.
Dammit.
I stepped out during the top of the inning and missed US scoring runs.
I get back and witness THEM scoring runs.
FUCK.
Good thing I went out for booze ...
Efficient Joba.
[134] I think you need to leave again
I am really, really frustrated right now. I'm just not enjoying these games.
I didn't want Hughes pitching to that fucking guy again, although I don't know how strident a complaint that should be.
Fucking Jorge giveth and taketh away.
That crucial third pitch, if Jorge doesn't do his damn come out of the crouch for no reason thing, does it get called a strike?
It was a strike, according to my eyes and pitch fx.
I'm too tired to muster up true rage right now, but bleeping bleep bleep bleeping bleep.
Blech.
[131] Story of his second half.
Don't worry, Kearns will be up fourth next inning to strand some more runners.-
[131] He pitches himself into stupid situations.
[90] You were right the first time, fool...
[131] It really is too much. I don't give a damn about how good he looks or how nice that curve ball to Longoria was - four runs is four runs in less than seven innings, and it is simply not good enough.
I could really like Longoria, btw, if it wasn't for that ridiculous mullet. I find it extremely irritating.
You know what could make this suck even more? If Maddon drags Girardi into another game of bullpen roulette
Dan Johnson (31) is from the Oakland organization. He was a sluuger in the minors, witha career OPS of .904. In MLB, he has been a disappointment, with a career OPS of .762. I think all his HRs this year might be against the Yankees.
Fuckin A.
[141] It's northern FLA. The mullet still works.
[144] Is that why they all have taint brillo on their chins???
[143] He hit one or two against Boston as well. Guess he hit a big one against them back in 2008 to wrap up the East.
[130] Javy shifting out of the rotation is certainly a big relief...
All right, MR. Thames ... announce thy author-i-tai
[143] I think he has a few against Boston
[144] I just refuse to acknowledge that that's ok anywhere on the planet.
No one else annoyed with Jorge coming out of the crouch and turning 1-2 into a 2-1 count? Just me? Ok.
[142] He'd really be a master if he could do that from outside of the dugout (he got thrown out two innings ago)... I think Joe can do bad all by himself now.
[150] I hate any time a catcher comes out of the crouch. Seems like Varitek was the first guy I saw do that, which makes it even worse. So I'm with you, 100%!
[143] eh, Johnson's over 30 so if he's a major league starter he should've made it by now......maybe Dan Johnson is to Phil Hughes what Shane Spener and Kevin Maas once were to the Yanks --- lightening in a bottle
I missed the sequence. Was Berkman pulled first, or was Choate pulled first? Thames looks totally lost against right-handers.
[150] Well... we all love Jorge...
Could the Yankees have two slower people on the bases?
[150] Agree with you on mullets. They, like spandex, need to be regulated.
OK Kearns, do something.
try not to k here kearns.
[154] berkman first for thames.
0-2, Kearns is cooked.
Is Tampa's closer available for the FOURTH night in a row? I wonder who closes if Maddon won't go to him.
Jesus Christ Austin. What the hell were you waiting for?
Guess Swisher is still hurt. Kearns has basically cost them this series.
sorry, I have no faith in Curtis here either.
[164] Me neither.
This team is in a LOT of trouble.
swisher!! brett!! come back NOW!
[138] Prescient.
40-man roster and we've got Kearns and Curtis swinging their wet noodles. I would've at least chanced Miranda there.
well, look on the bright side, Jeter can't lead off with a double play.
[168] I so wanted to be wrong there. Last night I was whining about Golson's defensive abilities and we saw how that turned out!
I can't argue with the need to make sure Swish and Gardner heal properly. But man it has to be tough to let Curtis bat there. It certainly felt that way.
[152, 157] Thank you. I feel at least minimally less frustrated now.
Although this game still feels like getting run through with a hot poker.
I hate their 20,000 fans.
I have a lot of hate to spread round, though.
This feels like a bad idea.
[172] Even without using those two, Kearns and Curtis shouldn't have batted in that inning.
[171] And yet you were so likely to be right.
Do they close with Benoit, who I think has pitched two nights out of three?
I guess they have some other options, as well, including sticking with Balfour.
[175] I think I'd rather see either one of them over Miranda. He feels like the Andy Phillips of a new generation
A quick scan of his game log indicates that Soriano hasn't gone 4 games in a row this year. I guess Maddon can't resist going for the throat, and I can't blame him
But Soriano pitched Sunday in Toronto, and the last two nights. He also pitched on the 10th, so that would be 5 games in 6 days.
Granted he's only thrown 28 pitches over the last three nights (only 5 last night) but he's still had to warm up too. Should be interesting.
Let's see...16 games/6 game lead over Boston. Not likely, but the Yankees have nothing wrapped up.
[173] I'm just frustrated. given the payroll disparity, how the hell aren't the Yankees owning the low rent Rays.
[172] If you look at my post [4] in this thread, I think the division is a really tall order, regardless.
And yet that doesn't stop me from making tortured noises over here.
[179] Now, to play Devil's Advocate, Girardi infamously took his foot off the gas around this time last year and it wound up working out.
Now, I think last year's team was good enough to overcome Joe's playoff crap and I'm not sure about this one, but I guess we'll see.
[180] Cost of living is higher in NYC
[174] By giving up the lead, they massively increased the likelihood that Joba could handle the 8th. So there's that.
No one but me seems interested in the fact that Tampa's closer is pitching for the 4th night in a row, but I hope the Yanks get him into deep counts, foul off pitches, etc. This reminds me of a few years ago when they did that to K-Rod.
So anyway, if they wear him out in the 9th.....
[182] The Yankees didn't take their foot of the gas until the division was won.
If the Rays had a bigger lead, Jeter would be plunked for real.
[185] Oh, I'm interested. I hope the Yanks win and Soriano's arm falls off.
[186] That's not true at all. We were handwringing over the division last year as we were resting people left and right.
[188] Excellent. It's the first time he's pitched four times in a row this season....You just never know with baseball
wow, Jeter should've walked there....
WOEFUL at bat there from Jeter.
Argh, that was a God awful at bat.
I'm trying to figure out if I;d rather lose here or have Jome Run Javy give it up.
{194] The jorror ... the jorror ...
Ball four
I want a good old fashioned mugging in the Bronx next week. Maybe we can get the Baseball Furies and the Warriors to join up.
I think it goes without saying that the Yankees need to sweep Baltimore, right?
[189] Our memories are vastly different. Yankees did not let up last year.
Why is Soriano allowed to run his hand in the dirt?
[189, 199] I'm pretty sure the "THE YANKS HAVE GIVEN UP!!!" chatter pretty much started right around the time Jeter got the record, which was 9/11. about 2 weeks before they clinched.
Hey all. Been a rough week eh?
[197] Did you know Swan went on to be in Xanadu with Olivia Neutron-Bomb and Gene Kelly??
[201] Exactly. IIRC, the Z team played out that series with Baltimore
[203] and then had a recurring role on Sex and The City!
ummm...at least thats what I heard
mk is giddy.
Ok gang, that was pitch number 21....now let's pinch run for Teix and get a nice long at bat out of Arod.
Oh Jesus. I'd rather Teixeira just strike out than this.
[204] yup, at this point last year this place was already in full-on panic mode. go back and check the archives, i'm sure its all there.
RUN
As someone once said, it always comes down to Arod.
this is gonna end so painfully
R U N
As usual, up to Alex.
Swing
Brett Gardner is the worst speedster I have ever fucking seen.
[203] I hate disco. Never saw the film and refuse to believe Gene Kelly had any role there.
Wait not at that
of...fucking...course
Striking out on three pitches there is pretty bad
24 pitches....4th day in a row.....I guess Rays fans say "In Sori we trust"
A. Bronx. Mugging.
I. Demand!
ARod looking to pull the ball......
Yikes!
Dang. I really thought they were going to do it for awhile there...
no SB attempt????
le sigh
The team that played to win, won. Can't really be too upset about that.
That sux, Goodnight.
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I find a reason to hate everyone, but it galls me to lose to this team that pulls 29,000 to this game, with 8 or 9,000 of those being Yankees fans.
That's pathetic.
F***, S***, P***.
[225] PINCH STAND THERE
I thought he was past it, but I got the sense A Rod was looking for a HR there
The team that hit 2 two run homeruns ... also won.
Fucking chokers.
[201] You're probably right! That game does standout along those lines.
Well bright side is Hughes had a good game. Giving up four runs sucks but it was a weird four runs
I have a hard time seeing this team getting out of the first round, if they hold off Boston.
They are getting guys back, though...
I sure hope they don't make the race for a spot interesting. I don't think I can take that.
[236] Again, I can't say he had a good game when he made the same mistakes once again. Just because he was very good around the mistakes doesn't excuse them, IMO.
I still have problems with Joe G..no PH for either Curtis or Kearns..Gardner not running AT ONCE when he pinch ran....I can't stand close losses...
[217] You would not believe this film was ever made..how much coke were people doing in the 70s to budget such things?
[236] He blew it.
And seriously. Its now gotten to the point where everyone knows that Brett Gardner isn't going to run and Soriano didn't even look at him. Element of speed my ass.
for what it's worth, i believe we did turn off the gas last year before cranking it up again. I think that's the way to go really if you can get away with it. The guys need some rest and healing. And you don't want to go into the playoffs flat. we're doing worse than we ought to right now though. Too many men left on base tonight for sure.
Another managerial screw up. Why was Hughes allowed to pitch to Johnson in the 7th inning? Joe is clueless. I hope his spouse is house hunting in Chicago.
[233, 236] I really hope Hughes career (minus his 8th inning stretch last year) doesn't end up being one frustrating outing after another. Right now, I'm frustrated.
That pitch to Johnson - I do not forgive him. That was a bullshit job by him. Seriously, Phil, enough. It's bullshit to lose your concentration that badly time after time after time. He's not giving up all these home runs by accident. STOP FUCKING GROOVING PITCHES.
[238] [240] All right, maybe I'm lowering the bar for Hughes, but let's say the game was better than most of his recent starts. I mean he gave up all four runs on two HRs to a guy who had three total going into the game. Albeit he hasn't played a lot, but still. This wasn't 100 pitches and out after five, at least.
[244] Time for moral victories ended weeks ago.
And I'm serious, BTW. Why do they let Soriano run his fingers through the dirt?
Hughes slots in rather nicely as a #5 starter. Unfortunately, he's on a team seemingly filled with #5 starters right now.
Really, I think if Swisher was playing, the Yanks win that one easily. Kearns was awful.
[247] I'd bet the house that if Swisher was playing, Granderson wouldn't be
[248] I dunno, who would play center then? Curtis?
Golson.
Gotta rest everyone you see.