There are too many good young arms in this organization to continue running that out there. I like CC and I think he's a great leader, but you're not going to win a pennant like this. I know the run support is low and he has had some bad luck, but none of that changes the fact that he has become eminently hittable (for years now).
I agree that CC has lost it. Can't beat father time, and if I am not mistaken, he's among the leaders in innings pitched for actives. Lots of wear. Thought the weight loss would help (didn't) and that he would bounce back successfully from the bad knee (hasn't) and that he could make the change from a fireballer to a pitcher (can't..it seems).
I know that I have had problems with my own weight and I am far from athletic, but I don't understand CC's reasoning.
Last year he was probably at the lightest weight ever to start a season, and although the results were not what he wanted, going back to overweight was probably not a good idea. And maybe a bit of a copout. I am sure keeping the weight off was harder than gaining it back. That extra weight can't be good for his knees.
I was surprised by his comments yesterday too. "Carrera killed me today," Sabathia said. "It's just so frustrating to give up a two-run single to a lefty 9-hole hitter." - That is pretty F'd up as even the #9 hitter is a major leaguer.
CC is a great guy who, like many Yanks, got a contract that was meant to blow away the competition. We as fans are always saying, X is not worth that kind of money. The win now mentality causes the Yanks to go over what these players future salaries should be, and we are not surprisingly left with athletes who are mere shells of themselves. Or in CC's case a bloated shell.
I hope he learns to work within his diminished skills and just getting off the shnied (like Buehrle did against the Yanks) is a first step. This string of losses has to gurt his confidence, and all pros go through it. He should talk to Pettite, Cone and other Yanks who reinvented themselves with less velocity. Right now he is at the low point and he can either wallow or climb out.
I don't know if it is the weight. Mickey Lolich was fat, so was Rick Rueschel and David Wells and they did fine even as older pitchers. Maybe his weight is a problem, given his knee, but I'm not sold on that.
[3] "The win now mentality causes the Yanks to go over what these players future salaries should be, and we are not surprisingly left with athletes who are mere shells of themselves."
Indeed. I call it Veteran Worship Syndrome. It defined the Big Stein Era and continues to infect the organization.
There are too many good young arms in this organization to continue running that out there. I like CC and I think he's a great leader, but you're not going to win a pennant like this. I know the run support is low and he has had some bad luck, but none of that changes the fact that he has become eminently hittable (for years now).
I agree that CC has lost it. Can't beat father time, and if I am not mistaken, he's among the leaders in innings pitched for actives. Lots of wear. Thought the weight loss would help (didn't) and that he would bounce back successfully from the bad knee (hasn't) and that he could make the change from a fireballer to a pitcher (can't..it seems).
I know that I have had problems with my own weight and I am far from athletic, but I don't understand CC's reasoning.
Last year he was probably at the lightest weight ever to start a season, and although the results were not what he wanted, going back to overweight was probably not a good idea. And maybe a bit of a copout. I am sure keeping the weight off was harder than gaining it back. That extra weight can't be good for his knees.
I was surprised by his comments yesterday too. "Carrera killed me today," Sabathia said. "It's just so frustrating to give up a two-run single to a lefty 9-hole hitter." - That is pretty F'd up as even the #9 hitter is a major leaguer.
CC is a great guy who, like many Yanks, got a contract that was meant to blow away the competition. We as fans are always saying, X is not worth that kind of money. The win now mentality causes the Yanks to go over what these players future salaries should be, and we are not surprisingly left with athletes who are mere shells of themselves. Or in CC's case a bloated shell.
I hope he learns to work within his diminished skills and just getting off the shnied (like Buehrle did against the Yanks) is a first step. This string of losses has to gurt his confidence, and all pros go through it. He should talk to Pettite, Cone and other Yanks who reinvented themselves with less velocity. Right now he is at the low point and he can either wallow or climb out.
I don't know if the NYC crowd gets tired of The Empire State Building but I saw this today and thought that some Banter people might appreciate it.
http://mashable.com/2015/03/07/empire-state-building-vertigo/?utm_cid=lf-toc
I don't know if it is the weight. Mickey Lolich was fat, so was Rick Rueschel and David Wells and they did fine even as older pitchers. Maybe his weight is a problem, given his knee, but I'm not sold on that.
[3] "The win now mentality causes the Yanks to go over what these players future salaries should be, and we are not surprisingly left with athletes who are mere shells of themselves."
Indeed. I call it Veteran Worship Syndrome. It defined the Big Stein Era and continues to infect the organization.
Beltran looks done too.