Roy Halladay will face the Yanks today (George Steinbrenner’s birthday) and looks to put a damper on the holiday festivities in the Bronx. It will be a tall task to beat him but stranger things have happened. It’s sunny and beauty-ful in New York.
Let’s Go Yan-Kees!
Happy Birthday George and America!
He's 79 today and we're 233!
: )
funny, we don't look a day over 186.
Win one for George.
Yesterday, got to watch a Yankee win, saw the Mudhens win and fireworks. Also the start of a 3 day weekend & payday.
Here's hoping the good news keeps coming. Off to watch a 19th century style ball game, Happy Fourth of July everyone!
Have fun RBJ! Throw a spitball for me!
: )
C'mon CMW!
Wow @ current Yankees "sharing" Lou Gherig's speech today!
Wow!
Doing the Patriotic hat thing again, I see.
I don't mind the special logo, but does the hat have to be red?
I get to listen to WCBS, but at least I get the Yankees game in some form!
: )
My FOX Saturday Game today is Dodgers at Padres.
I'm going to be sick...
Woohoo DP!
classic Wang DP!
Wang's ERA at a sterling 9.80!
I guess that's why it has to be red. So they can make the canucks wear it, too, and claim it's for Canada Day.
nice work, johnny. i'd like him to steal, if his legs are "under him." let's be aggressive early, try and wear halladay down.
Woohoo A-Rod!
[12] woo hoo!
and nice hit and run...
yeah, A-Rod!!!!
Yanks take the early lead! : )
woo hoo A-Rod! hehe. i'm behind y'all
i'd still rather see Posada in the 5-hole, instead of Robbie...
[19] he'd be better. I really want to see him stick there and turn his RISP numbers around. I know it wouldn't be the popular move but it could be crucial down the stretch if he can build some RISP confidence.
is Wang being helped by the ump on those 2 strike calls? they look a bit outside on gamecast...
throw strikes, please.
[20] i hear ya, man. i thought of that, too. but it's really tempting to put Jorgie behind A-Rod. Posada Rocks!!!
dammit, lost him...
Holy crap. Bad luck.
ugh. and the start looked so promising. : /
Bah! 2-1
and there it is. we're losing. awesome. : /
Gets out of it with a DP.
Man, that was really just bad luck.
at least he got another DP.
let's see if we can actually score more off Doc...
[28] was it on the ground rule double? obviously, i can't see the game. i have braves-nats, cubs-brew crew here...
He isn't pitching bad. Some real tough breaks there. And the walk was obviously bad.
I hope they got their "Hats for Bats" working today, even if they are red!
: )
[30] that was good hitting. not bad pitching though. Just one of those shallow right field low flies that landed fair.
Vagitek goes deep, Sox up 2-nil. he's got 12 so far, guess he's not finished after all...
[30] The ground rule double looked like it was going to be foul, but ended up bouncing on the line. Literally - the chalk flew up when it hit.
The 2-RBI single was a grounder that bounced over Wang, just out of his reach.
And Godzilla ties it up.
Kaboom. Take that, Doc!
Po's hand is still swollen, yet he insisted he could play today...
Source: Suzyn Waldman
: /
Woohoo Matsui!
: )
[34] Vagitek. Cervix. What is it with catchers and female reproductive parts?
Wait, wasn't this a Seinfeld bit?
MATSUI-SAN!!!
tie game : )
MATSUI!!!!
seamus & randy = thanks for the 411 on the double, etc.!
[39] No... MLB players have been "pussies" for years now...
: )
[39] Mulva? Deloris? : D
[39] the g/f whose name he forgot? rhymed with something...
wow, gardner looked totally outmatched.
Wang should be more comfy now - his ERA is back into the 10's... : ~
[43] Twat Nixon.
From Petey:
Matsui is 5 of his last 10 with four RBI and four extras. He has three careers dingers against Halladay.
[48] heh heh
Exactly!
[48] hahahaha
[49] matsui happy to be done with interleague i see. I wonder how much that rest helped him.
Great catch, Melk.
Woohoo Melky!
nice play by melky!
34 pitches thru 3 for CMW
9.76 ERA
nice quick inning!
[51] Unknown... they really haven't said much in terms of the swelling of his knees and/or draining them in recent weeks...
[55] I was just gonna point that out.
Man, thelarmis, you are up very late on this Friday night, huh?
[43] Rusty Kuntz.
(worst baseball never EVER! worse even than Dick Pole or Peter Schmuck)
Man, just missed it. Shite.
You can stop that now Vernon!
: )
So, with the catchers', uh, femininity, and with pitchers, well, you know: BJ Ryan, Big Unit, Randy Johnson, Wang, Putz, etc.
Freud would love the current state of baseball. "Receivers", he would say, "Yes, I see..."
[58] yes! it's brutal. for some ungodly reason, i woke up EARLY!!! like, before noon. (i must've slept too late yesterday.) i'm terribly upset about this travesty and i smell a nap later on. gotta rest up for beer! : )
wow, Johnny puts the fear of God in Doc.
[62] My 5 year old nephew recently spent time on a nude beach. Don't ask. But he noticed that the woman had what looked like what? Hint: He's in the Yanks booth. lol.
[62] nice!
yeah, Tex!
do it again, A-Rod!!!
oh christ.
that sucked.
Tex!!
Robbie - pretend no one is on base!!!
cone is wacky huh?
M's got 1 back, cut the defecit in half. 2-1.
Opportunity blown. : ( Cano, C'mon Just fucking once!!
Who is this team that's getting a few hits of Cy Halladay?
[62] Not to mention prevalent baseball jargon involving balls inside, outside, high and low, "good wood," "two-hole," "five-hole," "cleanup," "the squeeze play," etc, including of course considering Wang's start today... the "DP!"
: )
bollocks. total wasted opportunity. that one's on Alex. we should be up 3-2...
[74] yeah, "up & in", "diving headfirst into home". there's lots of 'em...
To pick up the conversation I was having the other day. It always seems that Robbie hits a groundball just to the left of the 2b bag with runners on. or he pulls it to first.
Ofer last 17 with RISP for Cano. b double o.
I hope Wang goes deep.
Yikes. Once Freud is on your brain, baseball is just a sexual cesspool.
I'd realy like to see Wang prevent Rolen from scoring this frame...
Woohoo!
yeah, Wang!
44 pitches thru 4.
9.52
Riding the pine.
44 through 4 innings!
Wang is making a game of this one, for sure. I rate this game a toss-up (and not just because of the score).
wang looks good. and no this comment has nothing to do with y'alls side conversation.
Yay Po!
[85] yeah, i was about to say that about young Tommy Hanson, who's throwing nicely for the Bravos today, but was worried about the connotation! : ~
like i said before:
Posada ROCKS!!!
Holy Smokes. Posada crushed that one.
Chalk one up for the receivers!
Roy is just off today, huh? Break for us.
HIP HIP!
[92] i tried to start that chant here in Atlanta, during the last game. didn't work. : (
someone needs to tell Kay that people have been able to watch games on their computer for years.
[93] bummer, that'd be so cool!
Happy "America, FUCK YEAH!" Day, everybody!
Good to wake up and see us up 3-2.
25 consecutive scoreless innings for young Tommy Hanson. he's fun to watch.
Nice to see CMW pitching well today.
55 through 5 (let's see if I've beat thelarmis on this one).
GREAT inning Wang!
55 thru 5
9.29
[99] damn you! i'm not on proper rest, this isn't fair.
(rest of this game thread is under protest!)
another great inning for Wang!
[99] but thelarmis got the ERA in. you just cheated.
[103] yes, i provided more 411 !!! : )
Damnit. Jeter's all over Doc and nothing to show for it. Yet.
[105] yeah unreal.
[103] I hate you.
Who appointed you umpire?
isn't Damon supposed to walk?
[107] i did, of course! ; )
[107] It's in the official rulebook.
[108] i was thinking the same thing. Doc must have been confused over who the batter was.
Alright, Cano. Please don't make me scare the dog.
Alex is the "walkin' dude"!
FUCK YOU Cano.
Sigh. 0-18.
who'd rather see Posada at the plate now?
(entire Banter collectively raises hands...)
Dear Joey Joe Joe
Hitting weak, shitty grounders on the 1st pitch isn't "bad luck", it's lousy hitting.
Thanks
Everybody
nice, just opened facebook for kicks and an old friend has a pick of her kid at today's game.
Branyan having a long AB, man on 3rd, 1out. man on 1st, too...
Lead off doubles with a one run lead are unacceptable!
Robbie hits a ground ball every stinking time.
not a good start to the inning, Wang...
and on the 11th pitch...
branyan ties the game at 2. he's got both ribbies...
perfect worm killer there!
[121] I'm convinced that ducks on ponds played a traumatic role in Cano's youth...
Shit!
Dammit. Come on, Tiger.
no es bueno, wango.
fuckin' hell. and there it goes.
we're losing. crap crap shit crap. : /
Holy shit! I open up Ganecast just in time to see us lose the lead. My fault!
wow.
huh.
bullpen.
crazy.
Uh-oh.
At leasr Seattle ties up Boston 2-2.
did Wang just throw 1 pitch after the homer?
is he hurt?
ugh.
Wang is apparently hurt. The trainer came running out, and next thing you know, Wang's leaving with him, and they're signaling to the bullpen.
I didn't see anything wrong with Wang, but obviously, something is.
What happened? Girardi yanks Wang? (oops)
I am close to jumping off the Wang bandwagon...he still hasn't come close to maintaining his velocity, which was the whole basis for his success.
Meanwhile, Girardi has put his stamp on this game with his stubborn refusal to accept reality and move Cano out of the 5th slot. His three futile ABs have allowed Halladay to keep control of the game. You can't really blame Cano for his shortcoming, but you can definitely blame Girardi for his incompetence.
I HATE Saturday afternoon games. Why isn't Fox showing this?
[135] oy.
David Robertson in to keep Wang's ERA at 9.64
[137] The problem is that Girardi is satan. And let's face it, I don't like satan.
Whatever happened, it was sudden and unexpected. Posada was the one who noticed something was wrong. He ran out to the mound. Girardi and the training came running out, too. And there was no argument, no nothing. They signaled to the pen shortly after they got to the mound, and Wang left.
[140] i quite like Satan.
(not girardi, but satan himself. cool dude. we're tight!)
i love it when relievers come in and promptly walk the first batter they face. really puts me at ease.
I'd imagine that Aceves isn't available. Also, if he wasn't being used as a one inning type guy, this would be the perfect spot for Hughes.
[142] jazz was the devil's music before metal showed up, so you got those bases covered ...
meanwhile, Robertson is not making me so happy.
With Halladay able to go at least 2 more innings, another run is pretty much the game.
[142] yeah, he gets a bad rap.
Yikes! 2 walks? Robertson can strike out every out, but he's no good if he walks guys. Oy,
Halladay has 79 pitches thru 5. We 2 decent innings, we should see the BP in the 8th and 9th.
[145] yes, i am all over Satan! if i knew how to fix cars, i'd be the Satanic Mechanic!
Hanson's scoreless streak is over.
The "slumping" Rios. This game of baseball drives me nuckin' futs.
bollocks.
I can live with the single, but 2 walks and a wild pitch really stinks.
Whew Gardy!
Gritner!
Gardner not turning his back to the plexiglas that time.
How good was Gardy's catch?
[157] Very good running catch, but one he should make.
[157] it was a speed catch. he got a good jump and blazed to it. so it was nice, but not spectacular in that it didn't require a somersault or backflip.
This is where Halladay will cut through the Yankees like a surgeon unless they really have some good ABs.
Sox get 1st and 3rd with NO outs, but fail to score. Still 2-2.
[161] championship teams don't fail to score with 1st and 3rd and no outs. Time to clean house!
It would really be nice if the Yankees can figure out a way to beat Halladay. I can't remember the last time they beat him.
BaBaBruney!
Well, at least that horrible mustache is gone.
Heh, Kay just called them the "Philthys"
That'll be $.25, please!
Using Bruney here is absurd. At most, he'll give you one inning, which then means you have to turn to Tomko. At worst, he'll do what we are seeing now.
wow ... that's amazing
Pujols with the bases loaded this year, 6 for 7, 4hrs, 20 RBI.
DAMN.
I watched Albert Pujols' bases loaded ab last night on the MLB network. They were down 3-0 and the talking heads were saying they should walk him b/c a grandslam was basically a foregone conclusion if he got a pitch to hit. He got one. He hit it out. Incredible.
pujols is a beast. My friend who is a Cards friend fears that the Yanks will sign him away from St Louis. But we don't have room for him really.
[166] Pujols hit a salami last night. I gotta say, I think it was managerial ineptitude. Putting in Weathers was nuts. Pujols was hitting .500 against Weathers. Baker had a groundball pitcher in the pen who would have been a much better choice with the bases loaded.
The funniest thing is that Baker said he didn't want to put Rhodes in because Pujols was 2 for 4 against him. So put in Weathers, who was 9 for 18.
Wang - Right shoulder strain...
Per WCBS
Poor Wanger. Come on down, Mr. Hughes.
Fucking awesome.
Woohoo Damon!
[171] poor us. He was looking like himself there. Efficient with pitch count too. That hurts.
the yankees need to get this guy in the house
A LITTLE SHOT OF JD!!!
DEMONIC!!!
I LOVE SATAN!!!
Jeterian swing is a great coin of phrase by Kay.
[176] oh wait, wrong website. i meant...
DA-MON-IC!!!
; )
hey nostralarmis, check out the link in [175]
Johnny D!!!!!
[174] Yeah. He's had shoulder problems in the past, so this is worrisome.
Hopefully he'll be okay. And they'll give him lots of time to rehab in AAA, rather than rushing him back. He did look good today, but he still didn't have the velocity he used to. I gotta wonder if this shoulder strain is partly due to rushing him back.
[178] HAHA! He should have walked Damon.
[181] could be. I'd like to have him for the stretch. At least we know that if he goes on DL he can do a full rehab stint this time. Problem is that Hughes hasn't gone more than an inning or two in weeks.
Like baging one's head against the wall.
Laughable. : (
just another "bad luck" at bat for Cano with runners on ...
I'm going to insist the Yankees put up wall paper with those little duckies all over Cano's apartment right away...
Given his return from injury, I wonder if the ultra-long top of the 6th, coupled with the long "God Bless America" kind of did Roy in...maybe Cito would have been wise to get him out after the 6th.
(yes, it feels good to second guess another team's manager!)
SCREW YOU KAY, THAT'S MY NICKNAME FOR THEM!
BASTARD.
damn you, Cano.
[179] i watched part of that Cult. really cool!
Adam Dunn hit his 300th homer.
So, here's Hughes. if Wang is out - and it sounds like he will be - will Phil be our starter 5 days from now? if so, he should throw the next 2 innings right now...
hey look, it's teh 8th11!!1!!!
must be time for Hughesy one inning of work ...
i've got this weird feeling we're going to be seeing teh Vulture on the mound to start the game in 5 days ...
[190] Well no doubt he'll get at least Wang's next start, so that's entirely possible, thelarmis...
: )
might as well pitch Phil for 2 innings here since he'll be starting in Wanger's slot next time.
I just hope they give Melancon a shot, as opposed to bringing back Edwar.
[189] i haven't called the Phitin's that, but i've called that city "Philthy" since the early 90's when i started at Penn State. "Philthadelphia" & "Shitsburgh" (sorry seamus!). and "Eerie". i got tons of these. did 'em for all over the country when i started touring after grad school...
Yay Hughes!
[190] [194] great minds think alike.
[194] wow, i completely forgot about Edwar.
you get that Ali Akbar CD i linked to you?
[194] What? No Josh Towers? (ducking) : )
yeah Phil!!!
Joe - you BEST send Hughes out next inning. NO excuses.
[195] "Philthadelphia" goes way back, even before Philly native Bill Cosby used in in his act decades ago...
[198] sorry to say but I have not yet. I will though. Also, I'm getting Harrison's concert for Bangladesh and Ali played on that along with Ravi Shankar.
[195] at least i don't live in the big shitty or Batlanta! actually batlanta sounds cool.
Edwar's not coming back up. Albaladejo's been lights out since going back down, I'm assuming he's 1st in line, then Melancon (who has struggled a bit this year).
well, I've just been informed that I have to go to Vance, Alabama to pick up a turtle. Oye-Vay...Let's go Yankees and Mariners!
See y'all later (even though I'd just arrived).
So... is Girardi still a moron for not giving Hughes more innings?
[203] "Hotlanta" however does not sound cool...
: )
[202] nice.
[203] yeah man, i like Bats, too! we had one that used to fly into the basement of our rehearsal house in State College. cool. (you must remember, i'm "vampire boy"!)
i guess "Batlanta" is better than "Mylanta"!!! eh eh eh...
[205] Pet "Cecil" for me!
: )
Mats with yet another XBH!!!
Can Ransom steal???
[208] I used to live in the woods. We'd turn on the lights in the house and we had these big windows and we'd watch the bats feed on the bugs that hung out on the windows. awesome stuff! I actually filed a lawsuit to protect some bats once. tree hugger that I am. :)
Nice Matsui!
[211] that kicks ass!
i think you'd get along with Satan just fine. you should give him a chance! ; )
Cano's going to win this one. Just sayin'....
well that sucked...
[213] As long as nobody gets on base in front of him, he might have a chance!
[213] if he does, can i take the credit? (shhh, don't tell Cult!)
I don't understand why Swisher wasn't used as a pinch hitter, but I really hope Girardi isn't going right to Mo.
[211] Being born on Halloween and all, I like bats, too...
While living in South Florida, we saw moths that were six inches long with eight inch wing spans! A feast for any bat...
: )
[212] You need a #81 Penguins jersey. Miroslav Satan.
Junior leads off the 9th with a BB. 2-2 at Fenway
holy fucking crap.
hughes is out?!?!?!?
WHY?!?!?!
Mo seems to be pitching a lot lately...
This game has been instructive. I'm a Wang fan, but I'm starting to tire of him. Just when he looks about to turn the corner (for the third or fourth time), he gets hurt again? We'll see if it's serious, but if it is, Wang is starting to give me an A-Rodian headache.
Also, I favor Melky over Gardner. Neither is great, but Girardi to this point has done a good job of going with the hot hand. However, they've helped in that they were passing the baton back and forth effectively. Right now, though, they both look pretty bad. Gardner looks terrible - again.
Incredible...Hughes and Mo are now likely unavailable tomorrow and if this game goes long the chances of Tomko being used has increased. This is very short sighted bullpen management.
[221] Instead of 100 innings this year, they've changed it to 100 pitches.
8 FUCKING PITCHES!!!!
girardi is a moron. hughes needs to get stretched out if he's starting in 5 days. this is ludicrous...
[221] WHY???
because Hughesy now pitches the 8th.
that's his INNING.
see, INNING.
Mo pitches the 9th.
Everybody gets put in a teeny, tiny box and that's how they gets used.
Girardi has made a handful of tactical errors in this game alone.
[219] what a great name!!!
Mo's already thrown 8 pitches - NO outs. how in the world can he take Hughes out...again?!
With our "luck," they will bring up Igawa to "spot start" for Wang...
: /
[225] I wonder if that means Hughes isn't starting.
christ almighty.
this is gonna suck...
[212] oh, sure, i'll hvae some beers with him and get to know him. :)
This has the feel of a Mo-tie game let down. He has also pitched a lot recently, so it would have been nice to get away with using him. Girardi just doesn't have any feel for managing a game.
I wish they'd acknowledge Rivera's tie game Achilles' heel and ... not bring him in here.
[225] he's not starting in 5 days.
he's the bridge to Mo, dontchaknow
best start getting used to it ...
[218] hell yeah. they love those huge moths.
[230] even so, he should have started the 9th. this is pure insanity!!!!
Rivera's cutter looks a little short. I think that has more to do with his workload than the tie game, but either way it really made no sense to use him in this inning when Hughes was perfectly capable of another inning.
[232] he likes Devil's Mountain Ale. man, i miss that beer...
Now you know Rivera's stuff is off today.
[239] You don't drink right?
i love the DP right there.
From Petey:
Mo in a tie game. Usually not a good thing. Kind of like Cano with men on base.
M's w/ the bases loaded. 1 out...
Whew!
Bases loaded, 1 out for Seattle
20 pitches for Mo that inning.
WHY did Joey Joe Joe take Hughes out?!?!?!?! : /
Seattle doesn't have anyone better than Chris Fucking Woodward to send to the plate?! yeesh.
woodward comes thru. 3-2. bases still juiced w/ 1 out...
cheap bloop to short right. Pedroia dive... grazes his glove but falls in. Seattle up 3-2.
woo hoo! Go Mariners!
[241] i drink like a fish! i don't smoke...
Devil Mountain Ale, was from Cali and was AMAZING!!! i think Miller bought them out in the late 90's, then discontinued it. pisses me off. they had some amazing brews...
i drink Sierra Nevada Pale Ale. it's been my mainstay for the last 10 years....
damn it cedeno
let's go Ichiro!!!
great AB, Jete!!!!
3-2 M's, headed to bottom of 9th...
[252] ok, i recall discussing sierra nevada pale ale with you now. I must have confused the not drinking with someone else.
[257] or maybe it's the fact i don't smoke and it threw ya off!
[257] i've got an awesome story about my grandpa coming to see me play live at the Wetlands. he told the "kids" behind the bar they couldn't make a good martini. they let him behind the bar to "show 'em how it was done." they loved him! i still do...
dammit Johnny. Jeter should steal...
Boston loses!
c'mon Tex.
you and Alex. let's win and not let it get to Robbie...
C'mon Alex!
I'd walk A-Rod if I were Toronto...
fuck! that looked like it almost went out...?
c'mon Alex. nice and easy, buddy.
Yep... no surprise there...
[263] yeah. good call.
someone here called Robbie before. Just Fair, maybe. whoever it was - I get the credit if he wins the game! ; )
[259] that is awesome! that place had a great atmosphere for that kind of stuff.
Steve McNair found shot to death...
Manny goes boom in the 1st...
[268] QB, right?
[269] Yes, the NFL QB...
[268] yikes. that's terrible.
[271] Apparent murder-suicide here in Nashville...
Bleh!
god fucking dammit, Robinson.
he's really pissing me off.
who's gonna throw the 10th?
i assume we'll see Swish bat 2nd next inning, instead of Ransom...
I really hope someone asks Girardi if Cano is still "his 5th slot guy". What a shame that the only way Girardi seems to admit his mistakes is after repeated failure.
[272] holy christ, that's awful.
yup, more "bad luck" there ...
damn, 94 for Cokey on that fastball ...
[275] Jeez... how many times does he have to repeat this one?
Bleh @ Po getting hit on that catching hand again?
Is he okay?
Yay Gardy!
GRITNER turns on the afterburners!
COKE!!!
8 pitches. i hope we win now, but if not in this frame, you HAVE to send Coke out for another inning...
The Sox got 4 hits today. Lowell is out, but they should still be hitting. But their O is beginning to sag. Youk has slowed a little, but is still awesome. JD about the same. Bay going down. Actually, Tek and Nick Green are doing damage. The Sox are vulnerable.
[279] I am not sure, but if you look at the Yankees production by slot in the batting order, it's hard not to pinpoint Cano batting 5th as the key reason why the Yankees offense is inefficient relative to their overall production.
Besides batting Cano 5th and not PHing for Gardner in the 8th, Girardi's bullpen management has the potential to be his worst error in this game if it goes extras and Tomko is summoned. Then, not only would they have lost today's game, but would be facing a Joba start with a rundown bullpen.
2nd cheer I've heard for Gardy. Anyone want to rate his 2 plays for me?
[282] btw, your nickname of "Gritner" is teh awesomeness! : )
did you happen to go see Vital Info at Catalina's???
[274] Or Hinske.
Great play by Gardner. Flashing the speed today in the field.
[283] Coke doesn't seem to handle that second inning as well as the first. I have a feeling we'll be seeing tomko is there is an 11th inning.
[286] both 8 out of 10s. Good plays, especially that second one. Mostly speed plays where instincts + speed got him to the ball.
[286] That was a great sliding catch only made possible by his speed. Unlike the first, that was more on the spectacular side.
[288] ah! forgot he was with us... : ~
The defensive metrics seem mixed on Gardy. I'd love to hear a discussion about his Defensive... see if we could grade him on a A-F scale.
oh, jorgie...
it's Swish...
[294] It actually looked like he broke back on that, so maybe it was a case of his speed making up for poor instincts, which is kind of how I view him in general.
Looks like Wally Bell has a BBQ to attend because he has gone from a hitters ump to a pitchers ump.
So.. one great catch and one spectacular catch? Sounds kinda awesome. Do we agree he is a full notch better then Melky on D in CF?
I'll laugh if this game goes past the FOX Blackout and we get to see it on YES!
Just what the Yankees need with no days off between now and the ASB, extras innings...
*sigh*
[298] I'd say one good and one made great by a poor initial step. No, he is not a full notch better than Melky, IMHO.
jesus christ. this is painful.
One out until Tomko time.
What a disgusting inning.
[302] noooooo! please no Tikki Tikki Tomko. i think he fell down a well !!! ; )
So lose 2 in a row, at Fenway, to Seattle! William... can I get a 'that's just unacceptable'?
This has the feel of a Mo-tie game let down. He has also pitched a lot recently, so it would have been nice to get away with using him. Girardi just doesn’t have any feel for managing a game.
So funny.
Fire Girardi!
bummer
SOX lose 2 in a row....
Cokey still in.
Burning Hughes for just 1 inning looking dumber and dumber ...
i really wish Alex didn't foul out to 1st w/ 1-out and a runner on 3rd earlier in the game...
Hughes should've thrown 2 innings...
Cokey still in!
Coke for a second inning is very dangerous, but made necessary by Girardi's awful managing. This game is quickly heading toward a loss simply because the Yankees are so poorly managed.
[309] get outta my brain! ; )
[311] still better than Tomko...
[305] King Felix pitched one of those games, so they are only on the hook for one.
...
[309] Absolutely. Girardi's complete lack of foresight has put the Yankees in this position. Coke hasn't been used for length is such a long time that you are basically crossing your fingers with him.
[313] no doubt about that ...
and there it is. walking the leadoff man.
Schteeve doesn't seem to be 'round these parts any longer, so i'll take care of the self-immolation bit and go light myself on fire. i happen to quite like fire (and satan).
wow, that mcnair news is obviously disturbing. the game is grating a bit too
[313] That's what I mean by "made necessary".
This game is quickly heading toward a loss simply because the Yankees are so poorly managed.
Riiiiiight. Five runs against Halladay and it's still the manager's fault because the bullpen hasn't given up a run in 4 2/3rds.
That makes sense.
[318] a fitting combo. and very July 4th of you.
[321] please don't start with all that. this game is rough enough...
[323] ditto
"I don't need no shades" that was awesome.
[321] the 'pen has been pretty darn good. i really wish they'd throw Hughes for 2 innings at a time. i wonder why Joe won't do that when the situation screams for it...
[325] Cone was channeling Treasure of the Sierra Madre.
Big steal by Wells.
[316] "Coke hasn’t been used for length is such a long time that you are basically crossing your fingers with him."
Coke pitched two innings on June 25th in Atlanta...
Great job by Cokey...now they'd better score because there is no way they'll send him out for a 3rd inning.
20 pitches, 2 innings. VERY nice work Cokey!
@ 323, 324
Yeah, I'm the problem. You guys never get sick of the Girardi nonsense irrespective of actual facts?
Coke for a second inning is very dangerous, but made necessary by Girardi’s awful managing.
Wrong again.
How many times can one guy look like a fool in one thread?
[332] i think it's more the one-sided attacking nature. it's just a bad vibe, that's all.
[329] But only twice all season.
So five scoreless innings from the bullpen?
Awful, awful managing.
Fire Girardi!
[332] i ignore it. it works. but you fuel it.
[333] every post you make attacking him, makes you look like that. it's tired. you know a TON about baseball. just post that singularly and we'll all be better off from it! : )
[334] Alex had a talk with him, so his time is running out. In the meantime, just keep ignoring.
ugh. not a good start there, Gritner.
[329] hey, i was there! : )
@ 334
And see, a bad vibe to me is bullshit being peddled regardless of the facts. To each their own, but I'd have nothing to say if the bullshit stopped.
[339] i usually do. perhaps i've been channeling Satan too much today! ; )
@ 339
More bullshit! No, Alex most certainly didn't.
No, you're just lying out of your ass, huh?
Fire Girardi!!111!!
[342] I wont embarrass him by sharing the details, but I've been assured that if he can't "behave" something will be done to remedy the problem.
Come on Damon...save us from Tomko time.
dammit, jetes.
c'mon johnny. one more Yankee Doodle Dandy!
@ 344
What a fucking liar you are. And now, you're supposedly sharing the details even as you say you're not?
Nope, never have gotten a talking to. But, you, you've actually had to have the moderators defend your annoying "right" to post.
damon sitting on 199 homers...
Uh oh...time for Tomko?
From Pedro:
Coke: one run on five hits in his last 15.2 innings with 16 Ks.
oy yuy yuy.
What, the manger can't rallying the troops!? Where's the Animal House speech?
Fire Girardi!
I don't want to overlook this game just yet (I guess Tomko can have a clean inning), but who is going to come out of the pen tomorrow? You'd have to think Hughes, Mo and Coke are all toast, which leaves Aceves and?
Yup, the manager's fault for using the last guy in the pen who doesn't even belong on the roster.
Fire Girardi.
Hopefully the shadows can help Tomko, who does have a pretty good fastball.
I have ZERO confidence in Tomko here.
here's tomko...
If I was Posada I would strictly feature the fastball for strikes. Tomko's off speed is really bad.
Share the "details", liar.
I've never, ever, ever gotten a "talking to" here. Because realize I'm right.
[335] If Coke can't face this lineup for two innings as well as he's pitched recently, "stepping it up" for the team when needed, considering he was a starter last year throwing more than 100 innings, then he's not really major league material, is he?
I hope you are kidding about Coke pitching a couple of innings here and there... really.
This guy is hardly a Marte type lefty after all.
[356] Glad you showed up...
chance of Tomko's giving up a jack in this inning?
Hey Bum Rush, cease and desist. Immediately. In point of fact, I sent you an e-mail last week about your behavior. I never heard back from you. I used the e-mail you have registered here. If you did not get it, let me know because I would like to have a private discussion.
[360] I agree with you about Coke, but that's not how he has been used. He has mostly been a one inning pitcher, who often is called on to get only 1 or 2 outs. It's tough to then ask him to give you two clean innings, but thankfully he was able to do it.
Lind is VERY dangerous here. I'd really like to see Tomko pitch around him here.
@ 356
Can you set the record straight about said "talking to".
Seeing as I never actually have gotten anything of the sort.
I know full well I step over the line at times. But the utter bullshit has no place. I'll defend that position until I'm banned. It's one thing to take an unpopular position. It's quite another to lie through your teeth while doing so.
struck him out! whaddya know. 1 more dude...
Pitching Coke two innings was Girardi's way of saying "Ah, shit, I shoulda gotten another inning out of Hughes"--two from Hughes would've been ideal, but at least Tomko was postponed....
Lind is the guy you worry about.
Yikes!
My goodness...talk about luck.
and ... EXHALE
@ 363
Nope, didn't get it. I don't check that email.
Go ahead and ban me. It's your loss. Especially when the alternative is that bullshit - day after day.
Brett Tomko! whoda thunk it.
alright "Bats" - awaken!!! there are Canadian moths on the field. have at 'em!!!
[368] As it worked out, we'd now be in Tomko time one way or the other, but it still would have made a ton of sense to have Hughes give you two innings, especially because he likely wont pitch tomorrow anyway.
Another scoreless inning from the pen.
Fire Girardi!
[368] and at least they have the same first name! maybe he got confused! : ~
366) Bum, William is not lying. I did contact you. Please shoot me your e-mail. Again, perhaps I used the wrong one but I did reach out to you this past week re: your comment behavior.
Regardless, let's just dead this antagonism between you and william for the day. It's a holiday and not the time for petty fighting.
Send me an e-mail (alexbelth@aol.com) and we'll handle this behind the scenes between ourselves. Thanks.
I love watching Teixeira huff and puff when he runs!
Will it come down to Cano again?
Yea Tex!
I love Teix.
uh oh, Cano.
oh, HELL YEAH!!!
take care of this yourself Alex.
do it....NOW!!!
ugh. Robbie, it's time. don't make an out!!!
Seems like the Jays have no fear of Cano. Does Girardi ask Cano to bunt? What would that do to his confidence?
Rob just has to bunt here. It's so obvious...
What is Cano thinking here? I wish I was in his head.
Oh, he has to bunt, William. I am Mr Bunt Hater, but this is a no-brainer.
[385] Cano isn't a great bunter...I don't know.
Okay, at 2-0 they could take the bunt off.
wow, 2 balls outta the chute...
I'll be damned. This strategy is sure working well! Not in the expected way.
whoa, wait. 3rd pitch is like right down broadway on gamecast. hmmm...
Send me an e-mail (alexbelth@aol.com) and we’ll handle this behind the scenes between ourselves.
Between "ourselves". When the lying sack of shit is the one revealing said email? So as not to "embarass" me?
Hahahhaha.
Sorry, man, we have nothing to talk about. If you're going to defend his right to post whatever bullshit he wants to peddle, then you're going to have to ban me. I've loved this community for too long to watch that go unchallenged. You and your co-writers do great work here. But the bullshit is exactly that.
What the????
[373] hehe. love the image of the Yankees actually being a bunch of bats feeding on the remnants of the jays. :D
WTF?
well, there's something you don't see every day ...
jesus christ. that fucking blows.
Man, Cano sucks
I wonder whose fault that was. It was unbelievably stupid.
Ok, I am sorry, but I don't want to hear Girardi blame Cano for this. This epic failure is squarely on the manager's shoulders. You have Cano batting 5th, but then don't trust him to hit. You also can't assume Cano is savy enough to take 3-0. This has to be communicated.
He must have missed the sign, right? Because Teix was running back toward second base.
[364] It has to do with his adjusting to beginning this season as a reliever first the first time in his career. Once he was prepared mentally and physically enough to throw from day to day, which he is at the moment by virtue of the consistent command he is enjoying now, he can go longer from time to time as needed, like today. He has said as much in post game interviews recently.
Thelarmis seeing him throw in person didn't hurt! : )
Extra innings are part of MLB. They'll get through it. It's just a shame it came this early during this 10-game stretch that not only includes a day off, but also a west coast road trip.
Hughes can go an inning or two if needed tomorrow to spell Coke and Mo, as can Aceves (more than one), Robertson, and Bruney.
Worse, it's the same exact fucking bullshit day after day, week after week, month after month. It's the same insanity, man!
Ah.
HIP HIP!!!!!
Woohoo Yankes!
Have a great rest of your July 4TH everyone!
: )
This is an incredible win because the Yankees really tried to give the game away. Way to go Po!!
JoPo!
Hip Hip!!!
High five, thelarmis!
(There should be an icon for that.)
HIP-HIP!!!
Move Robbie down or fire Girardi--somebody HAS to take the blame for that bunt.
Meanwhile--Yankees win!!!
Winning pitcher....Brett Tomko...exactly as it was planned!
[409] right *HERE* buddy! up high!!! : )
The whip cream pie is back!
Happy B-day, Boss George! The country, too!
Thanks, Jorgie. wish you were batting 5th...
WE WON!!!!
1 Game back!!! and at least a split in the series...
HIp HIP!!!!
[413] There you go...
and one down low *...
Hughes can go an inning or two if needed tomorrow to spell Coke and Mo
Actually, that's not clear. this is the first time Hughes has gone back-to-back, I'm pretty sure they'll want to avoid pitching him 3 days in a row.
[414] i can see Jorgie NOT acting too kindly to pie in the face. what was his reaction?
[402] yikes. that's just ridiculous. robbie's head is elsewhere. maybe the ASB will give him a good rest...
Aceves is available tomorrow.
Guys, Bum Rush just pushed my hand, I'm sorry to say. He didn't want to handle this rationally. He all but dared me to ban him. Whether he looks at the e-mail he registered with, I have sent him two e-mails (now I know why they were not returned) over the past few months regarding his behavior.
But his last few comments here were the last straw. I have removed ability to post.
We like arguments here but we have to remain a friendly bar. Bum Rush repeatedly pushed it over the line. His disputes with williamny23 became too personal.
This is only the second time we've had to ban a commentor and it's no fun. We valued Bum Rush's passion but cannot tolerate his behavior.
[421] Thank you.
[419] he was alright. But he definitely was trying to avoid it. Joba had to distract him big time.
Looks like Robbie's struggle with RISP have gotten deep into his head.
[421] Thanks Alex. I agreed with his criticisms but not the way he handled them. It was the right decision.
[421] there's no reason to apologize to us (or at least me), it needed to happen.
[421] That's cool, Alex. Everyone was pretty tolerant of him (esp. William who most definitely took the high road), but I don't think anyone's going to miss the dude.
[423] Yeah, they kind of double teamed Jorge with pies. Cool.
[421] thanking you.
the other was Rob Gee...right?
Manny:
It was Ramirez's seventh of the season and 534th of his career, tying Jimmie Foxx for 16th on the all-time list. Up next is Mickey Mantle with 536.
Yes, Rob Gee, that's right.
Anyhow, hope everyone has a good holiday, grillin or being with family.
Good win!
[430] you too Alex. At least we know you'll be in a good mood after the win. And I hope everyone else here is too. Enjoy the day folks! :)
I heard the end of the game on XM and I'm posting on my phone.
I'm damn glad we won but what kind of strategy was that bunting Cano in a 3-0 count with two on and nobody out? Even John Sterling recognized that as a horseshit play.
And THAT is why I'm disenchanted with Girardi as the manager.
Maybe the Yanks can win it all despite that kind of bad move, after all Barry Switzer won a super bowl because of the talent of the '95 Cowboys, but I don't like it.
And if Wang is going to miss a start, and that seems apparent even if the injury is nothing, why not get Phil 2 innings there (since he'll get the next 4 games off anyway)?
Girardi says they'll discuss what to do about a starter tonight. He said neither Hughes nor Aceves is in a position to start.
Wang has a shoulder strain and bursitis, and will need rest.
[421] I am sorry it had to come to that, and the irony is probably if I didn't ignore him he would have spread the "wealth", but it's probably for the best, not only for the Banter, but for Bum. Instead of being so obsessed with me, maybe he can now find a place to offer a worthwhile contribution. Hopefully, this has been a lesson learned.
Banning is generally a miserable thing to have to do, but when someone dares you, and screams 'your loss' and keeps violating, among other things, a posted rules of order that includes language ... he changes the room too much.
Also, just to go on the record here, I posted a few days back asking Alex or Cliff to look into this after an ugly game thread (with a WIN, yet) and Alex REPLIED with a post that he'd emailed Bum Rush ... so that had zero to do with william 'revealing' anything. It was made public, and Bum Rush, who reads these threads would have seen that, even if he denied getting the email. His screaming 'liar' and 'bullshit' on that one really do cross all kinds of lines.
But leave that. He's banned, and I regret it had to happen but am not sorry it did. I tend to think the Boo Girardi then Boo Cashman are BOTH overused here, but that's me.
On a more cheerful note, MUCH more cheerful, we won, Sox lost, Cano lives to line drive another day. I'll be interested to know if the bunt was taken off on 3-0.
AND I have a nickname to propose! I HOPE no one has come up with this because I like it so much, in an age of lousy nicknames.
Ready, Banterers, I propose:
The Sultan of Bruney!
Accepting cheers and applause and pouring cyberdrinks at Bronx Banter.
Has anyone heard a report that says the bunt was really on? If the bunt was on, then yes, it's stupid. Very stupid. And why was Teixeira moving in the wrong direction when Cano laid down the bunt?? The bunt wasn't bad -- it wasn't great, but it certainly wasn't bad -- but Teix had no chance because he got an anti-jump.
My bet is that Rob missed the sign. The bunt was off. That's why Teix wasn't in on it.
[433] I wouldn't be completely against a stopgap measure for one start. With the ASB coming up, the Yankees have some time to figure out the long-term solution. I don't think 3 innings from Hughes or Aceves is the best answer.
[432] Given Girardi's reaction, I am pretty sure Cano did that on his own.
[436] Girardi said Cano "misunderstood" what was asked. You know I feel about that response.
[439] i commend you for taking the high road with the Bum situation. that whole thing was a "bummer" (eh eh eh!). i, for one, am glad it's done. Thanks, Alex!
1 Game back, people!
Waldman said that Mitre seemed likely for the start ...
Yeah I'm sorry it had to come to that with Bum Rush. I gave him a wide berth after our exchange the other night.
There's a guy at the Alabama football tailgate that I know that everyone calls "angry guy" (mainly cause he gets drunk and screams at people; last year he screamed at my kid). Bum seemed like an online version of Angry Guy.
[441] so did Petey...
[441] was just going to say that Pete Abe says the same thing. I know nothing about Mitre except that he has been not very good in a few short stints in the majors. ANy thoughts?
Why wouldn't they let Phil pitch? Is this because of phils inning limit or the fact that he's been relieving for awhile and might need to be stretched out?
Mitre. Meh! Isn't there anyone else who could pitch? What about the ghost of Kei igawawful?
[445] he isn't stretched out. Upon reflection that seems like the right decision. Especially since Wang should be back.
[445] The latter -- must be stretched out. He's only thrown 49 innings so far, so there's no way he's going to hit the limit this year. No way. In fact, a lot of us are annoyed at the way he's being used now because at this rate his inning count this year will be so low he will be on the same limit again next year. What a freaking waste.
I honestly think that right this moment they should be working out how Hughes will be the fifth starter for the rest of the season. Okay, spot start from Mire, whatever. But he should be put back on the path to being a starter.
And quick, before "He's the Yankees answer to the burning 8th inning question!" meme gathers too much momentum...
[447] I agree with you. Rest Phil until the spot comes up again and have him start and pitch 2 or 3 innings and then use Mitre or Aceves. Then let him go 3 innings the next time around, then 4-5 innings and so on. Maybe I'm too ambitious on the stretch out though.