For those seeing local commericals: Who wants to throw a bottle at the TV every time the "Jeter has an edge" Ford spot runs? It's been what...three years?
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5) Coudn't hit out of a wet paper bag
6) Coudn't hit out of a wet paper bag
7) Coudn't hit out of a wet paper bag
8) Coudn't hit out of a wet paper bag
9) Coudn't hit out of a wet paper bag
A game is a game, and it's fun to come back in the ninth and win, BUT: The hitting on this team must get better. Arod, Jeter, Swisher, Tex, Cano, Posada. That's a lot milliions scuffling.
120) why even mention who didn't have a good game? I understand Jeter isn't playing great. That he's old. Didn't they win five championships with him too? Can't you cut him a break?
[128] Ya wanna talk about last decade, or THIS decade?
Jeter is hurting the team. Plain and simple.
My guess is his DHing with Nunez at SS, is Girardi doing a test-Pipp.
I like Jeter, but I love the Yankees and the Yankees Winning, more.
Girardi needs to put his best team, and his best lineup, on the field.
129) Okay, just so long as you give the old man credit any time he does something well.
You aren't very forgiving. I can appreciate you wanting the Yanks to field the best team but it's more complicated than that. Wish it wasn't so but it is. Jeter isn't going anywhere, at least not this year. Get used to it. Though of course that doesn't mean you have to like it.
So I found myself thinking about this during the game: With CC undeniably being the ace of the staff since '09, and Granderson having a career year so far...when, if ever, have the Yankees had two African-American superstars of this caliber on their roster at the same time?
My guess would be Winfield and Rickey in '85-'86, but even then Winfield was overshadowed by Mattingly on his own team and with Doc and Darryl doing their thing in Queens no one even really cared...
[131] I agree, in that ARod drives this team. He is so far posting a sub-par .875ish OPS. Poor for ARod, but still decent for his position. The problem is Jeter is not earning his playing time. He is on the edge of the bottom 1/3rd offensively, so add in his 'statuesque' defense, and things look pretty bad.
I feel the FO bowed to Jeter with that insane contract.
Does this mean we HAVE to play him, regardless of his contributions (or lack thereof)?
[133] It's my opinion that the Yanks painted themselves into a corner with the Jeter negotiations, choosing to take a hardline stance leading up to his pending free agency. Had they perhaps negotiated behind the scenes a year or two before and behind the scenes, they might have agreed on easing him out gracefully. Instead, you have the proverbial Mexican standoff; I don't have much sympathy for the front office in that regard, no matter how poorly Jeter does. It could have been headed off out of the public eye.
[138] I don't think so Chyll. They offered him the Moon for 3 years, and Jeter begged for a 4th. He ain't thinking about 'going out'. I guess the FO is lucky he had a down year, as $51m could have been $60m.
I love that the Yankees can afford to keep players. I love seeing the same family year after year. That said, I kinda admire that Theo can cut loose with a player if he thinks it's better for his team.
I want both Jeter and Posada to be given every shot. Maybe we can carry them if they are not their best. But there has to be a limit. The AL East is a 3 horse race, and we will have a fight to get a PS spot. 1 or 2 games can very well make the difference.
And he was killing us in 2010, even with a decent .340 OPS.
Are we sure we can carry his statuesque defense and a sub .310 OBP?
Can we carry Jeter? Can we carry Posada?
If ARod, Cano and Swisher right themselves.... maybe we can carry both. If (whoever is) our DH starts posting an .800 OPS, we can probably carry Jeter.
But if ARod is a sub .900 OPS guys now,
and Hacktastic Robbie has possessed Cano's body,
and Swisher is destined for a .750 OPS or worse,
and Phil ain't any help...
then NO! We can't! Have you been watching the last 3 weeks?
Not unless you are glad to have Jeter and Posada on a 3rd place team.
We can't carry both, and we might not carry Jeter in his current state. We will need their spots's production.
I have been saying this since mid-2010, and that is...
If Jeter gets a big/long contract, and he continues to suck, fans will TEAR HIM APART! It will badly hurt his legacy. It's happening already.
Anybody remember Bernie? Bernie Williams? Black dude... CFer.... great guy and a better player at his position then Jeter? Remember, even at $1m/1 Yr, most felt we couldn't give him a bench spot? Was Bernie REALLY less of a Yankee then Jeter/Posada???
If we continue to NOT put the best team, and lineup, on the field,
and we miss the PS,
October will be very bleak at The Banter. Very, very bleak.
And I think people will reflect on how we stroked Jeter's $200m ego at the cost of October baseball.
Eduardo Nunez is the new Francisco Cervelli
Nice, another O'Neill game.
This is the way to face Jose: bases empty.
Unfortunately, that was what currently passes for Jeter-ian.
Meh.
Wow. That was 3 straight pathetic swings from Alex.
Was Rivera running?
Phew!
Whoo-hoo. The Muscle!
Robinson not the same since the beaning.
If a pitcher faced the Yankees and threw 100 percent change ups, do you think the Yankees would score two runs?
[10] What do you think?
I've come to dread seeing a man on second base
[10] Would they get two hits?
Compact score truck so far tonight. Is CC up to the task?
[14] It's a damn Score Prius. Or a Score Yugo.
Jesus
start the circus music
Cano is in a fog.
Cano must be in love. What the FUCK!
Trouble
This will not end well.
Ok, it did. But still damage done.
It ends here. Score truck is no longer an option>
What the hell is wromg with this team? The only guys playing weill are Martin, Grandy and Gritner.
Am I allowed to start becoming cross with CC?
I mean, wtf?
Tonight is the first warm muggy night in NY. I thought the Yanks bats would wake up.
[17] et. al., What'd Robbie do?
[27] He deflected a hot shot up the middle (would have been a good play), and dropped an easy throw at first covering for a bunt.
[28] Oy.
For those seeing local commericals: Who wants to throw a bottle at the TV every time the "Jeter has an edge" Ford spot runs? It's been what...three years?
And his edge needs sharpening.
Ugh.
Nice, Curtis.
Just chill the fuck out, Teix...let the ball travel to you...
Aggggggrrrhhh!
Bloody Hell.
Just numbing. Arguable the best player right now is picked off first.
I will need to counteract this shortly. Another week night when the Yankees are driving me to drink. My team enablers.
These guys are shitty.
I hate this game.
I hate this team.
God.
"Jeter has
an edgea $51m contract"Fixed
[38] And the stadium feels like a mausoleum.
Someone please explain to me how A-Rod can come up and swing at the first pitch right after the pitcher walks the lead-off batter on, what, 5 pitches?
It's incomprehensible. What is he thinking?
Holy fuck, this dude's hitting .345???
Damn, I didn't realize that.
[41] *shrugging* He's looking for a first pitch bp fastball that he can hit out?
I don't know. It's maddening, though.
[43] Yeah, it must be that, because that's the ONLY logical reason he would do that. Grrrrrrrrrr.
Swisher fucking sucks.
Goddamn, they all fucking suck.
I'm angry.
Seems like they are doing just enough to beat bad teams (Baltimore, Mets) and they can't compete against good teams.
Was anyone here around in 1965?
That was a pea.
Damn, Nunez stung that baseball.
Nice hit.
Wow... a rally. Who's up?
[47] I'm afraid not...my coming into the world was still eight years off.
At bat...
#2....
Charlie Brown,
#2.
[52] Good one.
[52] I think OYF secretly has a thing for Minka Kelly, hence the lack of Jeter-love :(
[47] Ken Boyer made me cry in '64, so yes I remember '65
[47]Two years old. Unofficial S.F. Giants fan.
Gee... what a surprise.
no words
Exactly. Goddamnmotherfuckingpissshitbollcksyassbitch.
Fuck Me!
No one could have foreseen...
We need to put up a screen or something so the batter cant see a runner on second base.
[61] *cracking up* Very nice.
[54] It's not easy to love a double-play machine.
Does anyone actually enjoy pitch by pitch?
Damn, that Mark Teixeira can field.
[65] Sometimes. I wish they'd slow down the pace some but yes, it can be instructive.
God, it's painful to watch him swing like that.
Jesus.
This is agonizing.
I mean, they don't even hit the ball hard.
ARod has gotten a bunch of hits last week, but really hasn't hit the ball hard, and has looked bad in many ABs.
Stop IT!!!!!
Jesus, THANK you, Robbie.
Fuck, thank you.
2 good ropes tonight. Horrible fucking defense from Robbie but at least he hit with that thing on third.
We should have the lineup go
1) Gritner
2) Grandy
3) Cano
4) Martin
Then maybe we could string some hits together.
A hit, a hit!!!!!!
Fucking Swisher.
Poor Nick. He's REALLY pressing.
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5) Coudn't hit out of a wet paper bag
6) Coudn't hit out of a wet paper bag
7) Coudn't hit out of a wet paper bag
8) Coudn't hit out of a wet paper bag
9) Coudn't hit out of a wet paper bag
Wow. CG for CC? Joey must really want to give him a shot at the Win.
Really.... it's time to bat Griter lead-off and Jeter 9th.
[75] Good idea. But I still would put A-Rod clean up and Martin 5th. A-Rod can't suck this bad for too much longer.
Well, we'll see a complete game
CC "guts it out" again. He deserves a win tonight. Can the team eek out two?
I hate typing this, but the memories of Jeter as a catalyst, play maker, a top player in baseball, etc. are fading.
C'mon Lil' G!
Actually, batting Jeter 6th or 7th would not be too insulting. Godzilla used to bat 6th, 7th, 8th.
Jesus, let Nunez hit!
Well hot damn.
I swear... when Kay said
"POSADA GOING FOR TWO"....
by sphincter spasmed.
This is a pinch stand there I can accept.
He should have been out at 2nd. The Gods are with us, perhaps?
Jesus Derek...
TAKE ONE FOR THE TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!
Take one for the team Derek!
Fuck.
Damnit to hell
Come on, Curtis...we need to start winning winnable baseball games...
If Jeter was left handed, he'd be hitting 3:30 this year
THAT WAS HIGH!!!!!!!!
Fucking Superman!
WOOHOO!
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!
YAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, this is the way we want it.
Yay! Granderson hits it hard and through! 4 for 5.
The Grandy Man CAN!
Curtis!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z66wVo7uNw
A Fatty there...
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!
HOORAY!
YAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE WON, WE WONNNNNNNNNN!!!
And the Yankees win! Lucky is good too!
CC gets the win!
Pie should be for Grandy... not Teix.
TIME.
FOR.
PIE!!!
WOOT! Not sure if this means more drinking or less drinking, but it's DIFFERENT drinking!
[107] I'm ready for a fatty! No booze tonight.
Best win of the year
Wait, whadd'd I miss?
Nah, I caught most of it just away from the computer.
FUCK YEAH!
Posada looks pretty damn goofy hopping around out there. lol...
Hooray for small ball!! :)
And the Yanks Win despite Jeter!
I love pie
[120] And A-Rod
[112] I was thinking that, too. He almost single-handed won the game.
Timed that one perfectly.
Took a nap about the 3rd inning, woke up for the bottom of the 8th, just in time for the good stuff to start.
Amusing to go back and read the whole game thread, with the foreknowledge of pie in mind ...
Man, what a nice win.
[123] That should be "single-handedly"
Of course, CC stopping the bleeding was studly.
A game is a game, and it's fun to come back in the ninth and win, BUT: The hitting on this team must get better. Arod, Jeter, Swisher, Tex, Cano, Posada. That's a lot milliions scuffling.
120) why even mention who didn't have a good game? I understand Jeter isn't playing great. That he's old. Didn't they win five championships with him too? Can't you cut him a break?
[128] Ya wanna talk about last decade, or THIS decade?
Jeter is hurting the team. Plain and simple.
My guess is his DHing with Nunez at SS, is Girardi doing a test-Pipp.
I like Jeter, but I love the Yankees and the Yankees Winning, more.
Girardi needs to put his best team, and his best lineup, on the field.
129) Okay, just so long as you give the old man credit any time he does something well.
You aren't very forgiving. I can appreciate you wanting the Yanks to field the best team but it's more complicated than that. Wish it wasn't so but it is. Jeter isn't going anywhere, at least not this year. Get used to it. Though of course that doesn't mean you have to like it.
I'm more worried about A-Rod. He seems to be turning into a head case again, doing strange things in key situations with RISP.
that was incredibly enjoyable tonight.
So I found myself thinking about this during the game: With CC undeniably being the ace of the staff since '09, and Granderson having a career year so far...when, if ever, have the Yankees had two African-American superstars of this caliber on their roster at the same time?
My guess would be Winfield and Rickey in '85-'86, but even then Winfield was overshadowed by Mattingly on his own team and with Doc and Darryl doing their thing in Queens no one even really cared...
[131] I agree, in that ARod drives this team. He is so far posting a sub-par .875ish OPS. Poor for ARod, but still decent for his position. The problem is Jeter is not earning his playing time. He is on the edge of the bottom 1/3rd offensively, so add in his 'statuesque' defense, and things look pretty bad.
I feel the FO bowed to Jeter with that insane contract.
Does this mean we HAVE to play him, regardless of his contributions (or lack thereof)?
[132] like >;)
[133] They can win with Jeter batting .250-260, but he shouldn't be getting more at-bats than anyone else on the team.
[132] Al Downing & Elston Howard?
[133] It's my opinion that the Yanks painted themselves into a corner with the Jeter negotiations, choosing to take a hardline stance leading up to his pending free agency. Had they perhaps negotiated behind the scenes a year or two before and behind the scenes, they might have agreed on easing him out gracefully. Instead, you have the proverbial Mexican standoff; I don't have much sympathy for the front office in that regard, no matter how poorly Jeter does. It could have been headed off out of the public eye.
[138] I don't think so Chyll. They offered him the Moon for 3 years, and Jeter begged for a 4th. He ain't thinking about 'going out'. I guess the FO is lucky he had a down year, as $51m could have been $60m.
I love that the Yankees can afford to keep players. I love seeing the same family year after year. That said, I kinda admire that Theo can cut loose with a player if he thinks it's better for his team.
I want both Jeter and Posada to be given every shot. Maybe we can carry them if they are not their best. But there has to be a limit. The AL East is a 3 horse race, and we will have a fight to get a PS spot. 1 or 2 games can very well make the difference.
In the PS, 1 or 2 ABs can make the difference.
Boatzilla says: "They can win with Jeter batting .250-260"
Jeter 2011: .254 .303 .316 .619
Jeter 2010: .270 .340 .370 .710
And he was killing us in 2010, even with a decent .340 OPS.
Are we sure we can carry his statuesque defense and a sub .310 OBP?
Can we carry Jeter? Can we carry Posada?
If ARod, Cano and Swisher right themselves.... maybe we can carry both. If (whoever is) our DH starts posting an .800 OPS, we can probably carry Jeter.
But if ARod is a sub .900 OPS guys now,
and Hacktastic Robbie has possessed Cano's body,
and Swisher is destined for a .750 OPS or worse,
and Phil ain't any help...
then NO! We can't! Have you been watching the last 3 weeks?
Not unless you are glad to have Jeter and Posada on a 3rd place team.
We can't carry both, and we might not carry Jeter in his current state. We will need their spots's production.
I have been saying this since mid-2010, and that is...
If Jeter gets a big/long contract, and he continues to suck, fans will TEAR HIM APART! It will badly hurt his legacy. It's happening already.
Anybody remember Bernie? Bernie Williams? Black dude... CFer.... great guy and a better player at his position then Jeter? Remember, even at $1m/1 Yr, most felt we couldn't give him a bench spot? Was Bernie REALLY less of a Yankee then Jeter/Posada???
If we continue to NOT put the best team, and lineup, on the field,
and we miss the PS,
October will be very bleak at The Banter. Very, very bleak.
And I think people will reflect on how we stroked Jeter's $200m ego at the cost of October baseball.