Season is on the line once again tonight for the Yanks. Win, and they force a Game 7, lose, and they go home.
Here’s the line up:
Derek Jeter SS
Curtis Granderson CF
Robinson Cano 2B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Lance Berkman 1B
Nick Swisher RF
Jorge Posada C
Marcus Thames DH
Brett Gardner LF
I say Berkman is the hero should the Yanks win.
Nothing else to add but the usual (this time with feeling):
Let’s Go Yan-Kees!
Heard this statistic: Home teams are 8-17 this post season.
Inger Stevens (rest her soul) committed suicide. Hope that the Yanks go out fighting.
I still want a look at that cap if tomorrow ever comes.
Have a real bad feeling
Everyone keeps saying they're not looking past this game ... as they look past this game. As words upon words unspooled over the last two days about facing Cliff Lee in Game 7, I started imagining them from the perspective of a Game 6 loss, all that wasted breath. As a mental exercise, it was pretty convincing. As I have a feeling the Texas win tonight will be, should it happen.
It reminds me of that Lee game where the Yanks were down 2-0 and I was thinking shit he's up to 124 pitches or whatever, we still have a chance, and as it turned out it never came to pass because before the team could even get its last licks in versus Lee, the book was closed on Game 3. Looking ahead, looking ahead. It can be a sad thing!
That being said, let's go Yankees blowout! I mean blow those Rangers the **** out!
I also think Berkman will have a moment in tonight's game, but ultimately, it will come down to Arod. Like last year, the Yankees will go as far as Arod takes them.
For those looking for a good omen, in game 5, Alex walked twice. During the regular season, he worked at least two walks in six games (only six?). In the games immediately following, he went .429/.577/1.286.
[3] Hey, that's usually a good sign!
[3] [6] i've lost track. except somebody needs to be at Leos.
http://youtu.be/gAGP24eq_0o
Game 7, here we come.
Grrrr...got to pop out for some work..hope to be back by the 5th. Go Phranchise! Go Go Yankees!
I've been geeked up all day. All I ask for is a good. game. And then enjoy game 7. : )
Go Yankees!
I'm nervous, but I think they can do it. C'mon, Phil Phranchise.
[6] Frankly it is. I felt real good about games 2-4.
UMMM ... we have rain :-(
Oh .... and MLB Network is now on channel 489 on Time Warner in Brooklyn and Queens (it used to be on 783)
[14] Ah...verging-on-November baseball.
[14] Game delayed?
ugh, i so just turned on the game and it's raining! booo! booo!
IT'S FUCKING RAINING??
You have GOT to be kidding me!!
In TEXAS?
Wtf?
Like my nerves need THIS??
Agony extended!
oh tarp coming off already? sweet
Hello, everyone. I don't know whether to be positive or negative.
Hmm . . . a rainout could be VERY useful. Instead of having CC for just an inning or so tonight, the Yanks could have him on short rest in Game 7 the minute Andy needs help (if he does).
Let's see what happens.
Wouldn't rain help the Yankees? They could then skip Hughes and have Sabathia and Pettitte going.
[21] [23] Nevermind. I've got some work to do, so I'll be back later . . .
Great, game will get started, then there will be a 45 minute rain delay after 4 innings, leading to a Mitre or Javy appearance.
It. Is. Time.
Evening, everyone! Got a good feeling about tonight...hope it doesn't rain too much.
[26] No, a CC appearance.
[28] You and Mattpat [3] should get together. You'll merge and turn into Prof. Longnose [22].
Come on Jeter. : (
just win. just win.
nice at bat grandy!
Good take.
Run!
[26] Good (good?, "good") news is there is a 60% chance of rain tomorrow. Maybe Lee's start will get fouled up...if the Yanks make it that far.
[36] Interesting possibility: 2-hour rain delay in the 4th inning.
[36] Interesting. So, Lee and Pettitte get replaced by...? CC for us?
not a good at bat from robbie.
time to step up clutch-rod!
Someone needs to break out...
I guess he's due for a couple lousy ABs, but I really wish Robby had given Granderson a chance to steal there.
I'm a fucking nervous wreck already.
A-Rod is jumpy, again. Send Grandy!
FUCKING FUCK!!!!
Dammit.
bull. he was safe.
Ummm..he looked safe.
Fuck that, he was safe.
SAFE!
Man, he looked safe.
Fuck.
I blame you, mjpucci.
I hope this isn't going to be one of those Chessmaster days.
[52] See, I had a good feeling only because I wasn't curled up in the fetal position before the game. After that call, I've taken my shoes off.
Not even close, really.
[52] Come on, we all know you LOVE plays.
Let's go, young Philip.
Good curve.
[55] We don't do plays.
Waitaminute...
Good 1-2 pitch.
Oh, good, Ron Washington is also going to play chess. Unless Elvis is allowed to bunt on his own.
NOOOOO!!
Fuck!
Good Phil. Outside location and you miss by a foot.
Was Granderson in right field or something?
um, phil. you missed your location by two feet.
Uh, boy. Come on, Phil.
Wasn't a bad pitch.
He's a little nervy. He'll calm down.
I've been reading how Hughes can't put away guys with two strikes, but no one says why.
That one was right over the dish.
Fuck.
I feel ill.
Just awful early signs. Yankees too aggressive and missing hittable pitches and then Hughes/Posada continuing to make mistakes with the fastball. In other words, game 2 all over again.
The outcome of this series could wind up coming down to the decision to have Hughes pitch twice.
Hughes is up. Yanks better score a lot in this game.
[69] Yeah, I've wondered that myself. It has something to do with the fact that he relies so much on his fastball.
Young was right on that curve.
Get the pen started.
I dunno, some of these curves are a little too juicy for my liking.
Any chance for a rain out?
[73] He needs an out pitch.
If Hughes isn't going to throw inside fastballs, pack it in now.
they just foul his strike two pitches off pitch after pitch.
YES!
Michael Young's ab's drive me fucking nuts! Nice K!
Hey, no bunt? Is Washington asleep?
Reached back, got to 94 to put him away, from 92. Ok.
He's gone, thank God.
Vlad...
[79] Excellent reverse jinx!
94 on that last pitch. a little extra.
Walk him.
[84] practiced it all day! oh fuck
Jesus.
GET.
THE PEN.
UP!
Pray for a ground ball here.
Easy dp for Bad Vlad. FUCK Hamilton.
Hughes location is brutal. He is going to last long in this game.
We need another GIDP from Hamilton.
Oof.
Almost guaranteed the Rangers will try that double steal again. Will Posada bite again?
FUCKING COOKIE!
GET HIM OUT OF THERE!
Throwing strikes to Vlad?!?
[94] Posada should come up firing...right to Hughes. Maybe they could get Andrus to break.
Hughes can't come close to the target.
[97] was just thinking that.
[97] I remember when they did that with Roger. Uh, can't remember against whom.
Nice curve. Finish him off.
Pfew.
Ok.
One more.
Shit.
fucking shit
Hell yes.
well, one run is no big deal. gotta keep them there though.
Should have walked Hamilton. Or at least pitched around him.
They have to hit.
I'll take the out. Long game.
More awful pitch selection. If they keep living on the outer half, this game will be over by the third inning. It's incredible that they could make the same mistakes on both sides of the ball.
Get the damn curve down.
got him. good job phil!
CHBW.
Man, that could have been so much worse.
And it will be if he doesn't straighten his shit out but yesterday.
That could have been.
Just get through five and keep 'em close, Phil.
1st pittch jitters out of the way. Let's go O!
*exhale*
I really wish this Andy Pettitte going tonight. I can't see how Hughes gives them a quality start.
[115] That could have been worse.
On the one hand, things could be worse. On the other, how many times have we seen Hughes give up a run here, a run there, and before you know it it's the 5th inning and it's 6-1?
[110] it wasn't pitch selection. Andrus had the big hit and on that one Hughes missed his location big time which was critical. Hamilton's hit I don't recall the pitch though. But nothing else was hit well.
All right, that could have been worse. Could have been better, but could have been a lot worse.
Runs, please.
Only 1.
Coulda been worse.
Now let's score some FUCKING runs.
[117] I think I'm still waiting to! I can't be a wreck this early!
[119] funny thing is i read that and thought you said "worse". I knew what you were going to say so i totally missed that the word wasn't there.
Hm, I made a mistake -- for some reason I thought 1st and 3rd with one out was a higher run expectancy than it is. The run-scoring groundout was a good result for TX, not a bad one.
Well, anyway, he got out of it without any more damage.
Anyone seen the crack pipe? Or the valium? Or something?
Jesus, I'm a nervous wreck.
No, william, Hughes really did throw a lot of inside pitches. Maybe they got too much of the plate, but they weren't "living on the outside".
[127] Ditto.
OH, COME ON!!!!
Can't we even catch a fucking BREAK?
damn. nice catch as alex strokes that nicely.
OK, they might just be snake-bit this series.
BIg Fucking Deal.
Damn. Robbed.
I'm really starting to dislike that Anus feels ...
berkman swinging at everything?
[132] Get serious. What you mean is: good, they're hitting hard enough, those will start going through for sure, Texas can't stay lucky for long...
[135] You dislike what???
Uh, that should be ANDRUS FELLA.
STOOPID android auto-substitution ...
i guess i'll ignore the strike zone box.
[137] ...got 'em right where the Yanks want 'em...
That sort of thing?
FUCK A DUCK
OK, I've made up my mind. I'm going with negative.
[139] hahahahah!! Anus Feels. Good old Anus Feels at shortstop.
No hitter after 2 innings.
Big inning for Hughes.
what i worry about is that the bad breaks of hitting balls right at people will get the guys to "try harder". aka press.
Swish wants to punch anyone who talks about Lee in the fucking mouth...how about getting a fucking hit off someone named NOT Lee Swish. I love ya guy but crimeny!
[128] According to my count, nine were on the outer half, including three that were put in play. That's way too much. After game two, they should have adjusted. After one inning, it doesn't seem so.
Too bad the Yankee hitters don't bat against Hughes. He could use the confidence boost like the one they are giving Lewis.
Okay I'm tense...who here isn't. *breathe*
Although, frankly this game has got an 'anus feel' to it going already ... and I don't like that either.
Did someone at TBS pop in a tape of Game 2?
Anus Feels! A new nickname!
Elvis Andrus anagrams to ANUS DRIVELS
(you're welcome)
C'mon, Phil. 1,2,3, baby!
[152]Agreed
[151] I've got the Maalox at the ready.
i'm pretty sure andrus has heard the anus jokes before.
[158] I need more than that!
btw, if it weren't for the obvious grade school humor it brings out, i like the name andrus. when said correctly it has such a cool ring to it.
[149] The Andrus double was inside. The Hamilton single was outside. Cruz flied out on a low cutter, near the middle.
[159]
and when he faces Pettitte, its Anus and Andy ...
(groan)
NIce pitch, Phil.
[163] haha. groan worthy for sure. :)
[163] Hi, Diane. :)
Wow. What zip code was that?
Yeesh. Nice work, blue. That'll be called about 1 in 10 times.
[161] Which was is correctly? All the announcers just say it as if it were "Andrews".
nice and easy inning!
ClappityclapClappityclapClappityclapClappityclapClappityclapClappityclap
Nice job, Phil.
Nice work. Let's go, O.
I for one welcome our new robot umpire overlords, whenever they arrive.
What was that?
One-two-three?
Praise Jesus.
Now let's get the ol' Truck revved up!
I knew he'd settle down.
[169] you know, good question. i say it An-Druce. But maybe that's not right.
[174] Kiss ass.
[162] The Vlad groundout was away too. Hughes needs to be on the inner half, which is dangerous for him because his location is iffy. If he lives outer half, they'll take him to the opposite field and he'll always be leading them right to the curve ball.
It must be tough for a young pitcher to execute a game plan under such pressure, but again, that's why Andy should be pitching tonight.
If Hughes can keep the game in line, hopefully the bats will spring to life second time around.
[176] I'm relieved you were right.
[179] You know what's odd, is that the Andrus double was straight to CF. Not the opposite field at all -- Granderson was playing Andrus to hit the other way, which is why it went for a double.
Howz about this no-hitter?
Gotta put some hurt on this putz.
[179] You're taking the stance of 'You can't lose Game 7 until you win Game 6 so go with your best,' but if we used Andy now who would you then start tomorrow?
They're not even making him work.
First pitch shit is fucking maddening.
Lewis isn't Lee. Take some damn pitches!
ok we're making this too easy
Complete game shut out on 73 pitches?
I need to stop harping on Hughes. This offense's approach has been awful, so it may not even matter who is pitching.
Dear God
booooooooooooooooooo Fucking Colby Louis.
NEEEEERRRRRDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[185] I think he means the rotation should have been set up differently, with CC going three times, short rest.
message to yankees: all pitches on outside corner are strikes. no matter how far outside. unless we throw them.
I'm slowly drifting from nervous wreck to demoralized.
[195] Even if we throw them (cf. strike three to David Murphy).
Brett Gardner should just have the umpire put two strikes on the board before he comes up. It would save everyone a lot of time and me a lot of angst
Gameday had one and two on the corner, and strike three off the plate. This could be a long night if Cy Lewis gets call off the corner, what with his untouchable stuff.
[185] I am referring to the same point I was harping on since before the series. Andy should have gone in 2 and 6 on full rest, with C.C. going 1, 4 and 7.
[198] No shit. Cripes!
The good news is this ump has a really wide strike zone.
The bad news is this ump has a really wide strike zone.
[197] you're right. i was just being pissy.
[198] Would they be added to the pitch count?
Brett Gardner, playing Carl Crawford back into his job.
Seriously, here's a tip Slappy, SWING THE FUCKING BAT.
nice pitch. wow
[204] Sure, why the hell not.
Folks, that's just Brett Gardner. He can't hit those pitches. So he watches them, and if he thinks strike three is in the zone he tries to foul it.
It works pretty well for him.
[205] A guy with no power has to take pitches to get walks. Gardner's been great at working counts this season.
[205] The first two batters took about three pitches between them...Gardner should have been taking until he got to two strikes. Now, whether he should have swung at "strike" three off the plate (which the ump seems to be giving tonight) is another story.
GET THE MOTHERFUCK OUT OF HERE????
WHAT????????????
why did the strike zone suddenly change for hughes?
If Hughes implodes again, I hope it doesn't set him back. He also must be dead tired. He has never pitched so much.
In 2010, Gardner set the record for highest pitches per plate appearance since they began keeping the stat (true!).
Hughes doesn't get the 1-2 pitch that the ump was giving earlier.
Uh-oh, we have a Rudy G. sighting...
But that was strike three before!
Fuck you, blue.
Just fuck you.
grrrrrrrrrrr
0-2 to a walk? ugh.
[212] He got a call on the curve, strike one. I think the curve will get called out there, the fastball not. There's some kind of optical illusion or something.
Phil's location sucks. It has sucked all year. FUCKING BULLSHIT.
0-2 for fuck's sake! Don't be a shithead.
[216] Yep
[219] i'm pretty sure lewis is getting the fastballs off the plate on that side.
Yow. That was right in the spot that Elvis drilled it in the first. The pitch was, I mean, obviously not the hit.
God, he's getting away with a LOT of mistakes.
[210] The goal should be about getting base runners and then runs. "Working the pitch count" should be the secondary goal, not the primary.
He's missing by a TON. ; (
[222] Yeah, maybe. But I believe his fastball breaks differently from Phil's.
[225] But he does get on base as well as almost any Yankee.
Fuck.
Another lucky break.
Two out.
Another crappy outside fastball. It's time to take Hughes out now. We've already seen this approach doesn't work.
Whoa. Exhale. Rinse. Repeat.
[225] a hitter can't just change his approach and expect to succeed. You are good at what you are good at.
Its time to start warming someone up. You can't pitch with one pitch.
OH MY GOD
who couldn't see that coming .... sigh
Crap.
JESUS CHRIST ALMIGHTY!!!
FUCKING JUST SHOOT ME.
Finding new ways to lose.
Oh, fuck. Are you kidding me? Fuck.
Was that a strike?
Of course.
[225] He led the team in OBP. Clearly he gets on base by working the count.
Rich Ankiel.
kid is jacked up. settle down hughesy
Fuck if he didn't almost throw it away again.
Jiminey Christmas Hughsie, cut a fart or something to relieve the pressure!
You know he's rattled when he can't even IBB someone.
Too dramatic to say this is the game?
God, don't throw that pitch again.
Just keep him in the park for Mo's sake.
[247] Nope. It could be.
Fuck. I blame Girardi for that. IBB to Hamilton is just fucking stupid. (Though I admit it's not stupid because of the high frequency of IBB WPs.)
Up and in.
I was feeling optimistic about this game until Phil started pitching. He's gotta be tired or something.
Hopefully the result of this game will facilitate Girardi's exodus
Thank Mo for Robbie.
Cano scared me, keeping his back to the infield.
Word. Still in it. This is torture.
PFew.
This can't keep up.
Another bullet dodged.
Great pitch.
Go get 'em, Phil!
phew. can someone find my heart? i'm having trouble breathing without it.
He escapes.
But he really looks nervous. Can't blame him, but jeez, the kid is in over his head here.
And once again, the ol' IBB/WP play works out, just like they drew it up.
[241] I just think that going up there with a game plan of "no matter what, I'm taking the first two pitches. I'll work from there" is faulty in the playoffs when theoretically you're facing the best pitching in the league. The pitchers are now throwing meatballs for strike one because they know he won't swing. Maybe if he does he'll hit a double.
[257] Sheer and brutal agony.
So. Howz about this no hitter?
[264] I FEEL GOOD!
Does anyone you know acutally watch Lopez?
How about we break up the no hitter (& shut out) this inning, Cap'n.
[265] A no-hitter? Wow, the guy whose Mom named him after cheese has a no-hitter?
[266] I don't know whether to laugh or punch you in the face so, seeing as how I like you and all, I'll opt for the former.
Well that sucked.
[263] I'm not going to question the approach of the guy who led his team in OBP, and scored 97 runs (fourth on the team, despite having between 130 and 160 few PAs than the guys with more runs scored).
And those were NOT meatballs. All three pitches were on the corner or off the plate (check Gameday).
What other park are you going to see some a-hole swinging the state flag? Ugh. Jeter hit the shit out of that one.
Here we go. Curtis will break the spell.
no hitter. no hitter. no fucking hitter.
[273] No other states even know what their state flag is. Can you imagine a New Yorker waving a state flag??
Come to think of it, I do know what the RI state flag looks like. But I've never waved it.
[275] I like your style!
better at bat robbie? please?
Do NOT send Grandy. (I'm changing things up.)
Take this Fucker deep Robbie
[276] I did a report on NY in school so I know the flag. Have never waved it
Patience, please, Rob!
i'm heading out for a bit guys. gonna pick up some pa state flags.
[267] Nope.
[276] I live in a place where the "state" flag is ubiquitous.
I'm going to cry.
Holy shit. This is brutal.
[269] I had to use the google machine for that one. Never heard of it. Learn something new every day at the BB ; )
Oh, Christ.
The perfect way to end this post season would be a 27 batter no hitter.
Fucking damnation.
Christ on a cracker.
oh bullshit. look, a lot of bad luck here. i'm concerned about that.
Not patient.
Just might not be there night or series.
[279] OK, that didn't work either.
Just wanted to pop and say what the FUCK is up with the bats? I guess the same thing that's been up with em most of the series
Looks like we need to sign some luck in the off season
And now a fucking talking baby ad.
[285] But I like the Maple Leaf.
[285] That's right. The fleur de lis.
Yeah, definite 'anus feel'.
[286] I'm damn near at that point. Fuck.
i broke up with my girlfriend for this?*
*slight distortion of actual events...
colby fucking lewis. really? again?! : /
and fuck this little elvis fucker.
oh, and this claw & antler business is crap. total bullshit.
I'm oddly confident. I believe we're going to win this game.
I teach the NY flag to my students. Lady Liberty and Lady Justice, Baby!
[297] That nails it.
[305] oh put that reverse jinx away. i don't like that one!
[305] I'm with you...we just need Phil to keep his act together for another two or three innings.
[298] LOL
From my experience visiting the state, they are Texans first. Never saw the state flag flown so much. Can't say I think that's a bad thing though. It's kind of the principle upon which the union was based.
[303] And again, LOL!!
that's ok. we'll pick him off.
gotta love the 4-pitch walk.
FUCK!
[309] Of course, a four pitch walk doesn't help.
Phil's gassed. That's my take. But I don't think he's been all that this season despite his numbers. Oy (Oi!) But I like OY better.
i'm still weirded out seeing the confederate flag and i've lived here for over 14 years. it's ubiquitous, and very very odd. me no likey...
I think three of those four pitches were in the strike zone.
[314] [315] none were wild pitches so i consider it a success!
All right! Myman doesn't blow a pop-up.
[316] i actually say Oy slightly different than i say oi. weird i know.
[319] To be fair, though, he was not attempting an IBB.
Ruh roh, a Molina sighting.
[317] odd fact, you see the confederate flag here a lot too. stupid western pennsylvania has never quite figured out how north it is.
That fastball was 88?
Watching this game in work clothes was clearly a mistake. I've now moved into more casual wear, Score Truck to follow.
molina thumping his chest is so incredibly unimpressive.
I dislike flags of all kinds. Not the way they look, just the whole idea of a flag for a geographical entity. It's... tribalistic. Or something like that.
FINISH HIM!
Bengie Molina pounding his chest in slow motion...there is something wrong about that image.
Do you IBB Molina with a man on first? - Girardi's thought process
[330] we seem to be on the same page right now...
Agony.
[325] A cutter, I think (if I know which one you mean).
[328] But surely you like Championship Flags?!?
[334] Ah. Cheers.
[331] Good thought. If that doesn't clog the bases, nothing will.
If there's a game 7 I'll let my freak flag fly.
Whatever that means. ; )
Ron Darling just said nothing slows down a game like speed. Look like someone's been listening to the Michael Kay Lecture Series.
[328] what about flags that are on single eighth & sixteenth notes and rests? (32nd & 64th, too!) those flags are fine! : )
Godddd, pitch the baseball!!!
[337] OK, you're the math guy. Here's a question:
Is it better to IBB Molina to clog the bases, or let him hit a HR to kill the rally?
[335] Mmmmmmm.
Yes. And pennants. And the ship kind.
As long as it doesn't lend itself to flag-waving, I'm fine with it.
[328] We can get by with good old whole notes very well, thank you.
[340] Oh, man, those are the best of all. HEMISEMIDEMI baby.
[342] I'll have to check my Clutch Expectancy Grit Chart.
Pitch count doesn't matter. Phil is gone after six anyway.
Please finish off Bengie Molina. Please.
YEAH!!!
that'll do.
Thank you.
[342] Split the difference. Walk him, but then overthrow the first baseman on a pickoff move and let him get to third.
Thump that, asshole.
WOW!
Well that turned out well.
*EXHALE*
Thats one way to counter the stolen base.
Dear Yankees,
Phil's pitching his guts out. Get a fucking hit. Then another. Then some fucking runs.
Sincerely,
The BB Gang
Mr. OK Jazz is back from work now, everyone needs to calm down, you all sound like this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9KyBdPeKHg
Yanks are going to mash up the Cheese-man on the mound and whup some Texan ass. Feeling confident!!
[345] Wish I had one of those charts.
[345] crotchets, quavers and semi breves!
Come on Alex, launch one
I hear the score truck comin'
It's rollin' 'round the bend...
[354] Where do I sign?
[354] Damn effing straight!
[359] I think its flight to Texas was a little delayed, but I expect it will arrive any moment now . . .
[345] RI - you'd love this book i have. it's called: HEMIDEMISEMIQUAVERS...and other such things. [A Concise Guide to Music Notation]
good stuff!
[350] I like your style, too.
[357] And the dots. Don't forget the dots. Double dots whenever possible.
RUNSSSS!
[355] good timing! do you have the score truck keys?
Y'know, if the Yanks put up a bunch of runs, I bet that would settle Phil's nerves a lot.
End this no hitter, A-Rod.
WALK HIM!
HIT THE FUCKING BALL!
[367] Mine, too.
With regard to flags, I'd like Michael Kay to announce all Yankee games by semaphore.
Can Lewis throw anything but junk that's out of the zone?
[366] 100% Japanese efficiency Score Truck technology! Go Go Yankees!!
[369] [370] Could we coordinate the screaming a little better than that, please?
I shot a man in Reno...
[374] woo zoom zoom!!!
A-ROD!!!!!!!
YES!!!!
Yaaaayyy!!!
Ok, do this thing, fuckers!
Do it!!!
One handed that sucker. Whoo-hooo.
Haleblinkin'lujah
Yay!
Damn, A-Rod looked like he hit that off the end of the bat.
HA!
[372] That reminds me of the Monty Python skit of Wuthering Heights by semaphore
A hit! And in scoring position.
Nice hit, Alex.
[375] My bad
[372] I would pay to see the extra feed of that.
As long as he couldn't talk.
Come on, Berkbonk.
[362] I must have that book, thelarmis.
[364] ah, augmentation dots aren't so cool. tough to teach, too. students have a hard time fully gripping the concept. a few years ago, i finally came up with an easier way to teach them.
don't forget minims!
Goddamn it!
oh damn i thought that was gone at first.
My Name is Lance. How do you do?
Damn, I thought he had that. Got the job done, though.
No!!
I'm really glad Berkman is up. I'm afraid Girardi would call for a bunt with anyone else.
Sigh. Thought it was gone. But I'll take the runner on 3rd.
OK, sac fly, I'll take it.
Alright. IN THE AIR
GOTTA get this run in. Please....
Just not enough to get it out.
Ah, Man-on-Third-Less-That-2-Outs, we meet again.
WOOO!
Now what?
YES!!
HBP? Looked like.
Almost...
No-hitter's gone, and now so is the shutout.
Or is it?
Wow!
A run!
A run!
Kick their asses out!!
OK, that's one way to jump start the Score Truck.
Hmmm...do we take that trade?
The umps will fuck this up royally, somehow.
Nope, it hit the ground first.
Wait - does that even matter?
Molinas are a danger to everyone. Even teammates.
Fortunately no replay for that.
What happened? I just went to pour a drink.
What the fuck ever, if that's what it takes.
Tough fucking shit. Payback's a bitch!
Oh, I get it.
Maybe th eump thought Swisher was faking!
[412] No.
[411] Two men on, even with no run, is not a bad thing.
Anything that rattles Molina up is also not a bad thing. Let him get pissed and make some mistakes calling pitches.
They can't review this, can they? Do the Yankees have a special acting coach, who teaches them how to react when they are/are not hit by the pitch?
Why would Swisher have gone down like that if he wasn't hit there? The umpires are awful.
[412] doesn'tmatter. second time in this series swisher has been hit and they missed it.
[385]
Yes ... that what I was going for ... :-)
Makes up for the stolen base they took away from Granderson.
Would that have scored the run?
[422] Swisher went down like he was shot.
Small Ball runs = Mini Score Truck... i'll take it!
[376] i'm playing that song on sunday.
[390] i got it in college. penn state bookstore. $12.50. dale wood is the author.
you could always just pick up the pocket dictionary of Music Notation. Alfred publishing. your local Border's should have it. $6.95 and worth every freaking penny and then some. essential. but it's all USA, so no mention of the incredibly strange, pointless, useless - yet fun wording - by the brits (minims, crotchets, quavers...).
THAT would have scored the run.
Please Joe ... don't pinch-run here
Fair fair fair RUN RUN RUN!
Damn shame Swisher didn't beat that throw to first . . .
Bring him home, boys!
[429] thanks for bringing the keys! we were lost without them.
2 out Rally!
[415] Whatcha drinking?
RUNS!
CASH IN, CASH IN!!!
[427] With the Yankees luck, it would have been a DP.
Wait, actually, it would not have scored the run because Swisher should have been on 1B...to score on Posada's double!
The WP was better than a HBP would have been. Run in, nobody on, one out, that's better than corners, no runs in, one out. (Better run expectancy.)
Luck's turning our way now.
Hit it out, hit it out!!
Marcus has gotten some big hits here in Texas this season. We need one more...
I'm guessing the media will focus on that one play which is now hurting is.
He's late.
[436] Gin and tonic. (As long as it's still baseball, it's still summer, despite the chill outside.)
[430] You a singer?
Again I have to ask. Why is the 1st base ump and right field ump 20 feet away from one another? Just stupid.
[441] The more runs, the better!
[436] Hmm. A drink. Good idea, rbj. I have some Saranac Pumpkin ale in the fridge.
[415] i can't drink til next thursday (too much work). cult had a beer for me before. go ahead and have a drink for me, too! : )
At least they made the fucker work some this inning, even if Thames can't deliver.
[445] Vodka tonics for me.
[448] how is the saranac pumpkin? my favorite of late is the southern tier pumpkin. my god it's amazing.
No chance.
I had a Boylan's Sugar Cane Cola ...
Rats.
[448] Yum. (FUCK.) I have some Long Trail.
Good idea.
Time to hit the bottle, Team!
Hughes and Cheese are both pitching two-hitters.
Son of a fucking bitch. Could they stop swinging at Lewis's slop out of the zone?!?!
ARGH!
Even when we get a break it ends up bitin us in the ass.
[448] [452] Had a pumpkin beer once. Just once. Course, I also don't like pumpkin pie.
Now we need Phil to hold them down
And they've both thrown 67 pitches.
[446] good god, NO!!!! professional percussionist and drummer. classical symphonic percussion, not hand drumming. i did have to pass a vocal proficiency in college. i've got loads of funny stories about that one. yeesh! : ~
Did he say 2 for 21 with RISP this series? Amazing we are still playing. We are hitting just as badly without Teix as we were with him.
[452] Its really good. I haven't tried the Southern Tier pumpkin, but I usually like their stuff.
Saranac also has some kind of new Oktoberfest-style beer; I might have to get one of those too!
[456] I do feel like we were all drinking a lot more last year in the postseason - or at least, discussing it more. To the fridge!
I'm having a Josh Hamilton special. Ginger ale.
I'm too freakin' nervous to be drinking.
[463] I'd love to hear 'em. Send me some at sesquipedalian@mindspring.com any time you want.
You doing a symphonic version of Johnny Cash?
I'm an ASCAP member, and a proud mediocre ukulele player.
I am conflicted. I wanted the ump to rule WP, but that's kind of like playing small ball. Having the extra runner would have had much more potential.
[465] i'll have to check it out. thanks
I myself am a great air drummer ...
[460] I hate pumpkin, won't eat pumpkin pie - but pumpkin beer is great.
My wife made pumpkin cupcakes the other day, and those were good too. Tasted more like carrot cake than pumpkin, IMHO - and I don't like carrot cake either! ;)
[454] i had barq's root beer! now, i'm onto brita water...
[460] i don't like pumpkin pie, either. of course, i've never actually had pumpkin before... : )
I love pumpkin pie.
now if only we had a first basemen or something.
I miss Teixeira ...
Jesus Christ!
Thank God Jorgie was there.
That was...interesting.
You can't have a play like that in a game like this.
Just think how good Phil will be when he remembers he used to have good control. Heal by spring, Teix.
[465] Maybe we've all matured a bit.
Mitch Moreland has really turned into a pain in my ass.
Right now I'm thinking about the fact that it's a bye week for the Jets. That is bad timing ... for me anyway.
Where was Berkman there?
ANUS DRIVELS at bat
[480] WOAH! drinking less means being more mature? i'm never going to mature...
Can't give the run back.
[467] ha! my jazz trio backs up a pop-country band. we're playing a very country version of Folsom Prison Blues.
i, too, am an ASCAP member. both as a publisher & writer.
i hope to release my solo percussion cd by the years end. just waiting on the finalized artwork...
Interesting: Darling (or was it Smoltz) just said that as a pitcher you hope they sacrifice and "give you an out."
[480] Or, as [466] randym said, too nervous.
[485] Heehee!
Welcome Jazz. You brought us some luck.
Ummm ... Ron .... Berkman has 717 games at 1B in his career .. he KNOWS how to field a bunt.
[484] Ranged to hole but could not make the play. Hughes was slow covering 1B.
[489] Definitely. Seriously, I would have poured myself a beer earlier but I've just been sitting here in nervous paralysis.
[488] Yes, exactly! Pitchers know.
the new Sierra Nevada seasonal is called "Tumbler". it's their autumnal brown ale. it's rather dark and very very tasty. i highly recommend it. good cold weather beer.
[492] But Diane, there's not too much bunting in the NL.
Come, on HUGHES
Boy, you can see how this inning will play out: after Young makes out, another Hamilton IBB and another Vladdy showdown.
Keep it together, Phil.
[497]
ROFL!
[488] i missed that comment. good to hear that coming from the broadcast team.
[487] Sounds interesting. How do I find it?
[498] That was an unfortunately placed comma hahaha
[483] The shitty international announcers were saying that Hughes was way too slow to the bag. It looked it. They keep saying he looks tired.
Nice, Phil.
I swear to god I thought he was going to fire to third.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......Beeeeerrrrrrrrr.
2 outs!
Okay.
They won't really IBB Hamilton, right?
oh, drinking PBR. since we're all sharing.
Dave Robertson warming.
Maybe they should get him to IBB Hamilton.
Did Girardi flash the "IBB sign", or the "No WP-IBB sign"?
[503] i saved your email addy. when it's out, i'll prolly have a website put up and i'll link to it here with my name. least, that's the plan...
[505] Boat! I got back from the morning バイト to catch A-Rod's 2-bagger. Talk to you later about the jazz, etc?
Oh fuck me.
i have no problem walking hamilton. but he scares me.
Big Expectations. Please keep him in the park.
Anyone have anything to settle my nerves?
It's deja vu all over again.
These IBBs are giving me IBS ...
Smart walk!
So, do you stick with Hughes v. Vlad, or go right to Robertson now?
[509] hopefully, we'll be drinkin' together next summer in state college. but goddamn, i'll NEVER be drinkin' a PBR, yo! : )
[512] Happy to be on your mailing list.
Go after the hitter. There are two outs.
[515] but i just remembered that vlad scares me too.
Shit. Didn't Girardi learn his lesson?
INTENTIONAL WALKS ARE BAD BAD BAD.
WHERE WAS THAT?
OMG, how was that not a strike???????
That's a fucking strike!
[517]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtbrLIwKWWA
That should of been a strike!
[521] Stick with Hughes. He looks fine.
fuck
And another IBB crosses the plate. Just went too long with Hughes.
Had a real bad feeling about putting that run on for Vlad.
Crap. Crap. Crap.
Motherfucking damned shit to hell!
That was...predictable? Sub-optimal?
And NOW Girardi pulls Hughes.
FUCK ME. Thought that was an F8. MoDamnit!
goddamn motherfucking cocksucking bullshit!!!!!
stoopid IBB.
and missed strike 1 by the ump.
: (
oh fuck.
Jesus Christ.
Fucking, fucking IBB. Fucking Joe Girardi.
So if Joe's going to D-Rob now, why not before the double? I guess the binder told him to stick with Hughes.
[499] You called it.
GOD FUCKING DAMN YOU JOE GIRARDI. I hope your ass gets canned.
DON'T INTENTIONALLY WALK ANYONE you bitch fuck person!
*deflated*
DOUBLE(CF)***
(for those Strat players)
[543] I'm worried that he's going to start mixing and matching.
I have to admit, I don't understand why you pull Hughes now. If you think he's out of gas, pull him BEFORE Vlad bats. Otherwise, he gave up a dribbler and was ordered to IBB Hamilton. One hard hit ball to Vlad.
Girardi continues to show an unfortunate lack of feel for when to remove his starter. Another big factor in this series.
Jazz go back to work. You're killin' us.
How many times are they gonna get punished by IBB'ing? Well... that might be the last time
We suck! I hate to say it! They ought to know this guys swing at everything so why give him a decent pitch! What a dumbass pitch. Inside or away this guy wants to hit something and we obliged him! Dang! I guess kicking off in their a$$ for years finally caught up wit-us!
Fuck you and your meatballs.
FUCK YOU AND YOUR MEATBALLS!!!
Hmmmm...Meatball Truck. I might like that even better than Score Truck.
The judgment about when to pull Hughes is not obvious. Not putting Rangers on base for free is obvious.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Robertson had a shit series?
Damn how do you suppose to eat a meal that comes from your opponent moms. Man, she put their already bats back to sleep! This is unheard of! Wow!
*wincing*
Here's the thing - even in 2010, you don't IBB someone, even Josh Hamilton, to pitch to Vlad Guerrero.
[556] 5 ER, 3 IP I believe
I don't know why Girardi pulled Hughes. His batting practice stuff is just as good as in the first inning
Ok, third curve ball was good.
First two were practically on a tee.
The Yankees will score more than 4 runs this game.
[557] Nah, Yankee bats entirely capable of going to sleep by themselves.
[563] ?!
According to reports, Girardi is already coming back, so apparently the new Yankee brass is happy with second best.
sigh sigh sigh
[563] It won't matter anymore.
Oh well.
wow. season over.
i really thought we'd pull this out...
: (
look, both hughes and robertson need to be capable of getting those outs. fact is if the players we need to perform don't perform we can't win.
[566] Fourth best
Well its a full moon and I hoping for something crazy and as I'm writing this a hr and listen to the music is CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's cold! Well we had this comin NY! HA!
Yeah. Bringing in D-Rob for Hughes: not obvious.
I . . . I . . . I . . . I've run out of curse words.
When's spring training?
fuckin' intentional walks...
...
Well, I guess I can go for my usual Sunday run tomorrow morning.
And I have to watch the rest of it because it's the last game of the year.
TBS announcers are having a jizz fest. Damn, damn, damn.
I hope the Yankees know how to fix this for next year.
sure, why not...
I can't believe he couldn't trust Hughes to get one more out.
Damn. The one thing I knew I couldn't take would be Girardi over-managing the game into oblivion.
Fuck.
I have to go be miserable by myself. Check with youse tomorrow.
What can you do when every move backfires? And no, I am "blaming" Girardi or anyone else at this point. It's just that every move, every tactic, every play, every non-play seems to blow up in the Yankees faces.
Ron Washington >>> Chess Master.
ummm ... is anyone else warming up?
[581] In two words: Cliff Lee.
[583] Well, he had shit all night.
at least i won't be freaking out on stage tomorrow nite. recording a live dvd/documentary and i was worried i'd be preoccupied with the score. no need to worry now...
Giving IBBs is bad.
Pitching to Hamilton is worse.
Is coach gonna give his team a chance? Dang, pull his ass whether somebody is ready or not!
Fuck Texas with a rusty chainsaw.
Can you fire a manager before the series is over?
[585] Its the opposite of last year when the Yankees won in spite of all Joe's bad moves.
[587] if they don't get him, they're in a shit ton of trouble.
Fucking monkey shit! Can't win them all. FUCK!!!
i hope andy comes back next year...
You'd think an ump would know a curveball for a strike.
Kerry Wood is warming.
Man I gonna watch the movie Predator! Holla atcha next year ladies and gents! Still had an al-ight season!
[590] Uh, no. That's wrong. IBB is worse than pitching to Hamilton.
d-rob has been brutal in this series.
please get robertson out of there. he;s awful.
Robertson isn't fooling anyone ....
They just weren't good enough. They've been a .500 team for two months.
Pull Robertson now. Mid batter.
[603] The binder says he's pitching well.
[556] Yes, but the real reason NOT to go to Robertson there is he gives up too many home runs. Yes, he strikes a lot of guys out, but in a flyball park like this place, you don't go to a flyball pitcher, even if he strikes guys out. You go to a GROUNDBALL pitcher.
A single sucks, but far less than a homer or double or triple or whatever.
I can't believe Robertson is still in this fucking game. I have never been angrier with Girardi in my whole life.
D-Rob has NOTHING tonight. Pull him now, middle of the AB.
still within a grand slam.
and wouldn't that be grand...
So after all that, we go up hacking at slop, right?
Yanks will tie this is up shortly.
[607] i know you're being hyperbolic but no it doesn't. he was lights out the last time he pitched which somehow makes it more frustrating.
The only thing potentially working in the Yankees' favor is that the umps suck. It is POSSIBLE to score four more runs on blown calls.
Hughes' ERA for the postseason: 11.42. Robertson's: 20.25.
mount eerie rally cry
I actually don't think he should've taken Hughes out there. Whatever.
The Yankees are just playing poorly. The pitching sucks for the most part, so does the hitting. The managing too. Not a good combination.
Again, the real crime is setting up the rotation so AJ/Hughes pitched as much as CC/Andy. How anyone could justify that is beyond me.
It really is a shame. I'm not as angry as I was on Tuesday when Joe gave away the game though. Just kind of sad.
Do I dare to wtach the end, PRAYING for a miracle?
[619] Yeah. They can't win every year, but I hate to see them lose like this.
When Gritner's second at-bat comes in the 6th inning, you know it's not going well.
I don't believe you guys. If he pitched to Hammy, and Hammy hit one, you would all be calling for Girardi's head for not IBBing Hammy. That's the right move there.
Bottom line is when the Yankees fail, it's Girardi's fault.
[611] That's what they did for the first four innings.
Sadly reminiscent of Game 6 in '04 . . . Dealing with junk shouldn't be this hard.
Gardner has been a zero. Next year, Yanks need to make him the 4th outfielder and get themselves Crawford or Werth.
Looks like Derek Jeter has a wedding to plan.
pathetic.
Jeter's AB just look awful.
[623] Most of us had no problem with the IBB. Girardi's been bad, but so has the team.
The team is just playing atrocious. Credit to the Rangers but let's face it the Yankees have been a joke in this series
[623] No it was not. Not with Hughes having iffy command all night. Not with Vlad "I can hit a ball in the dirt over the wall" up after Hamilton.
The intentional walk is NEVER a good idea, but it especially wasn't here. If Hamilton hit a home run, c'est la vie. It happens. At least it was Hughes going after him, instead of just giving him first base.
Well, like I said if the Yankees got completely shut down by Colby Lewis twice in a week, they just weren't good enough.
[623] I don't blame him for that. If he did it the once, you're going to do it again.
I just don't understand: if you're warming someone up, why wait until after the biggest AB of your season to do it? And why make it someone who's struggled all series long?
I'm never going to criticize the manager for not IBBing someone. I don't think the IBB is a good idea, unless it's to get to the pitcher under NL rules. Even the best hitter makes outs more often than he gets hits.
[631][ Who says the IBB is NEVER a good idea?
[623] To be fair, RIYank is consistently against IBB.
I was ambivalent about the IBB. My only complaint is the decision to pull Hughes only after Vlad hit the double. If Hughes was on the short leash, then pull him sooner. If not, it doesn't seem right to pull him when he gave up only one hard hit ball all inning. Also, if you are willing to warm Wood in the fifth (which he was), and he is currently your best not-Mo reliever, then go straight to him.
Garbage.
Absolute garbage.
boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
man these announcers get so excited when the rangers do well. it's nauseating.
colby fucking lewis. he'll prolly get destroyed in the WS...
I'm not even so upset about Joe's pitching decisions, as the offense has gone totally dead.
Jeter is symbolic of this Yankee team. Just keep doing the same thing over and over hoping for a different result. Insane and annoying
RI is most agains the IBB when it's to load the bases...
[639] i think it's every announcer on every station in every series - everyone's just happy to see the yanks lose. i really and truly hate it. makes me sick.
[642] Baseball is statistical. You get all kinds of different results doing the same thing.
ALCS - Up to this game:
Hammy: .316 .458 1.000 1.458 - 4 HR
VladG::: .273 .273 0.318 0.591 - 0 HR
So (and with a RHP on the mound) you guys pitch to Hamilton instead of Vlad?
[623] You pitch to Hamilton with Sabathia or you bring in Wood to get Vlad. Those are the only two options. Instead, we get Hughes to Vlad and then DRob for the white flag. Girardi's bullpen management has been putrid, but Hal and Cash "like" him, so next year we'll have more of the same. Judging by how long it took to figure out Torre was past his better days, Joe G's bumblings should be an October tradition throughout the decade.
[639] [643] Which is weird, because from a television perspective, the Yankees always do well ratings-wise.
[635] Diamond Mind
Now Kerry Wood comes in.
[645] i agree with you and said so at the time.
So here is Kerry Wood, probably for two innings...AFTER the game has been blown up. Someday some manager is going to use his bullpen differently.
[646] Don't count on it. With Rodriguez and Jeter guaranteed playing time for the next few years no matter how bad they might wind up, Octobers are not guaranteed.
[647] I think what television has figured out that the yankees might have more fans than any other single team, but they also have more haters than fans (because overall there are more fans of other teams combined than of the Yankees).
[653] and what that means is good ratings by basically rooting against the Yankees.
Well, fuck this and fuck them.
I think blaming Girardi is the easy route tonight.
They made Lewis look like Cy fucking Young and their run was horseshit.
[651] Can't argue with that.
[649] Let's hope its not too little, too late!
[646] Not sure about CC vs Hamilton, but "you bring in Wood to get Vlad." is exactly right. You use the strikeout/GROUNDBALL pitcher, not the strikeout/FLYBALL pitcher.
No sense in saving Wood for the 7th or the 8th - the game might have gotten away by then.
so, does kerry kome back next year?
certainly not with his $11mil option. maybe a cheaper 2-year deal? or does he look to close elsewhere next year?
...No one here gets, out alive.
Think that inning could have come in handy in the fifth? Bringing in Wood after the damage is done is an indictment.
Ya know, when 40% of your rotation going into the season is A.J. Burnett and Javy Vazquez, it's amazing the Yankees made the post season and made it to the ALCS.
[655] Yes, they haven't been good enough to win. Girardi hasn't helped, but he was just another factor.
But Matt [632] has the bottom line.
We have not hit a lick.
[657] and you can do that because you have CC out there for the 7th and 8th now. You couldn't do that otherwise without waving the white flag later in the game.
Hughes got squeezed on a clear strike, but he'd gotten plenty of gifts up until then, and no one told him he had to throw a fucking cookie on the next pitch to Vlad.
At least we're spared the sight of Cliff Lee abusing them tomorrow night. I have other things to do. This year has been unpleasant throughout. I always knew it would end shitty.
[658] They say he can probably get better money to close somewhere else.
[655] I agree. Girardi almost singlehandedly lost game four. He's not been helpful tonight, but you have to be able to hit Colby Lewis.
Everyone in this Liberty Mutual commercial needs to .....
For the love of God, go down with everything you got. Don't pussy out and lay down. If they get this, that's all they'll ever get. 27 is waiting to turn into 28 before they ever get 1, let alone 2. (that's the booze talking).
[661] Exactly.
AJ Burnett is a fucking piece of shit. Nice number 2.
They didn't hit for shit this series. Some of the guys are hurt, some of the guys have no excuse.
You're not winning scoring one run on a bad call.
[661] Girardi made 50% of his playoff rotation AJ/Hughes when it could have been 65% CC/Andy. That's the issue.
I had a bad feeling when Jeter grounded out on the first pitch of the game. Stinkin' thinkin'.
[668] die?
[671] That's AN issue. Their hitting is another.
[658] Wood has been very good, but if its at an inflated price, I see no reason to bring him back.
The Yanks have plenty of kids who could come up and throw gas out of the pen, if they'd just let them (Albaladejo comes to mind, among others . . .)
79 pitches through 6 innings. That's just over 13 pitches/inning. Why oh why oh why, no matter who the players are, does this team built on taking and raking, hack its way through postseason games against shitty pitchers?
Look at this **** pitching into the seventh giving up one dubious run. The Yankees can't fucking hit!!! Jesus Christ, hit the fucking ball!!!
Colby Lewis is simply too good. (puking)
[667] Girardi has sucked too, all series. But yeah, tonight, come on folks, these guys simply did not execute.
Hughes pitch to Vlad was fucking pathetic. And it wasn't even the first pitch after the IBB. It was cause Phil gets all freaked out by a single bad call.
The number of guys hitting below .200 in this series says it all.
This team had too many parts that sucked all year, or were a threat to suck all year, and the extra parts were, with few exceptions, sucky throughout, as well.
[659] nice doors reference!
[671] I put that one on the list, but far down it. The offense, the poor bullpen usage, and the offense are all ahead of it, at least.
wait, berkman hit a triple? wow
I want to kill A Rod right now. Just because I know how awesome he could have been
Score. Fucking. Him.
Fat Elvis with the triple!
PLEASE PLEASE . . . RUNS!!!!
[671] You think Girardi made that decision ALONE? Without Cashman, Eiland and others? Are you dreaming? Or are you just on your Girardi hatefest?
"The Natural" mys ass. The Natural should be able to pass a piss test
This could be the last game of the year, so I am here 'til the bitter end. So let's see some fight. Come on, Swish.
Or not.
It was nice enjoying that Yankee rally for 3.5 seconds.
[678] That WAS an awful, awful pitch to Vlad. Though he'd thrown it a few times before
What a fucking joke. The hitting sucks. I don't care what Girardi has done.
they're playing like they have a plane to catch ...
Got to love the Yankees going up there ready to hack.
I think Hamilton is drunk.
This year has been headed for a wall for a long time, and when Tex, after sucking enormously, pulled a gasket, this shit was done.
My last fucking statement - fuck the Rangers for this: I hate EVERY team that used ballgirls. It's the stupidest, shittiest, easiest, corniest, shtickiest garbage a team can pull.
I hate those teams even more when the girl goes giggling out into right field because she couldn't field yet another wall ball.
So fuck the Rangers.
The upshot here is I won't have to worry about the Fox/Cablevision dispute resolving itself.
[671] I think there are times when a manager is sending a subtle message to the GM -- you've given me crap players, and I'm going to demonstrate that by playing the fucking piece of shit players you've given me. I think Torre did it at times, and I think Girardi is doing it. Phil should be in the pen right now. With a real #3 in the rotation. Javy should never have been signed. A.J. was enough of a risk.
Muthafuckingdamnit, even a gift triple can't be converted.
[691] Its just unreal.
[687] I, too, am here to the end.
Can someone look up how many times Swisher swung at the first pitch he saw all year? WTF?!?!
Of course, Swish swings at the first pitch with a man on 3rd to eliminate any chance of a WP.
i like Puma. an all-time great switch-hitter. hope he gets an everyday gig somewhere next year. i'm sure he will...
it's miss texas, show her the whole time, dammit.
this game sucks ass.
did they really just come back from commercial just to show nolan ryan clapping and go back to commercial?
[685] I'd imagine that Girardi had the final say. Managers usually do on how rotations are setup. If Cashman was in agreement, shame on him too.
[694] dude, i don't get the ball girl hate at all. what the frack is wrong with ball girls?
Wow, if the Giants don't win, this might be one of those years I barely watch the WS.
[671] Last year, as I recall, you were highly critical of Girardi's (?) decision to go with a three man rotation.
You know, part of me is going to be relieved when this season is over. It has been overly stressful and not all that fun for almost two full months
Kevin Long ain't looking too genius right now, btw.
This team pissed me off all year. A few nice moments, a few good rallies, a couple guys it was easy to like, and a bunch of guys it was easy to hate.
This year is a missed opportunity, and that sucks, but this was simply not a World Championship caliber team.
[693] i wish i was.
won't be drunk til next thursday. [i'm off next friday, so i can sleep it off...:) ]
The Yankees stunk it up this series. Maybe they'll stage a ridiculous comeback and upend Lee tomorrow, but as of right now - they just brought nothing besides a great inning in Game 1, a great Pettitte performance, a gritty Sabathia in game 5, and Robbie Cano, in general. That's it. At a certain point you gotta divorce what you want from what is or has been. It's tough.
[702] i think the old people is far schtickier
[700] I missed that, and am I'm glad I did. I've never hated Nolan Ryan more than during this series. At least he doesn't have company tonight - THAT would be just perfect.
[706] Agreed fully.
[706] I was just going to post about Long. He's done miracles at times, but you can't ignore the fact that much of this team hit below par this year and especially in this series.
Texas is making it look might easy.
[702] yeah, i have zero problems with ballgirls. oh, and the braves girls that dance on the dugout - ooh la fuckin' la!!!! : o
I'm actually going to be in SF next Wednesday through the following week ... if Yanks aren't in Series ... WS tickets might be easier to come by out there
(rationalizing)
well, at least it wasn't a leadoff walk. ; )
sigh
oh, just fucking hit him in the ribs then...
WTF ....an IBB with no outs?????????????????????????????????
[714] ha yeah, well those girls are probably in a league of their own. :)
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE SHITTING ME.
AGAIN with the IBB?!?!?!
AGAIN!!!!
Die in a fire, Joe Girardi. Die in a fucking fire.
Give Girardi credit...he really doesn't give a fuck what any of us think.
[704] I questioned the wisdom of going with AJ and Andy on three days rest in the ALCS because they had a 2-0 lead. In this series, the only guy who needed to go on three days rest was C.C., so it wasn't a similar issue.
[685] Does it matter? It doesn't solve the hitting problem but it would have given us chance in this series. Don't you think having Lee available in games 3 and 7 didn't give the Rangers some confidence in this series?
[719] Girardi doesn't know what else to do.
Man, Girardi is scared silly of Hamilton
now, THIS is what RI hates more than anything...
Texas going to beat TB and the Yankees to make the WS...impressive.
Yankees just don't have it this year...
[702] Keep in mind I hate LOTS of things.
Ball girls are shtick. Stick some kid out there who's going to hustle his rear end off all night. If you show me a ball girl who busts it, fine. But I guaran-motherfucking-tee you 96% of ball girls out there do more giggling than hustling. It's a cheap play.
A bunch of them are a fucking hazard to themselves. And that just sounds sexist because I've actually watched the ones they put on the field - they're there for shtick and for nothing else.
It's SUCH a Red Sox thing to do, btw, so, it shouldn't be a surprise that I despise it everywhere else.
What the record for most IBBs in a row?
I hope they hit a grand slam. I dont even want the Yankees to win anymore
Kinsler's going to hit a salami.
[726] aren't you? the dude has creamed us all series.
ok, another IBB? actually, I definitely support this at this point. Look, ANY more runs puts this out of reach. so why the frack not IBB and create a force? if they hit a double we're fucked anyhow.
[708] And we may have seen the last Andy Pettitte game.
Seriously? Your team is about to advance to the WS and you're chanting "Yankees suck?" No "pro our team" chants?
You know what would be great? if they brought in Tubby Chamberlain to ice this.
[705] Don't want it to end for obivous reasons, but this was not a fun year, mostly because of how Girardi turned September into the equivalent of killing the clock. We shouldn't be surprised that this Yankee team couldn't rise to the occassion in October after playing September to not get hurt.
I'd like to think this team will be in line for significant changes, but I think Hal is happy with the four playoff gates and the increasing revenue.
At this point I hope they jack one here so the camera can pan to Girardi's blank stare.
out of grand slam reach...
How come we keep getting routed?
Remember how we used to talk about "WHEN" we went to the World Series?
Wait. You're allowed to score when there are guys on base. What the duece?
[733] No. No one has a 1.000 OBP. Every time you walk a guy you take the chance of getting him out, whether its a 7 in 10 chance, a 6 in 10 chance, a 3 in 10 chance, and make it a ZERO in 10 chance. Its just stupid. I don't care about the force, I can about not putting runners on base for nothing.
Why aren't we walking Murphy? There's a base open....somewhere.
[734] Don't say that.
Andy's coming back.
No one's allowed to even suggest such things.
I think we've collectively gotten irrational.
[729] i always figure the girls are from softball teams and are real players. generally seems that way to me and they hustle and try to catch it. i think it's definitely better than the old guy schtick....
[739] Its really not all that good of a team?
[733] Hamilton is good but it doesn't do much good to give him a free base every time either. This whole team seems dickless
oh god, please come back, Andy. please please please come back!!!
[pretty please.]
[715] Root for the Giants for me. I got to watch Cody Ross when he was with the Mud Hens in 2003.
[709] I've never seen old people ball people. I don't know what I'd say about that. Sounds stupid, as well.
I hate that I'm praying so hard for Jeter to take a reasonable contract if he comes back.
Crapping out here could save us for years if it lessens the millstone that a Jeter contract could be - but if we get both... that's going to hurt.
yes, go Giants. beat the phils, then beat tex-ass.
i'm down.
Girardi has already ordered his NEXT IBB of Hamilton ...
[749] I think he will.
You don't win a lot of games when you get 3 hits.
coupla loud outs.
i can't believe it's teh 8th inning.
i hope texass trots joba out there to pitch to the yanks. we'd grab the lead in no time!
[751] One of the west coast NL teams have them The Giants or the Padres or someone
Bottom of the order coming up.
[754] me too. : )
[733] But why care about OBP with that guy? You're not IBBing the lead off hitter. You're trying to prevent the OBP guy from scoring because he's already on base. your goal here is primarily to prevent a hit. And you can change those odds by creating a force situation. Just my opinion I guess but I stand by it.
[706] [712] Before lame-ass calls for another IBB and I throw my computer through the wall - I don't think you can hold the Yanks' crappy ALCS with the bats against Long. Anything can happen in a small sample - and on the whole, he did fantastic work this year. Cano is a big success. Swisher's walk rate went down a bit, but he had his best year at the plate. And Granderson after the re-worked swing has been unreal. Pre-thumb injury, Gardner hit well too.
Tex had a not great year - but I'd chalk that up to injury. Jeter is old and was due for a downswing. A-Rod's hip probably wasn't 100%. I don't think you can blame Long for those.
I think Long is an asset and the Yanks would be wise to keep him around.
[752] Certainly who I'm rooting for.
Goodnight, Banter. Thanks for being there all season.
I think we all knew how this one would end. I hope they can fix some things for next year. There's some things that sure need fixin'.
[744] I've got my fingers crossed for him to come back. There will be no Javy, and maybe make A.J. a luggage carrier for road trips. Maybe convince Nova that he can pitch 6 innings instead of 4?
[761] You sold me. Sign him up.
Things I've learned from the 2010 ALCS:
I gotta buy a 3D TV from Mr. Sulu and watch Conan on it.
If I grab some guy to keep him from walking in front of a truck, I'll set off a chain of selfless acts that culminates in my grabbing some guy to keep him from walking in front of a truck.
Derek Jeter has seen 0.89 pitches per at bat this series.
Age has caught up to Scott Bakula, Ray Romano and Andre Braugher. Not "a certain age," just plain old age.
It's football season.
[761] I think those are all valid points.
[761] Fair points, and I'm not saying he's not an asset. But genius is probably a lot too strong.
colby fucking lewis.
goddamn scumsucking cockhead piece o' dogshit.
i feel better now that i've turned the volume down and let the music take over.
I can't fucking believe Colby Fucking Lewis is still standing on the mound and he's give up one fucking run. And it was a gift. Epic Disaster.
Anyone remember Charlie Lau?
Go Go Giants, hope they take down Philly and sweep Texas.
[736] I don't think the team really needs significant changes - this team does perpetually win 95 games and won a WS last year. It does need some change, but let's come back to Earth. Most fans would kill to have a team this good to root for year in and year out.
And I have killed Girardi non-stop, but really, if the team hits and the starters pitch better, Joe and his binder wouldn't hurt us.
[760] your goal here is primarily to prevent a hit. And you can change those odds by creating a force situation.
You goal is to try to prevent runs, not to prevent a hit. Even though it goes against baseball wisdom, you increase the chance of giving up runs by issuing IBB. It's a high-risk/high-reward strategy (if you get lucky, you get a force play at home) that hurts you more often than it helps.
[773] It was a different team from April to July than it was from August on. But which was the real one?
You Banterers may think you are upset, but I 'm watching the loss while listenint to Sutcliffe go on about "These Rangers really make productive outs, they're all about TEAM under Ron Washington.."
I feel ill...
[776] Ouch. I feel for you, man.
[776] A swig of the Pumpkin Ale for poor Mr OK Jazz - you have it far worse than us.
steal all the bases.
That's something.
Hey, monkeypants, your zipper's open!
Sorry, been wanting to yell that for a week.
Oh look - a Yankee runner on base. OK Jeter, make sure you swing at the first pitch you see from Lewis! Gotta catch that plane!!!
Here comes Derek Jeter to swing at the first pitch and beat it into the ground.
[779] Then go around again.
[773] By significant, I mean the manager and two guys who have become major distractions: Joba and AJ. Cashman has to try and get something for Joba, but I would just eat as much of AJ's contract as needed. Yankees really need a big time pitcher, so if they don't get Lee, things could get dicey next season.
[769] whachya listenin' to, pal?
[774] I don't agree with the presmie that you increase the chance of giving up runs. You increase the chance of giving up an extra run, but you are trading that for decreasing the chance of giving up the other runs.
To know whether or not it hurts more than it helps (on average) you would need to do a fairly heavy statistical analysis that I haven't done. It depends too much on whose on base, what the score is, who is up, and who is on deck. Oh and who is pitching. Or might be if you make a pitching change.
Sutcliffe: "Jeter set the tone in that first AB, he hasn't got the ball out of the infield tonight"...
sigh....
[771] Yes. *takes a moment to remember Charlie Lau*
omg, jeter - you look god fucking awful.
just terrible.
ooooofh
Great AB Jeets.
boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
That swing by Jeter kind of symbolizes the end of era for him.
i have that overwhelming feeling that we're never gonna win another world series. ever.
I think that just took a million per year off Jeter's next contract.
[786] it's a mix. my yankees playlist actually. coastal drag at the moment though.
I really, really hope the Yankees have some kind of plan this off season.
[791] where in north cackalackie? i'm a Queens boy in GA...
[773] I don't think Joba's been that bad. His peripherals are good, and they have a very high BABIP against him. I think he'll be OK. They can't get rid of AJ because of the contract. They'll probably start him in the rotation and give him a month. If he doesn't recover, bullpen.
I may cry .... I need a hug .....
[798] Re-sign Jeter and Rivera.
?????
Profit!
The biggest mystery of baseball is hitting. How it can just come and go, regardless of the pitcher. How Hall of Fame players like A-Rod and Jeter can swing at the first pitch for almost an entire series.
well, at least we get to watch Mo work. that's always a treat.
Let me just say out of pure, small-souled spite: Teams that play the theme from "The Natural" for home runs and have cutesy little fan things (antlers, monkeys, thundersticks) are completely bush no matter how thoroughly they humiliate us.
Ya know, playing the Giants would have been a treat.
[789] When he was the hitting coach at KC, every Royal had the same batting stance.
Jeter gets tied up on Lewis' hanger. My how the mighty have fallen. I think the mats would have roughedbup Lewis tonight.
[802] I do think we need to re-sign jeter and rivera. It's just a good business decision, baseball success aside. Trying for Lee is a no brainer. Trying to see what Jesus can do at catcher would be smart too.
[800] Agreed. I still would like to see Joba at the #5 starter next year.
[805] It might still happen!
Mats=Nats
It's Mo. I was expecting Joba.
[799] Chapel Hill, three years outta the UES.
[801] aw. long-distance HUG!!!
[801] Intercontinental hug-vibes sent!
Sutcliffe: "It's actually kind of embarrsing to see Marinao Rivera pitch in such a situation.."
Forget signing Cliff Lee. I want another chance at beating him next October.
[801] *HUGS*
When the team in your heart
Lays a post-season fart
That's statistics...
[815] yeah i'd love to beat him too. but i wouldn't mind if he won for us either.
Binder says bring in Mo.
God Bless Mo. Seeing him on the mound always makes me smile, even in the worst possible circumstances.
Dear TBS, please don't ever show Ron Washington and his statute dancing ever again. Your announcers are bad enough. That was horrific.
Fondly,
All Baseball Fans Everywhere
Just think about what happens if you move Wood and Mariano up one inning?
[814} ???!
Sutt: (dramatic voice) "And how appropriate for these fans to see...Alex Rodriguez make the final out..he bats 3rd next inning..."
[812] I'm UNC class of '04. How's the Hill treating you?
[795] Maybe not the CoreFour™, but the Yankees will.
[823] seriously? what a tool.
A 7 run comeback in the 9th sure would be one for the ages. If not I have one more team to add to my most depised list. It's getting pretty long.
I'm very, very tired. It's been a long season.
[823] oh, goddamn. FUCK sut! dumbass motherfucking cockbag.
[808] Maybe he could resurrect the Yankee bats?
[808] If they don't get Lee, I don't think they have a chance
[823] that's beyond obnoxious.
Oof. I just got home to this.
This series has been a craptacular end to a truly craptacular week.
Girardi is like the morning after pil taken a month later.
I'm not the only one, but karmically the ridiculous talk about what are they gonna do against Cliff Lee in Game 7 was diabolical. I could see this coming a mile away, much as I wished against it
I like girls. Especially when they are running.
On paper, we had a very good team.
Jeter, ARod and Teix didn't live up to their papers.
That's why we have lost.
[824] Well, right now my TV's in Chapel Hill and it's killing me. :) But we love it here. My wife is a UNC grad and when it was time to leave Manhattan and get a backyard someplace in America, this was a natural fit. I'll give your regards to Franklin Street.
i'd love it if Mikey Moose came back next year! ; )
[787] You increase the chance of giving up an extra run, but you are trading that for decreasing the chance of giving up the other runs.
I'm not sure I understand you here, but I think that you saying that you increase the chance of giving up multiple runs, but decrease the chance of giving up one run (i.e., increase the chance of giving up zero runs). That's more or less what I said: high risk, high reward strategy.
Plenty of computer simulation studies (someone cited an article about Diamond Mind, above) and historical studies have demonstrated that on average you give up more runs by IBB.
But, as you say, it *may* increase the chance that you give up zero runs (even though when it blows up, the strategy yields worse results). If that is the case, you should only IBB when it is absolutely necessary not to give up one run and additional runs are not relevant (i.e., tied in the bottom of the ninth on the road). But in almost all other circumstances, historically, it really doesn't pay off.
[836] Heh. LOL. Me too.
OK, here we go
OK .... which of you guys gave Sutcliffe a brewski ... you KNOW he can't handle his liquor.
Mariano, padding his post season stats
thanks Mo. i love you!
Just got home to see Jeter's last at-bat. I want a hug from Ron Washington too. :(
[836] And AJ and Javy sucked.... but that didn't surprise me.
Just watching Mo one more time settled me down a little.
And thus spoke MO: "Lo! I am MO, and you shall not score on me, or get on base, or show any kind of threat. Sit your asses down, motherfuckers."
three outs to get five runs. Not tooptomistic.
[834] OK, that's the comment of the game.
[821] That's kooky krazy talk, man.
[803] They didn't hit much in September either. I really believe the approach taken that month played a big part in how October ended.
Colby Lewis should have had 8 shutout innings. I don't give a flying fuck about Girardi.
AJ hating aside, I don't know what you can realistically do with him. I guess I would get him in a room with Eiland and say "For the next 4 months Eiland is your roommate, coach, brother, and priest" or something ridiculously stupid like that.
[843] Or getting in one last hurrah? I shudder at the thought, but it's there.
Jazz. It's sad but the Japanese team on NHK is worse. They called Berkman's triple a double. Then the obilgatory, "eh".
BAT AROUND! AND THEN SOME!
[854] Eiland didn't do a bit of good the last three months.
Find whatever fool team will take him and run like you robbed a bank.
8 walks in a row ties the score.
[854] Oh, I thought you were going to say, get him in a room and break his fucking arm -- both upper and lower -- to place him on the 60 day DL and ensure he doesn't pitch in 2011 or take up a 40 man roster position.
Things I've learned from the ALCS, continued:
If I go to Taco Bell I just might get slapped on the ass by Joe Girardi.
I will always have a yule log/Barry White video cued up on my iPhone.
In commercials, Mo talks like a native New Yorker from the '50s.
You can by rum in the supermarket.
Granderson's two walks came on pitches in exactly the same place.
[854] Yeah, what to do about AJ. His numbers before this year suggest he'll rebound some next year. Then again, some of his peripherals have been trending the wrong way for three seasons and he's gonna be 34.
I guess you slot him in as the #5 starter next year and start looking for one or two (depending on Andy) arms for the rotation.
[861] You can in Ohio. The rum that is.
[861] Gotta say, I'm really enjoying this stuff. Keep 'em coming!
how many of the players on the rangers are from texas?
One fucking run.
One lousy fucking bullshit cheapo run.
I'm not looking forward to the Girardi interviews after the game.
Would it have killed to run hard one last time, Robbie? Oh well, guess I can't get on the one guy who did anything this series.
here comes the solo blast....
That was some great hustle by Cano
Sigh. I'll hold my glass high in a mournful toast.
"I hope they do it on the next one. I really want them to win."
My five-year-old daughter (meaning, "next year") after I tried to turn this into a teachable moment about life, joy and disappointment. I love her. I love the Yankees. Thanks for the ride, boys.
[867] I hope A-Rod hits the ball a mile.
I'd like to say this was fun, but...
Just no.
The worst part of this series loss wont be felt until after learning Girardi is coming back because then I'll know we can expect more of the same in the future.
[864] you go to kroger? that's the main place here. well, that and publix. but it's mainly krogers...
[852] I have to agree with you there. When the team takes their foot off the gas during the last month of the season, it doesn't seem to work out well. The sloppiness carries over into the postseason.
[873] A nice thought.
Go Steelers. Go Penguins. Go Sabres. Fuck the 6 months without baseball.
: (
[863] Any second pitcher they get is likely to be awful.
Good night, all. A hot stove awaits.
I don't think that was a strike
well, it's been fun folks. i guess we'll have an interesting off season. at least i'll spend less time watching tv for now. With that said, freaks and geeks is on...
This is a sad day for America.
Well, the good news is everyone will be EXTREMELY well rested for the next game. In April.
Good night all. And a pleasant sleep this winter.
brutal. awful. terrible. upsetting. very very sad.
: (
Ball called strike seems fitting.
Utter domination
[876] Are there any restrictions on manager contract language? I'd love to see some clauses like:
"For every intentional walk you call for, you are fined $100,000."
"For every dumb ass bullpen decision you make, you are fined $100,000."
And so on. I imagine he'd learn quickly.
Well, that's the season friends. C'est la vie. Go NL champion?
An addendum to my spiteful comment earlier about what's bush: Fireworks at a ballpark. What are you, fucking Disneyland? (I know, one of the teams actually is.)
i hope tex-ass gets swept by the giants.
[877] Meijers, actually.
So, what were the 2010 Yankees? Nothing to hang your hat on this season. Kind of sad.
[886] nice.
Sigh. It's going to be a long, lonely winter, isn't it?
[891] If you put in a pinch runner and don't run him a crazed 20 something from Long Island will hunt you down.
Happy for Vlad, but Go Go Giants!
[895] Old team..
[899] Very old team. Time for post mortem later. Good night all.
[895] Yes. Now I become a National League fan. Go Giants. Actually they really are my NL team. I was born in San Francisco.
Now my five-year-old is doing a Freddy Patek in our family room. As much as I hate this game outcome, it's really something to see this through her eyes. I just told her about the thing called "next year," and it's amazing to think that for her, it's a new idea.
[898] Nice one! How about we change it to, If you put in a pinch runner and don't run him, a crazed 20 something from Long Island gets to whip your ass?
Cue up, "How am I supposed live without you. After I've been lovin' you so long." Jeez, I guess I can concentrate on work and life now.
And yes, Tejanos, we still ARE the evil empire. Booga Booga. And we're coming for your ace.
Someone put some of that Ohio rum in Hamilton's ginger ale. How's THAT for evil?
[902] That's fantastic. Hope springs eternal, especially in the young.
[900] Good night to you, rbj, and to everybody else. It was a fun ride, sometimes.
It's been a lot of fun bantering with y'all this season. It's going to be a busy, intriguing offseason with all the moves that need to be made and contracts signed. Thanks to Alex for hosting this, and I'll see you guys further on up the road.
I really don't feel as bad as I thought I would. I think I just knew this team simply wasn't good enough.
[907] The one thing I will say is the Banter has no offseason. I'd like to hope we'll all be here tomorrow morning bantering about how the Yankees should fix this.
Drink up, Team!
Drink up!
Flash talking about coming out swinging rather than working counts.
We need a new leadoff hitter.
[908] But when they smoked the Twinkies, you had to be thinking World Series. I was.
[895] So, what were the 2010 Yankees? Nothing to hang your hat on this season. Kind of sad.
weird year. started with such promise. some fun players to watch. but a lot of frustration and disappointment. Successful, more or less, on paper, but the total seems like less than the sum of the parts.
And so much of the season was a bummer: the old stadium came down, some great players looked really old, deaths in the yankee family. Lastly, it was the first season in as long as I can remember where I did not attend a single game in NYC.
Just feels like a weird, surreal, lost season to me.
Thank you all for letting me join the gang here and there. See you later for "Jets Jocularity."
I'll leave you with this:
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." - Rogers Hornsby
[911] Well, the Captain should not be leading off anymore. That's for sure.
[909] i was just about to type that. for those who are somewhat new 'round these parts, we're here every single day. stick around and we'll get thru the championship-less winter together.
bad ending to the season for the yanks. another winning season here at the banter!
[912] I was still thinking WS, despite all the ups and downs, until the game against Lee got out of hand.
Fucking hell.
I can't believe we didn't even get to see Andy pitch Game 7.
This all just sucks.
[911] Yes we do.
But no one should take seriously anything Flash says about hitting.
[914] Like Mattpat said in [909] - the offseason doesn't exist here.
C'mon back tomorrow, and we'll all be bantering about what the Yanks should do if they don't sign Cliff Lee; what they should do if they DO sign Cliff Lee; etc etc etc.
How the Yankees retool in the offseason is open to debate, but for me personally, I really hope they make it fun to watch again. This is the first team in a while that I found hard to enjoy. Again, most of that was the dour Girardi and his Machiavellian approach, so I guess I am out of luck.
[911] [915] [919] Our boys have him already. He bends time and space.
But that's for another day . . . for now, good night all. weeping, we'll see Andy pitch again, I just know it.
[920] I say NO to Cliff Lee. I want this team to finally get younger...
Game 6 SanFran-Phils anyone?
I think the Teixeira injury was a microcosm of the whole year: running hard out of the box, grinding it out, then slowing down a bit before collapsing at the end in writhing agony at the finish line.
[921] Really? I found many of the mid-00s Yankee teams rather joyless and workmanlike.
[924] Brilliant!
jesus had nothing to do with it, josh. thank your wife. your grandma. and your family...
[923] Yeah there is something unsavory about being teammates with a guy who kicked your ass all over town.
[925] I think the biggest difference is I never got the impression that those teams were treating the season as a prelude to the playoffs. I've always been a big proponent of division titles, and those teams always one one. This year...the Yankees won nothing, and the worst part is that was probably by design.
[923] This team wins 85 games next year without Lee.
[927] Ugh, I can't stand it when athletes go on and on about their religion...(except for Mo of course!)
As Charlie Brown would say, "My stomach hurts."
So I'm signing off. Thanks guys, gals, Alex and the Banter Team. I can't tell you how much joy this site gives me.
I don't want to hear one Yankee talking about how he's "proud of this team."
I hope, for once, that this loss hurts the Yankee players half as much as it hurts the fans here at the Banter.
This should sting--badly. Maybe that's the motivation that's needed to avoid some of the sloppiness that we saw over the last two months.
I hope the players realize that some work needs to be done.
[931] I have no problem with it. Someone sticks a microphone in his face and asks vapid questions, you gotta be ready to get their answers.
[930] The Yankees enter 2011 with one reliable starting pitcher guaranteed in the fold, so you could make that argument.
A side effect of losing this series is it could make Lee more likely to return to Texas. There is no one else available on the market, so the Yankees could be forced to make a trade. If the bait winds up being Montero, Cashman could suffer a reverse of his Johan decision.
[931] Dude. Why are you still watching? OK. That's really it for me. Ja na!
[933] Along those lines, I would have loved to hear Girardi just flat out say he managed poorly in the series.
I hope they do not sign Lee, partly because I believe he will not live up to the kooky krazy kontract that he will inevitably get, and partly because (I admit) that I sometimes get a bit turned off when the Yankees sign the obvious FA crown jewel. I prefer to see a few deft, interesting moves and, ideally, one or two farmhands being integrated into the mix.
Of course, I won't complain if they sign him and go out and win 105 games next year...
[931] Mr. OK Jazz, I never managed to visit the shops you recommended but Thank You nonetheless. Masani, Rivera shi wa me no hoyou.
Kay's apologizing to the listeners for declaring the series over after Game 1.
[935] I think 85 wins for a team without Cliff Lee is very fair. I think when you factor in that Pettitte is very likely retiring, you need to replace *two* spots. And the free agent group is wretched.
[938] Agreed about the crown jewel thing. Also agreed that if we win 105 games...
[938] I just don't see how the 2011 Yankees are any good without Lee.
Oddly, this has been the least "devestated" I've felt at the end of a season, but again that's because the Yankees kind of sucked the life out of me in September, which I regret more. The Yankees basically lost twice: at the end of the regular season and the postseason.
[941] i don't know that andy is 'very likely' retiring. ooh, i sure hope he's not! i want him back. bad...
[944] I'm totally fine right now. I wonder how much winning last year has to do with this.
Andy coming up in the interviews...
[945] I'm just reading the tea leaves here. I'm getting that impression way more than I was when Mussina was on his way out.
Apparently, the Rangers win was written in Scripture, so I feel much better now. So it is written, so it shall be.
This year was weird for a very plausible reason....
We just witnessed the changing of the guard.
Now, our best player is 'the Kid', not the veteran.
A guy who stepped up was a newer Yankee,
BetemitSwisher.We were all pleasantly surprised to Gritty, gutsy Gardner.
Granderson's 2nd half gives us something to look forward to next year.
We have seen 3 of the Core 4 contracts expire, and while they might be back, there is no doubt that their ends are near. Posada will hopefully close his career off next year with a good year.
This is the beginning of the transition. Like one day waking up and realizing your parents have gotten old, we are approaching a new day.
[949] Joshua, to be precise.
[946] You can't underestimate what last year did. It put to bed the bad taste from the 2004 ALCS, the departure of Torre, the Angels jinx, the Arod jinx, etc. Before game 6 of last year's ALCS, I had a pit in my stomach all day. Tonight, I don't think my heart skipped a beat at all. That doesn't mean it's not disappointing, but last year still resonates.
[950] I think its very possible that next year is going to be a total disaster
No, Andy, you pitched just fine your last time out!
Dear man.
[952] i-eye!
not to mention the new stadium, missing the playoffs and todd drew...
"I'm just not sure. The only thing I know right now is I love taking the mound every fifth day. Unfortunately there's a lot of other stuff at this age at this stage in my life that I don't like so much about baseball...family...don't want to make any rash decisions...I wish I knew, I just don't."
[953] All things are possible. That said, we needn't overreact here. Any team with a core of CC, Teix, Cano, A-Rod (even diminished), Granderson, Swish and Mo is going to be pretty competitive.
I'm going to weep my eyes out if he retires now.
I can't bear that right now.
I'm not ready for that.
Please, Andy. One more year.
[955] Yep...all that too. This season just wasn't much fun.
Montero may be up next year.
That could be VERY exciting.
[957] I'm just don't think we have the starting pitching unless we sign Cliff Lee. I think not signing Lee would be compounded by signing one or two bad free agent pitchers. I'm also operating under the assumption that Pettitte is done.
[956] He's gone
[918]. That. :(
[962] Doesn't sound good, does it?
I am also worried about Hughes. His last 5 months weren't very good, and I don't think he really developed much. He still doesn't have an out pitch and didn't develop his second and third ones. If the league adjusts to his sneaky fastball, will he really get much better?
[961] I have a hard time believing that the *only* way a team can have starting pitching is by signing the best starter on the market. But you tend to be more pessimistic even than me.
[956] I do not like the sound of that one bit. I don't want to see him go.
[965] It was his first full season as a starter, after all. He'll improve, even if the improvement is limited to stamina/providing more innings.
[966] If Pettitte retires, what exactly do they have? C.C., Hughes and?
I like Washington. At least there's that.
[969] They'll have holes like most other teams. If he retires, then my guess is they push hard for Lee. But not getting Lee will not necessarily doom the team.
[966] Sabathia and pray for a blizzard(-athia)? The Yankees can fill the spots with warm bodies, but thats about it.
Exhibit A on why baseball postseason ratings mean nothing. With an empty feeling from the Yankees season, and no team that I dislike enough to really root against, I can see myself missing a few games of the World Series...and I love baseball more than anyhting.
Cashman "absolutely" wants Girardi back, according to Bryan Hoch. That hurts more than tonight's loss.
[971] Like I said, i think the combination of not getting Lee and the bad moves they make to compensate for not getting Lee would be too much
Did this Yankee team miss Matsui and Damon? As things turned out, it seems like they definitely did.
[971] I think it might...filling three slots is tough...and if AJ is coming back, then they are really in trouble.
[976] Nope. They missed ARod, Jeter, and to some degree Teix.
[976] Like I said at the time, the summarial dismissal of Matsui and the pissing match with Damon seemed almost spiteful.
That being said, I'm not sure that not signing them was as much of a problem as not replacing them, and even then, I'm not sure that caused the bomb in the ALCS.
[976] well, damon's on record saying he'd "love to play for the yankees next year"...
[974] Yup. "Absolutely. Oh yeah, absolutely."
[978] All the more reason they missed Matsui and Damon. Swisher, Gardner and Thames were so bad, they put all the burden on Arod and Tex. Last year, much of the offense was Arod and Matsui and Damon at times. This year, Cano took over for Arod, but no one filled the shoes of the departed.
[980] I'd love to have him back. Damon is one of the those players who makes it fun.
[977] For arguments sake, does anyone think
Sabathia-Hughes-Garland-Bonderman-Burnett is a competitive rotation?
[976][978] I agree with OYF...not have Damon 2010 and especially Matsui 2010 mattered not at all this season.
Now, did they miss having Damon 2009 and Matsui 2009? Sure. But they also really missed A-Rod 2009, Teix 2009, Jeter 2009...
Matsui 2010 was still pretty damned good.
[984] No...I doubt that would be the Yankees alternative. If Lee slips through, they likely dangle blue chips for an established pitcher. Maybe a Matt Cain trade winds up making sense, or something along those lines. Carlos Zambrano for AJ Burnett would sure be nice.
Carlos Zambrano feels like a Latino AJ Burnett
Mattpat & others..I agree. Last year was so awesome-O that am not too down this year..and next season Granderson, Cano & Teix will carry the team offensively. The pitching...
[939] Iyasu, no problem. Mo 本当に野球神様。。
But when they smoked the Twinkies, you had to be thinking World Series. I was.
Eh, before the PS, I picked Rays over Yankees in 6.
Watching the Rangers beat the Rays, I said here and over on BBTF that I had a bad, baaaaad feeling about this matchup.
Watching these 6 games, I still won't say the better team (as in over 162, or a different 7 games) won, but the team that deserved to win, won.
Lousy starting pitching + mediocre bullpen work + terrible situational hitting = The Offseason.
[984] Binderman is finished. But AJ's track record suggests that he should be better than this year, albeit frustrating and flaky and not particularly *good.*
But yes, I think that a rotation with Sabathia, Hughes, Burnett, Garland could be competitive. Great? no, not likely. Competitive? Sure.
[957] My dear MP, if we weren't overreacting, it wouldn't be BronxBanter ...
[992] Oh sure, if you want to go and put things into context...
[988] Something different though. Also, if he doesn't pitch well in 2011 and 2012, his 2013 option doesn't vest. Zambrano really bounced back after his suspension, and is a better pitcher. Maybe the change of scenery helps both.
[991] AJ is reaching the age where declines tend to be more permanent.
[994] An interest idea, actually. The Cubs have to be looking to dump Zambrano, so they might be willing to deal for AJ.
There's no game tomorrow.
[991] I think this is the beginning of the end for Burnett. He might be *better* next year, but I think he'll be bad, injured, or both.
And Jon Garland in the AL East has catastrophe written all over it
[996] Maybe, although, Zambrano in the AL East, in New York doesn't exactly exactly fill me with much confidence ...
New thread up...do I get to be #1000?