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Don’t Get Me Started

The kid Phelps gets the start tonight in Kansas City. First of four against the Royals. Chad Jennings has the lowdown.

Derek Jeter DH
Curtis Granderson CF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Andruw Jones RF
Eduardo Nunez SS
Russell Martin C
Jayson Nix LF

Never mind the butterflies, son: Let’s Go Yank-ees!

[Photo Credit: Marvin E. Newman]

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1 Ara Just Fair   ~  May 3, 2012 6:25 pm

WHAT THE FUCK. They just showed Mo being lifted up onto a cart after he apparently banged into the outfield wall during batting practice. He had 2 guys on either side of him and he holding him above the ground. Oh, Jesus.

2 rbj   ~  May 3, 2012 6:28 pm

[1] Auuuuugggggghhhhhhh! *runs around in panic*

Fuckity fuck fuck fucking fuckity fuck.

(cursing very appropriate here.)

3 rbj   ~  May 3, 2012 6:30 pm

MLBN

Mo was shagging flies, as per usual, slipped/fell on the warning track, injured his knee.

4 Ara Just Fair   ~  May 3, 2012 6:30 pm

Sweeney Murti saying he wasn't putting any weight on his knee. Knee may have have buckled on the warning track. Not banging into outfield wall. Oi!

5 Ara Just Fair   ~  May 3, 2012 6:37 pm

Ugh. Video just about made me sick to my stomach.

6 rbj   ~  May 3, 2012 6:48 pm

[5] Yup. I hope it's simply a sprain, he goes on DL for 15-20 days. Time for the Alabama Hammah to step up.

7 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 3, 2012 6:54 pm

Oh. fuck ME!

Fucking hell, really?

His knee?

Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck.

8 Alex Belth   ~  May 3, 2012 6:54 pm

Man oh man.

9 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  May 3, 2012 6:56 pm

Oh No...that cannot have not happened.

10 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 3, 2012 7:02 pm

Ohhh, fuck!

Just saw the clip, goddamn!

Owwwww!

Fuck fuck fuck.

11 OldYanksFan   ~  May 3, 2012 7:03 pm

"Rivera ran into the center field wall while attempting to make a leaping catch of a ball that was hit over the fence. Rivera fell to the warning track, his face contorted in obvious pain, rubbing his right knee with his hand."

Is that what happened?

12 OldYanksFan   ~  May 3, 2012 7:03 pm

[10] Link Please

13 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 3, 2012 7:09 pm

Why is Teix hitting third now?

14 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 3, 2012 7:09 pm

[12] Just saw it on YES.

15 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 3, 2012 7:11 pm

He didn't run into the wall, he sort of landed wrong as he leapt to catch a flyball, stumbled awkwardly to the ground, writhing in pain. He may have rolled up against the wall at the end of the fall, but the injury was about his landing.

16 cult of basebaal   ~  May 3, 2012 7:15 pm

::facepalm::

DOH!

Is it too early to start getting one of "those" feelings about this year?

17 RIYank   ~  May 3, 2012 7:16 pm

[13] He and A-Rod switch off. You hadn't noticed?

18 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 3, 2012 7:20 pm

[17] I thought he and Rob switch off?
I thought Teix was the number five guy all year.

19 OldYanksFan   ~  May 3, 2012 7:21 pm

[13] LH Pitcher and a slumping Cano.

20 RIYank   ~  May 3, 2012 7:22 pm

[18] Hm, maybe when Swish bats second. But Joe doesn't like putting Rob after Curtis, two lefties in a row.

21 rbj   ~  May 3, 2012 7:22 pm

Oh Robbie.

22 RIYank   ~  May 3, 2012 7:24 pm

Okay, here we go, rook!

Your mission, should you choose to accept it...

23 Alex Belth   ~  May 3, 2012 7:26 pm

15) I thought the injury happened when he planted his leg before the leap. Could be wrong though. Either way, that was scary.

24 RIYank   ~  May 3, 2012 7:27 pm

Well done, Eduardo. Perfect positioning.

25 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 3, 2012 7:27 pm

Nun-fucking-ez.

26 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 3, 2012 7:27 pm

[23] Yes, that sounds more accurate.

27 OldYanksFan   ~  May 3, 2012 7:30 pm

Over/Under on that being the LAST fly ball Riveria will ever shag....

28 RIYank   ~  May 3, 2012 7:31 pm

[27] Uh. Over/under?
Over/under is a number. So I say, seven. Or forty-two.

29 RIYank   ~  May 3, 2012 7:31 pm

Kid seems just a tad nervous...

30 RIYank   ~  May 3, 2012 7:33 pm

Holy cow. Nice slider!

31 rbj   ~  May 3, 2012 7:33 pm

[27] Zero, at least while he's still playing.
Do not break glass unless in case of a save.

32 RIYank   ~  May 3, 2012 7:34 pm

HEY, I COULD USE SOME HELP HERE.

Cheez.

33 RIYank   ~  May 3, 2012 7:34 pm

Oh, whew, rbj is here. I was feeling like I was alone out on the mound.

34 RIYank   ~  May 3, 2012 7:35 pm

Oh, and [31] tell Amare :-(.

35 bp1   ~  May 3, 2012 7:38 pm

[33] Most of us are still in a state of shock, slack jawed, staring blankly into space, a little drool running down the corner of our mouth. Others are suffering a fit of hysterical blindness, sorta like when Hank Hill caught his mother and her boyfriend on the kitchen table.

Sigh.

Can we get a YES crew over to the MRI tube? Live coverage would be very helpful. This is no ordinary knee.

36 rbj   ~  May 3, 2012 7:38 pm

Oh, and got my copy of Damn Yankees yesterday. Going to save it for lake week in August, sitting out on the porch in the evening, drinking a beer and listening to the Mud Hens via my TouchPad.

37 rbj   ~  May 3, 2012 7:40 pm

[33] No problem, and offensively offense woes continue.

38 Ara Just Fair   ~  May 3, 2012 7:43 pm

[15] It looked to me like he kind of face planted into the wall to add insult to injury after twisting the knee. sigh.....

39 Shaun P.   ~  May 3, 2012 7:44 pm

[33] Can't speak for everyone else, but I've been busy praying for Mo. That video was horrible.

On a less prayerful note, holy crap does Duffy throw hard! 99 from a lefty?! Wow.

40 Ara Just Fair   ~  May 3, 2012 7:45 pm

Every AAA Yankee game offers their tickets online except this Sunday's game. It was announced earlier that Pettitte will be starting at Frontier Field that day. I wonder if they're going to jack up the prices. I am going to give it a shot tomorrow at noon.

41 RIYank   ~  May 3, 2012 7:46 pm

Yeah.
Well, he wasn't going to shut them out.

42 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  May 3, 2012 7:47 pm

[35] That about sums up my state too. Damn...
[39] Lightning in that arm. Scary.

43 RIYank   ~  May 3, 2012 7:50 pm

Hm, important for Phelps to get ahead in counts, I guess.

44 rbj   ~  May 3, 2012 7:54 pm

Making it out of the second is already better than Freddy.

45 rbj   ~  May 3, 2012 7:56 pm

Live on the outside corner, David.

46 Alex Belth   ~  May 3, 2012 7:57 pm

Thank goodness MIchael Kay isn't calling the game, he'd be hyperventilating about Rivera and making our anxiety even more acute.

47 Alex Belth   ~  May 3, 2012 7:57 pm

Jeter! 500 career double. Wow.

48 RIYank   ~  May 3, 2012 7:57 pm

Jetes still has it.
If only someone else on the team could catch some of it!

49 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  May 3, 2012 7:58 pm

[46] Man, was just thinking that. Cone and Singleton an oasis of calm.
Loved hearing about Cone facing him and Eddie Murray all those years back.

50 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 3, 2012 8:00 pm

Man, Granderson's swinging when the ball's in the glove.

OVerpowered.

51 Ara Just Fair   ~  May 3, 2012 8:00 pm

Curtis had no chance.

52 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  May 3, 2012 8:00 pm

[46][49] Having said that, I'm freaking out.

53 Shaun P.   ~  May 3, 2012 8:01 pm

[46] Amen and then some. Kay would make this unbearable.

[48] Against lefties at least. He's hitting what, .600 so far against lefty pitchers this year? I hope the Yanks keep facing lots of lefties!

54 weeping for brunnhilde   ~  May 3, 2012 8:02 pm

Good work, Teix.

55 Alex Belth   ~  May 3, 2012 8:02 pm

Nicely done, Mark.

56 Shaun P.   ~  May 3, 2012 8:02 pm

[52] [53] More unbearable, I should have said.

Nice! Doubles doubles. Now that its May, maybe Tex will start heating up.

57 RIYank   ~  May 3, 2012 8:02 pm

Hey, Teix!

58 rbj   ~  May 3, 2012 8:02 pm

Finally, Teix.

59 Alex Belth   ~  May 3, 2012 8:03 pm

Dave Eiland!!

60 RIYank   ~  May 3, 2012 8:04 pm

[56] Unbearabler.

61 Alex Belth   ~  May 3, 2012 8:05 pm

Alex missed his pitch, 2-0. Good job not swinging at crap and drawing the walk.

62 Alex Belth   ~  May 3, 2012 8:06 pm

1-0, beat with heat right down the cock. DAG. Good swing too.

63 Alex Belth   ~  May 3, 2012 8:06 pm

shite.

64 rbj   ~  May 3, 2012 8:06 pm

[59] I still wonder what he did to get fired, but probably best we don't know.

65 Shaun P.   ~  May 3, 2012 8:08 pm

[59] You know, Hughes did have his two best seasons when Eiland was the pitching coach . . . just sayin' . . .

[60] I like it. The word, not the situation to which it might apply.

66 bp1   ~  May 3, 2012 8:08 pm

[64] Suggested that Mo shag more fly balls. "Good for the legs".

67 RIYank   ~  May 3, 2012 8:09 pm

[66] Too soon.

68 Ara Just Fair   ~  May 3, 2012 8:11 pm

Billy Doubles. I like that.

69 rbj   ~  May 3, 2012 8:14 pm

Wheel play on?

70 Alex Belth   ~  May 3, 2012 8:14 pm

64) I heard rumors about it involving something with wives and affairs and a bunch of unpleasantness.

71 Alex Belth   ~  May 3, 2012 8:16 pm

C'mon, need a double play.

72 RIYank   ~  May 3, 2012 8:16 pm

Glug.

73 mhoward120   ~  May 3, 2012 8:18 pm

Is it time to start praying that Clemens gets off so that he can rejoin Pettitte in the rotation?

74 Alex Belth   ~  May 3, 2012 8:19 pm
75 kenboyer made me cry   ~  May 3, 2012 8:19 pm

Hello (or HEJ HEJ, thanks Eric).
This is and has been a brutal week for the Yankees and fans.

I don't want to be a downer, singing a lament for Mo.

A win tonight would be a tonic. Phelps looks good, and you can't really blame the seeing eye grounders. Let's see if he toughens and gets out of this.

76 rbj   ~  May 3, 2012 8:19 pm

[70] Yeah, heard that rumor too, which is why I don't want to know. John Edwards is ugly enough.

77 Alex Belth   ~  May 3, 2012 8:21 pm

Phelps got away with one there to Frenchie.

78 rbj   ~  May 3, 2012 8:21 pm

Nice k David.

79 RIYank   ~  May 3, 2012 8:21 pm

I love Jeff Francouer. I mean, on other teams.

80 kenboyer made me cry   ~  May 3, 2012 8:22 pm

[70] No man is an Eiland, no man stands alone.
Ya can't always fight what you feel. Ask Cashman.

81 Ara Just Fair   ~  May 3, 2012 8:22 pm

How's Cone's arm nowadays?

82 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  May 3, 2012 8:23 pm

I'm out to a Russian music festival today. Hope there's a lot of vodka. Go Go Yankees. (泣く...)

83 Shaun P.   ~  May 3, 2012 8:24 pm

[76] Ditto, though its been two years now, finding out can't be that bad.

Is Clay Rapada Girardi's personal security blanky? Ugh.

You know what keep Yankees starters from throwing so many pitches so early in the game, Coney? Having corner outfielders and an Eduardo Nune4567 who could actually field the ball.

84 Shaun P.   ~  May 3, 2012 8:26 pm

Quiz answer . . . Hmm . . . my first thought was good old Bye Bye Balboni, but I'm pretty sure he never hit 30 with the Yanks. Then I realized who it was, but I think we should let Raging chime in with the answer. ;)

85 Simone   ~  May 3, 2012 8:27 pm

OMG! I just saw the video on YES. Mariano! ! I am trying not to freak out, but WTH?!

86 Shaun P.   ~  May 3, 2012 8:29 pm

[85] There should be a giant disclaimer on it. I don't think I can watch it again.

87 rbj   ~  May 3, 2012 8:31 pm

[83] I'm just thinking that if some families have reconciled, it doesn't need to now be made public.
Geez, I think I'm more worried about our offense than Mo. If you only score one run a night, there are going to be few save opportunities.

88 rbj   ~  May 3, 2012 8:33 pm

Sigh.

89 Shaun P.   ~  May 3, 2012 8:35 pm

[87] Excellent point; I hadn't considered that.

I think the offense will be fine, particularly once Gardner and Swisher are back and Nune4567 is out of the lineup on a regular basis. A-Rod, Tex, and Cano can't all hit this badly all season.

90 rbj   ~  May 3, 2012 8:44 pm

You're calling Derek out on that pitch?

91 rbj   ~  May 3, 2012 8:52 pm

[89] I admit my vouyerism, just try and keep it in check.
4 runs in four games? Don Mattingly to the white courtesy phone please.

92 Alex Belth   ~  May 3, 2012 8:55 pm

Duffy has got really tough stuff. But the Yanks haven't scored for shit in the last four games including tonight. Need to break out some fuggin runs, man.

93 rbj   ~  May 3, 2012 8:55 pm

Yes, let's mix and match in early May against the Royals, rather than have a real backup outfielder.

94 kenboyer made me cry   ~  May 3, 2012 8:59 pm

[93] Or a real backup SS.

95 Ara Just Fair   ~  May 3, 2012 8:59 pm

Fucking circus. Clap-clap-clap-clap-clap.

96 rbj   ~  May 3, 2012 9:02 pm

[94] Let's not get ridiculous and expect a competent bench.
Have to get up early, goodnight all.

97 mhoward120   ~  May 3, 2012 9:04 pm

Do I smell 1965?

98 OldYanksFan   ~  May 3, 2012 9:09 pm

[97] It could happen...

99 Boatzilla   ~  May 3, 2012 9:31 pm

So what's the story with Eiland? He was messing with a player's wife? Inquiring minds want to know.

100 Boatzilla   ~  May 3, 2012 9:35 pm

[97] What does 1965 signify? End of the dynasty?

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101 OldYanksFan   ~  May 3, 2012 9:36 pm

[99] He buggered the Bat Boyy in the back of Bellview Blvd.

102 Boatzilla   ~  May 3, 2012 9:39 pm

[101] Was it consensual?

103 OldYanksFan   ~  May 3, 2012 9:40 pm

[100] In 1964, with Mantle, Maris, Stottlemyre, Elston Howard, Whitey Ford, Bouton, Al Downing, Tom Tresh, Clete Boyer, Tony Kubek, Joe Pepitone and Bobby Richardson, they just lost in the WS.

In 1965, with the same roster, they finished 6th out of 10th.

In 1966, they finished 10th.

104 Boatzilla   ~  May 3, 2012 9:45 pm

OK. I knew about '64. There's a good book about it by David Hardtospell.

So the point is these Yankees smell like those Yankees?

105 kenboyer made me cry   ~  May 3, 2012 9:47 pm

[103] And Ken Boyer hit the grand slam in game 6 in the '64 WS that snatched victory from the Yankees. He made me cry. Bob Gibson pitched and won in game 7. Yogi Berra was fired as manager after that loss.

It was a character building experience to be a Yankee fan from age 7 when they were in the wilderness for so many years.

106 Boatzilla   ~  May 3, 2012 9:48 pm

What in the hell was that!!!

107 Boatzilla   ~  May 3, 2012 9:49 pm

[105] I started at 7, too. But it was 1970 and still in the wilderness, of course.

108 OldYanksFan   ~  May 3, 2012 9:55 pm

[104] Well it might be the ultimate example of an entire elite team all getting old at once. Our boys aren't that old, and better conditioning (I believe) has older players now experiencing a more gracious decline.

But it was scary to go from literally GREAT to under .500 in the blink of an eye.

109 OldYanksFan   ~  May 3, 2012 9:57 pm

The film of Mo is now headlining the ESPN website.

110 Alex Belth   ~  May 3, 2012 10:00 pm

Nunez. Sigh. That was a great throw though.

111 Alex Belth   ~  May 3, 2012 10:02 pm

97) The 1965 analogy has been used every single year the Banter has been around, since 03 and counting. First appearance this year.

112 mhoward120   ~  May 3, 2012 10:06 pm

At least its good (?) to know that Soriano still blows.

113 Ara Just Fair   ~  May 3, 2012 10:09 pm

That was a bullet of a throw from Martin.

114 Alex Belth   ~  May 3, 2012 10:10 pm

Ah, Frenchie.

115 OldYanksFan   ~  May 3, 2012 10:11 pm

Wow... that was an AMAZINGLY quick throw by Martin!

116 OldYanksFan   ~  May 3, 2012 10:13 pm

MLBTV had a replay on that, which showed Martin standing up toward 3rd before he caught the pitch, and in one motion, catching it and throwing a perfect strike to ARod. Really, a thing of beauty.

117 Ara Just Fair   ~  May 3, 2012 10:17 pm

Captain!

118 OldYanksFan   ~  May 3, 2012 10:18 pm

Damn! Jeter ON FIRE!

119 OldYanksFan   ~  May 3, 2012 10:20 pm

Jeter's current line: .404 .441 .587 1.028. DAMN!

120 Boatzilla   ~  May 3, 2012 10:21 pm

Let's get this done, boys!

121 Alex Belth   ~  May 3, 2012 10:22 pm

C'mon Tex.

122 Ara Just Fair   ~  May 3, 2012 10:22 pm

Good job, Teix. You the man!

123 OldYanksFan   ~  May 3, 2012 10:23 pm

FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!

124 Alex Belth   ~  May 3, 2012 10:23 pm

Nice scoop by Hosmer. Shit.

125 Boatzilla   ~  May 3, 2012 10:24 pm

WTF Tex!

126 Alex Belth   ~  May 3, 2012 10:24 pm

Wow, terrible call.

127 Boatzilla   ~  May 3, 2012 10:24 pm

This will end badly.

128 Alex Belth   ~  May 3, 2012 10:25 pm

100 mph. But here comes a breaking ball maybe?

129 OldYanksFan   ~  May 3, 2012 10:25 pm

Jeter was called on on strikes when not one pitch was over the plate.

130 Alex Belth   ~  May 3, 2012 10:25 pm

Wow, good cut. Figure he's still going with something soft to get him out.

131 Ara Just Fair   ~  May 3, 2012 10:26 pm

If he can throw something off speed for a strike Alex is toast.

132 Alex Belth   ~  May 3, 2012 10:26 pm

Good job spoiling the slider.

133 Alex Belth   ~  May 3, 2012 10:27 pm

Way to lay off that shit.

134 Ara Just Fair   ~  May 3, 2012 10:28 pm

Good eye. Little bingo.

135 Alex Belth   ~  May 3, 2012 10:28 pm

Wow, valiant AB by Alex.

136 Ara Just Fair   ~  May 3, 2012 10:29 pm

Goddamn Fucking Horseshit!

137 Alex Belth   ~  May 3, 2012 10:30 pm

Good at bat. Great play . Tip your cap.

138 OldYanksFan   ~  May 3, 2012 10:31 pm

I am going to be sick.

139 Alex Belth   ~  May 3, 2012 10:32 pm

After the last two games against the O's, the injury to Mariano, this is a bummer of a loss. I figured they were going to come back and win it all along. Damn.

140 Boatzilla   ~  May 3, 2012 10:32 pm

A-Rod snuck a peak a 3rd about halfway down the line. Might have been the difference.

141 OldYanksFan   ~  May 3, 2012 10:34 pm

[140] No... it wasn't that close at 1st.

142 Boatzilla   ~  May 3, 2012 10:36 pm

[140] Sorry, "peek."

143 OldYanksFan   ~  May 3, 2012 10:38 pm

Brutal night. I need a puppy to kick...

144 Boatzilla   ~  May 3, 2012 10:38 pm

Anyway, going back a batter, Tex has to put the ball in the air in that situation. Dude is not getting it done.

145 OldYanksFan   ~  May 3, 2012 10:39 pm

From RAB: Girardi: Rivera ‘appears’ to have a torn ACL
What are the implications of that?

146 Boatzilla   ~  May 3, 2012 10:40 pm

On the bright side. It's a holiday in Japan and the sun is out after 4 straight days of pissing rain. Think, I'll go for a run and clear my head.

147 Boatzilla   ~  May 3, 2012 10:41 pm

[145] He's done for the year.

148 Bruce Markusen   ~  May 3, 2012 10:44 pm

Can the Yankees catch a break when it comes to their pitching? First Chamberlain, then Pineda, and now Rivera.

Are you kidding me?

149 Boatzilla   ~  May 3, 2012 10:46 pm

[145] Typical recovery time is 9 months.

150 OldYanksFan   ~  May 3, 2012 10:47 pm

So ends Mo's career?

151 Matt Blankman   ~  May 3, 2012 10:49 pm

This ain't 1965, but if that's the end of Mariano Rivera's career, what a colossal, cosmic bummer. Then again, it's better than watching him lose it.

Remember your cliches - this is a long season.

The Yankees are far from done, folks.

152 Simone   ~  May 3, 2012 10:51 pm

Bloody hell. A torn knee ligament. I really hope this is not how Mo's career ended.

153 RagingTartabull   ~  May 3, 2012 10:52 pm

Does this suck? Of course it does, shit it's probably the worst I've felt as a Yankee fan in over a decade.

But we've been on borrowed time with Mo for a looooong time. Would any of us. Be half as shocked if he walked off the mound clutching his elbow? It's not that he got hurt, it's the way it happened.

Good teams find a way, and I don't doubt this one will too. The hurt is because we're watching a chapter of our lives as fans end. But that doesn't mean we're watching a season end.

154 randym77   ~  May 3, 2012 11:00 pm

Terrible news. I just hate to see his career end this way

155 Mattpat11   ~  May 3, 2012 11:03 pm

This is the worst thing to happen to the Yankees franchise in my lifetime.

156 OldYanksFan   ~  May 3, 2012 11:13 pm

Short of some TV movie like miracle resurgence, this could be the death blow for this year. Jeter is playing so fucking well. What a shame he has no team behind him.

157 randym77   ~  May 3, 2012 11:28 pm

This is awful. He's crying, because he let the team down.

158 OldYanksFan   ~  May 3, 2012 11:35 pm

[157] Is there video I am missing?

159 randym77   ~  May 3, 2012 11:37 pm

[158] I was watching the post-game show on YES.

160 jjmerlock   ~  May 3, 2012 11:44 pm

I blame my stupid idiotic fucking self. I have a Cubs t-shirt that I avoid wearing on most days because I believe it is cursed. I wore it today. Last night's hockey game took most of the starch out of me. The stupid fucking piece of shit cubbies t-shirt was clean. The Yanks were in Kansas City and I gave up on the Knicks the moment they had the utterly shit luck of finishing ahead of Philadelphia.

What could go wrong? EVERY FUCKING THING.

I really hope this is not the end. If there is any chance that Mo wants to go out with one good run - which was really what was keeping me worked up about this season at all (him getting the chance to do just that) - I've been feeling for some time now that next year looked like a better "last run" year than this one. A pitcher or two may finally be ready, maybe Cashman/someone else can construct a better squad than he did this time around - maybe Hal can realize that bad product = your equation is fucked, etc.

If this is the end, though, I guaran-fucking-tee you that this stupid piece of shit shirt is getting burned.

Please let this not be the end.

161 Chris in Sydney   ~  May 3, 2012 11:52 pm

So the world really does end this year.

162 jjmerlock   ~  May 3, 2012 11:58 pm

I just refuse to accept this is the end. I refuse.

Beyond any athlete I've ever rooted for, he's surely earned it if this is it, but something as great as his career - it shouldn't end like this.

I say Jeter convinces him to make one last run next year.

A man whose every action has been the definition of grace for almost twenty years ending his career in a twisted, awkward heap? Fuck that.

I refuse to join with the premature sackcloth wearers who insist on proclaiming this the end. At least until I hear the man himself say it. And I'm hoping he decides the other way.

163 monkeypants   ~  May 4, 2012 1:03 am

I know that I'm in the vast minority on this, but Rivera's injury has not bothered me so much. To be sure it's a blow from a baseball perspective, and also from a personal and emotional perspective (who ever wants to see such a graceful athlete, dominant at his position, whose career spans a generation of fans, end his career, especially on a sour note). That said, maybe because I believe that the closer position is vastly overrated, I am not convinced this injury will impact the team as negatively as the loss of a starter at another position. At least the team has a few viable replacements for the back end of the bullpen, unlike they do for, say, the OF or C. Plus, as someone posted here or maybe on RAB, we've been watching Mo on borrowed time. The guy is 42 and was going to hang them up this year or next in any case. This day was coming soon, in one form or another.

164 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  May 4, 2012 4:50 am

[163] C'mon man..this is Mariano we're talking about. Who can think logically about this guy, at this point? I'm crushed..

165 monkeypants   ~  May 4, 2012 5:40 am

[164] To be honest, I can. But in truth I think that is because I have never been all that into Mo, at least compared to many devotees who frequent this site. And again, that probably has much to do with my own strong feelings (and biases) about how pitchers are used, blah blah.

I know it makes me a heretic, though...

166 Mr OK Jazz Tokyo   ~  May 4, 2012 6:35 am

[165] Respectfully, yes. Close to a heretic (at the Banter, at least.)
Overrated? Mo in postseason: 8-1, 42svs, 0.70 ERA in 141IP. .174/.212/.227. This was vs. best comp under most pressure. (from Twitter, not fact checked.)

No one else comes even remotely close to Mo.

167 monkeypants   ~  May 4, 2012 9:06 am

[166] I never said he was overrated. But for whatever reason, he has never been my favorite Yankee, nor is the closer position one that I am particularly attached to (I just don't get excited about relievers, even the great ones), and (again for whatever reason/s) I am just not that emotionally traumatized about this as it appears other here are. That's all I'm saying.

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