[1] And it means very little if anything if Loria refuses to build a decent team around him. How do you justify giving your one guy that kind of money and no one else a penny of market value if they are even comparable or complimentary? Loria is setting the market; let's see if he's willing to play the rest of the game.
[2] I think Mike Axisa over at RAB had a great point on this - it almost makes it easier for the Yanks to acquire Stanton some day if Loria won't keep paying to keep a good team around Stanton. Only so many teams can absorb that kind of cash layout for that many years.
[3] That is a good point as the current business operates, however how long will the Marlins stay in business with that model? Maybe by the time that option comes up, the circumstances have changed so that the Marlins have new ownership that would be committed to keeping him regardless of his production, or they maybe they are contracted and Stanton's contract is sold to the highest bidder (which may or may not be the Yanks, also depending on whether they still have commitments to their highest-paid current players)... that's more of a big question mark than a hope, never mind a plan. And whatsay that Stanton falls off by that point? The Marlins are certainly stuck with him, much like the Yanks are with A-Rod now. They have to build a team around him or they could more likely go belly-up than hoping the Yanks are interested in picking him up.
I mean, just the other day I kind of did a double take in reading that we're still saddled with Alex for THREE MORE SEASONS!
He's been around so long and he's been deteriorating for so long that I figured he must be nearly out the door.
Imagine having a player who's clearly entered a decline period being signed for SIX MORE YEARS beyond the point where his value has declined precipitously.
[9] Cashman seems to hope you're right, and I agree with the sentiment. Anything can happen with most things being equal by that time. Hopefully Mark Newman's successor can have a more effective impact from the bottom up.
And it's even easier when you have savvy and sound talent evaluators and developers, not to mention higher draft position. The former is arguable, the latter not so much.
AAV of $25 million isn't so bad. But 13 years? It's almost guaranteed he's going to lose one year to injuries.
[1] And it means very little if anything if Loria refuses to build a decent team around him. How do you justify giving your one guy that kind of money and no one else a penny of market value if they are even comparable or complimentary? Loria is setting the market; let's see if he's willing to play the rest of the game.
[2] I think Mike Axisa over at RAB had a great point on this - it almost makes it easier for the Yanks to acquire Stanton some day if Loria won't keep paying to keep a good team around Stanton. Only so many teams can absorb that kind of cash layout for that many years.
[3] That is a good point as the current business operates, however how long will the Marlins stay in business with that model? Maybe by the time that option comes up, the circumstances have changed so that the Marlins have new ownership that would be committed to keeping him regardless of his production, or they maybe they are contracted and Stanton's contract is sold to the highest bidder (which may or may not be the Yanks, also depending on whether they still have commitments to their highest-paid current players)... that's more of a big question mark than a hope, never mind a plan. And whatsay that Stanton falls off by that point? The Marlins are certainly stuck with him, much like the Yanks are with A-Rod now. They have to build a team around him or they could more likely go belly-up than hoping the Yanks are interested in picking him up.
I'm sorry, but 13 years is batshit fucking crazy.
Wow.
I mean, just the other day I kind of did a double take in reading that we're still saddled with Alex for THREE MORE SEASONS!
He's been around so long and he's been deteriorating for so long that I figured he must be nearly out the door.
Imagine having a player who's clearly entered a decline period being signed for SIX MORE YEARS beyond the point where his value has declined precipitously.
That contract is fucking *insane*!!!
Holy shite!
[4] The Yanks are not the bailout on this. Remember Alex. Aaron Judge will be our lower case Stanton.
Maybe not so insane.. http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/11/17/done-deal-giancarlo-stanton-and-the-marlins-agree-on-the-biggest-contract-in-baseball-history/
He'll likely opt out and/or Fish will trade him. With profits so high most teams can afford him, and Stanton is a special talent.
[9] Cashman seems to hope you're right, and I agree with the sentiment. Anything can happen with most things being equal by that time. Hopefully Mark Newman's successor can have a more effective impact from the bottom up.
Chyll, when you don't give up your early round picks to sign free agents it is much easier to build a farm system.
And it's even easier when you have savvy and sound talent evaluators and developers, not to mention higher draft position. The former is arguable, the latter not so much.